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Re: SKG Jukebox Update. Limited Beta Test
« Reply #80 on: November 07, 2010, 02:09:29 am »
ok i want to retag the compilation albums , what i want to do is a batch tag , i want to tag the artist as various artists or compilations , then the variousl artists will show as the artist name and the correct name for the album will show under it  then track artist title

so it will be

various artists \ album name \ track number title artist

i have media monkey and mp3 tag how can i batch tag all songs to have various artists as the artist name?

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Re: SKG Jukebox Update. Limited Beta Test
« Reply #81 on: November 07, 2010, 02:15:01 am »
I have mine organised like this:

\compilations\Album\Track - Artist - Title

for example:

\compilations\100 Greatest Rock Songs of the 90s\001 - Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit

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Re: SKG Jukebox Update. Limited Beta Test
« Reply #82 on: November 07, 2010, 06:02:51 am »
 ;D and name them small letter so that various artists are all after z and before a
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Re: SKG Jukebox Update. Limited Beta Test
« Reply #83 on: November 07, 2010, 07:22:36 am »
;D and name them small letter so that various artists are all after z and before a

but if i put them all in a folder called various artists will skgjuke call them that or what the album is tagged

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Re: SKG Jukebox Update. Limited Beta Test
« Reply #84 on: November 07, 2010, 12:37:33 pm »
but if i put them all in a folder called various artists will skgjuke call them that or what the album is tagged

I'm pretty sure that skepticalgeek has said the software gets the names from the folders and file names, which would mean that the tags are irrelevant.
(too lazy to read back through his posts, but feel free)

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Re: SKG Jukebox Update. Limited Beta Test
« Reply #85 on: November 07, 2010, 03:11:28 pm »
but if i put them all in a folder called various artists will skgjuke call them that or what the album is tagged

I'm pretty sure that skepticalgeek has said the software gets the names from the folders and file names, which would mean that the tags are irrelevant.
(too lazy to read back through his posts, but feel free)


Yeah SKG doesn't use tags.

I've got a trial version of Dr. Tag where you can configure it to restructure your music anyway you want but being trial it only allows 50 file saves then you have exit Dr Tag and start again, pain in the ass if you have a whole lot of music to do.

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Re: SKG Jukebox Update. Limited Beta Test
« Reply #86 on: November 07, 2010, 04:10:49 pm »


I've got a trial version of Dr. Tag where you can configure it to restructure your music anyway you want but being trial it only allows 50 file saves then you have exit Dr Tag and start again, pain in the ass if you have a whole lot of music to do.
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Re: SKG Jukebox Update. Limited Beta Test
« Reply #87 on: November 07, 2010, 06:27:28 pm »
skg - i just loaded heaps of albums all work fine except the J section ,  i can scroll four albums then error comes up and skg closes??
ill test it out again when new update available

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Re: SKG Jukebox Update. Limited Beta Test
« Reply #88 on: November 07, 2010, 09:50:57 pm »
Guys, I just finished a new update, 0.72 Second Beta. There are several fixes and new features.

    Up/Down arrow keys no correspond to volume up/down.
    Ctrl -M minimizes the window.
    Adding tracks to playlist is much faster and more responsive.
    New Move to Top button in Track List form
    Holding down left/right arrow keys keeps panels scrolling continuously. Scrolling is also smoother. Though it can still slow down somewhat if album art files are large. When SKG Jukebox loads the next panel of albums, it scales the artwork to fit the panel. This can be very processor intensive, especially for large art files. Album art between 500 and 1000 pixels per side works bes and still looks good.
    Can now map a Custom List or Playlist to a single keystroke. Can also map 2 different keystrokes to a Playlist, one for playing it in normal order, and another one for random order.
    New configuration option for large collections, that is larger than 1000 albums. If using this option, album numbers will be 4 digits instead of 3, and the Options screen is accessed by pressing "0000" instead of "000".
    New configuration option, Connected, specifying whether jukebox is connected to Internet. By default this is set to True. Setting it to False will disable features such as album art downloading and CD ripping.
    Track numbers now appear on the screen, even if they are not part of the file name.
    Assorted bug fixes and performance tweaks.


ego, is there something odd or out of place with the albums that are supposed to be downloaded next?
I'll e-mail all of you with the new download link.


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Re: SKG Jukebox Update. Limited Beta Test
« Reply #89 on: November 07, 2010, 11:11:47 pm »
Guys, I just finished a new update, 0.72 Second Beta. There are several fixes and new features.

    Up/Down arrow keys no correspond to volume up/down.
    Ctrl -M minimizes the window.
    Adding tracks to playlist is much faster and more responsive.
    New Move to Top button in Track List form
    Holding down left/right arrow keys keeps panels scrolling continuously. Scrolling is also smoother. Though it can still slow down somewhat if album art files are large. When SKG Jukebox loads the next panel of albums, it scales the artwork to fit the panel. This can be very processor intensive, especially for large art files. Album art between 500 and 1000 pixels per side works bes and still looks good.
    Can now map a Custom List or Playlist to a single keystroke. Can also map 2 different keystrokes to a Playlist, one for playing it in normal order, and another one for random order.
    New configuration option for large collections, that is larger than 1000 albums. If using this option, album numbers will be 4 digits instead of 3, and the Options screen is accessed by pressing "0000" instead of "000".
    New configuration option, Connected, specifying whether jukebox is connected to Internet. By default this is set to True. Setting it to False will disable features such as album art downloading and CD ripping.
    Track numbers now appear on the screen, even if they are not part of the file name.
    Assorted bug fixes and performance tweaks.


ego, is there something odd or out of place with the albums that are supposed to be downloaded next?
I'll e-mail all of you with the new download link.



brilliant mate , ill check into the J albums and see what is wrong cant see what should stop it though

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Re: SKG Jukebox Update. Limited Beta Test
« Reply #90 on: November 08, 2010, 02:49:32 am »
Guys, I just finished a new update, 0.72 Second Beta. There are several fixes and new features.

    Up/Down arrow keys no correspond to volume up/down.
    Ctrl -M minimizes the window.
    Adding tracks to playlist is much faster and more responsive.
    New Move to Top button in Track List form
    Holding down left/right arrow keys keeps panels scrolling continuously. Scrolling is also smoother. Though it can still slow down somewhat if album art files are large. When SKG Jukebox loads the next panel of albums, it scales the artwork to fit the panel. This can be very processor intensive, especially for large art files. Album art between 500 and 1000 pixels per side works bes and still looks good.
    Can now map a Custom List or Playlist to a single keystroke. Can also map 2 different keystrokes to a Playlist, one for playing it in normal order, and another one for random order.
    New configuration option for large collections, that is larger than 1000 albums. If using this option, album numbers will be 4 digits instead of 3, and the Options screen is accessed by pressing "0000" instead of "000".
    New configuration option, Connected, specifying whether jukebox is connected to Internet. By default this is set to True. Setting it to False will disable features such as album art downloading and CD ripping.
    Track numbers now appear on the screen, even if they are not part of the file name.
    Assorted bug fixes and performance tweaks.

Looking forward to checking it out.  :applaud:

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Re: SKG Jukebox Update. Limited Beta Test
« Reply #91 on: November 08, 2010, 04:02:07 am »
some very nice updates skg great work again mate

control m - minimise window
very good option and was a must, worked perfectly

adding tracks to playlist faster
a huge improvement , songs add pretty much instant although having all my compilations under one folder called various artists i cant expand that folder to see tracks , this is set up various artists as common artist name  \ album \ track number - song title - artist , excellent work here

move to top button in track list options
my favorite improvement for sure , this button is invaluable with large tracklists

hold down left or right continuous scroll
worked perfect , although i think with this option the scroll should be very fast to get through to the end of a letter or mid letter  quickly ,

new config for large collections 000
0
this worked but when i shut down the juke i have to recheck the large collection and uncheck the internet every time , need a memory here

track number appear

perfectly done

now for my overall thoughts , not critisism just my thoughts based on a very large album collection

album scroll still too slow for me as i have 27 ac -dc albums so it takes a long time to get through the individual letters if you want a album near the end of that particular letter

when using numbers although i doubt very much if many will especially when you have a large collection , to pick one song now i have to type 6 numbers ,  i really think this option is a waste of space on the main screen which could be better served with other buttons , also if your going to use numbers then the main screen shouldnt go to full album view ,

some of the manual still talks about max 999 songs and also albums having 3 digits , also reference to 2 digit tracks when playlists may have 300

track list numbers are long now in my collection 6 digits which look pretty bad in the tracklist , basically it just looks like a heap of numbers , i think the track list really needs to show the song title , i remember i think you said this could be hard , but skjuke done it so it is doable , and would make the juke look so much better

click on song in main list doesnt pick song it only goes to full view , selecting songs on main screen would be an additional advantage especially for mouse users

scroll bars on the main screen album lists - are they nessasary if you cant use them without a scroll mouse , also the horizontal ones are wasted

where can i turn off the scroll sound , as it comes through my amp when im playing music and selecting albums slightly irritating

one screen of four albums had a problem and would shut down as error , i took these albums out and all worked fine , every one of these song plays in media player no problems and the art is fine , not sure on this one as they look fine , had the same problem halfway throught the J selection with the old version and now same albums same collections the J list scrolls no worries

ability to color change font and size would be awesome

as collections now are becoming very large a search option an onscreen keyboard button are a must , these  buttons could possibly replace the number letters along with an options button and maybe even a couple of buttons that you can write your favorite playlist name on it and use (pleanty of real estate where the buttons are  ;), sorry to keep going on about the buttons mate as i know you like them but a touch screen is so much quicker ,  i also have  0 -9  on my actual jukebox so that option is doubled up on my juke

all up thought mate some really good work  here and you need a collective pat on the back , i can only imagine how hard your working

regards

ego



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Re: SKG Jukebox Update. Limited Beta Test
« Reply #92 on: November 08, 2010, 10:08:11 pm »
skg - got to say mate your on the way to having a cracker here

volume up and down allowed me to program my powermate griffen volume knob , small problem here are the increments are to quick , to give an example sk juke had volume page up and page down , it takes around 6-7 seconds of holding to go from 0 - 100% of volume and its perfect using the powermate , skg takes around 2 seconds would be good if you can match those increments ( gives a better touch to volume control) and also have a pop up volume bar telling the percentage as you turn ( check out sj juke onscreen display when using volume)

if you remember my previous post about the powermate , remembering it has left right for volume ( it also can be mapped ) so using both mapping tools of skg juke and the volume knob ive been able to program it to  --   left right volume up and down , press in and turn right mapped to cont n for next song and press in and control left mapped to cont c lets me clear track list with no keyboard
now for the great part ,  i mapped home to my playlist ego and end to my wifes playlist i then mapped the griffen powermate to press in short to home and my playlist comes up and press in long and my wifes playlist comes up -      BRILLIANT MATE

still a little sticky in places on the scroll left and right and as i said earlier too slow in my opinon be great if you could adjust speed here so that guys wanting the slower look can use it and blokes with huge collections can go fast through the particular letters

im going to add two buttons to my juke now ego and debbie which will map to our playlists

i know you have the alphabet up top and i love that , but a great feature of sk juke was the up down buttons went to next letter ( this is great for going to the next couple of letters with button controls ,this can be used in conjunction with page up and down as up down is being used by volume

loving it so far cant wait for the next update

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Re: SKG Jukebox Update. Limited Beta Test
« Reply #93 on: November 08, 2010, 11:27:38 pm »
just had another thought while enjoying a beer and playins some tunes

screen  burn may be a problem now , there is a lot of screen not doing anything , i had sk to scroll albums at 5 second intervals after 2 minutes of no use this kept the top of screen going and its great to sit back and see an album you havent heard for a while and play it

im back at the large number buttons again ( sorry mate haha ) they are bright and large and would after time burn the screen i think

ok now for the ducks guts of applications for this juke - A REMOTE CONTROL  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: how about using an apple i phone as a remote i know there are a couple of jukes doing it album player i think does it ,now that would be a hit

oh and lose the number buttons  ;) lol sorry dude but they are an eyesore and pretty much useless in the end , a mouse or touch kill entering numbers for songs. So much space wasted on the buttons that could be put to great use.


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Re: SKG Jukebox Update. Limited Beta Test
« Reply #94 on: November 09, 2010, 12:21:06 am »
is there an option to turn of the album scroll sound as it comes through my speakers as my songs are playing
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« Reply #95 on: November 09, 2010, 02:24:15 am »
Hey ego, a lot of good comments.

It's true that the list of track numbers in the lower left doesn't convey a lot of information. That's why I created the track list form, to give more information and control. I tried doing a track list there ala SK Jukebox but ran into a screen real estate issue. I'm sorry but I like the number buttons. I thinks they give it a more authentic jukebox look and feel, they take me back to the old 45 jukes and CD jukeboxes of the 70s and 80s. I'm thinking of just putting info about the next coming track in the lower left, kind of like Tetris telling you what the next block is. There is more than enough room for that, and if you want more info, click the lower left and bring up the track list form.

Screen burn in really isn't a problem with modern monitors. You have to go back quite a few years to find a monitor where that is an issue.

A track search function is a neat idea. I'll look into that.

I've never written anything with a remote control interface. I'm not sure where to start. But it is a good idea for a future update.

Still working on scrolling speed. I've never done animations before, and getting the timing right is tricky.

Playlists are stored in an xml file in the resources directory called, strangely enough, playlists.xml. If you back that up and restore it, you can use the same playlists after restore. If you try to load a playlist that has songs that have not been are not in the library, you will get some alien behavior, so make sure you add all your music back first. Also, moving your playlists and custom lists xml files is a good way to use the same lists on two platforms, like your jukebox PC and a laptop.

BTW, if you haven't done so, try installing the juke on a platform with a widescreen monitor. Both the development machine and deployment PC were widescreen notebooks, so by default I ended up tweaking the appearance to look best that way.

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Re: SKG Jukebox Update. Limited Beta Test
« Reply #96 on: November 09, 2010, 02:47:48 am »
haha no problems mate your the boss , great work though

still playing with it

when adding a playlist can you make it add to current list not delete current playing list.

you really only need three or four songs that are coming up next down bottom left , that would allow you to pick songs see the next couple and decide to go to track list options and delete or move up other songs

i love the track list options mate , sk had the same but you couldnt add to top

thinking more on the remote aspect , what about a blue tooth remote like a ps3 ( the actual remote not the hand control for games) it has skip etc for the dvd and blu ray , rather then a phone i think the remote is like 40 bucks instead of an iphone , really you only need volume up and down and skip song , i have a lot of music and i dont mind just putting the whole collection on random sometimes but its a pain to keep getting up to skip a song you hate.





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Re: SKG Jukebox Update. Limited Beta Test
« Reply #97 on: November 09, 2010, 08:51:39 am »
skg - just done a pretty good session listenting to the juke , had 5 people over pushing buttons selecting songs and loving the jukebox , there were about 4 times the music went to mute and it didnt matter what you done you had to shut down the program and restart , i played the same song or album when it come back on and not a problem . i hate comparing to sk all the time but since it is a dedication to that program i think i have to so you can improve . when this sort of thing happened with sk you would close and restart and your track list was still there , skg you lose the tracklist which as you can imagine sucks when you have twenty or thirty songs lined up, hope it easily copied , other then that it ran great

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« Reply #98 on: November 09, 2010, 06:26:12 pm »
ego, I'll look into saving the track list in case of restart. Shouldn't be hard to implement. Good idea.

Any chance the music was paused and not muted? The space bar maps to pause/unpause current track. If one of the buttons was mapped to that and was hit accidentally, it might look like it was muted. Were the seconds still ticking away on the Now Playing section, bottom center?

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Re: SKG Jukebox Update. Limited Beta Test
« Reply #99 on: November 09, 2010, 06:44:23 pm »
ego, I'll look into saving the track list in case of restart. Shouldn't be hard to implement. Good idea.

Any chance the music was paused and not muted? The space bar maps to pause/unpause current track. If one of the buttons was mapped to that and was hit accidentally, it might look like it was muted. Were the seconds still ticking away on the Now Playing section, bottom center?

wasnt paused mate the seconds were clocking up

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« Reply #100 on: November 09, 2010, 11:23:24 pm »

BTW, if you haven't done so, try installing the juke on a platform with a widescreen monitor. Both the development machine and deployment PC were widescreen notebooks, so by default I ended up tweaking the appearance to look best that way.
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pretty much locked into a 19 inch 4:3 screen as most actual juke owners will have , ive spent a lot of time building my juke so ill be sticking with that screen size although i do have a spare 22 inch widescreen i was hoping in a future update that video clips may be an option.

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« Reply #101 on: November 11, 2010, 05:38:19 pm »
Hey guys. I appreciate all the feedback so far. I managed to implement the feature where the program remembers the existing track list and reloads it when restarted. I will be starting on the track search function in the next few days. I am also reading a Dummies book on building web sites, since I don't have much experience with that.

ego, funny you mentioned video clips. Once the jukebox is where I want it to be, and the web site is up, there are two other projects I want to start working on. The first is a multi-emulator front end, to be called SKG Gamebox. The next is the SKG Videobox. Think of a UI similar to the juke, for all you movies, tv shows, music videos, etc. These are just in the idea stage right now, but they will share a similar UI, and the design goals will be the same. Namely, multi-platform, open source, touch friendly, and netbook friendly as well.

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« Reply #102 on: November 11, 2010, 06:21:26 pm »
SKG, just wanted to let you know I'm still on board.  Have some other projects going down and haven't had a chance to test the new release yet.

One thing I thought of, that might have already been covered;  You might want to include some type of logic in dealing with artist names that begin with "The".
It's one shortfall of my current jukebox software.  I had to remove "The" from all the band names to keep them from showing up under T.  That always annoyed me, but I did it anyway because there wasn't a way around it.  Although not jukebox software, mediamonkey has a checkbox to ignore "The" and organize the artist based on the next word.  i.e. The Beatles shows up with the Bs.

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« Reply #103 on: November 11, 2010, 10:31:55 pm »
SKG, just wanted to let you know I'm still on board.  Have some other projects going down and haven't had a chance to test the new release yet.

One thing I thought of, that might have already been covered;  You might want to include some type of logic in dealing with artist names that begin with "The".
It's one shortfall of my current jukebox software.  I had to remove "The" from all the band names to keep them from showing up under T.  That always annoyed me, but I did it anyway because there wasn't a way around it.  Although not jukebox software, mediamonkey has a checkbox to ignore "The" and organize the artist based on the next word.  i.e. The Beatles shows up with the Bs.


this has already been done mate , one of the things i noticed in the first version of skg juke as a great improvement over sk juke

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« Reply #104 on: November 12, 2010, 10:15:59 am »
this has already been done mate , one of the things i noticed in the first version of skg juke as a great improvement over sk juke

Thanks, guess I should have read the instructions before posting.
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« Reply #105 on: November 13, 2010, 12:09:21 pm »
skg  -   just going back through all the posts to compile a list of suggestions that still may have a future in skg juke , i thought it would be good to have an updated reference point of suggestions every now and then to make it easier to see them , if anyone has anything to add please quote and add your thoughts or unanswered questions

having just updated my library from artist-album\music to artist\album\music , even though media monkey does this reletatively good it still has issues transferring some art especially with double albums , i hope this is the last time i ever have to re tag lol , have you been able to see if it is hard to program skg juke to look for both forms of folder options?

can the album art be bigger

automatic scroll through the albums when juke not in use for a minute or two , auto scroll through full album view would be even better

blue tooth remote , volume up and down and next song would the basic functions , ps3 remote is bluetooth and cheap


options to change font size and color for personal taste

i know your working on this one , option to have fast or slow scroll album speed , fast being as fast as sk juke was

up down option ( could be mapped to page up and down as volume is using up down) to have skg juke scroll to start of next letter using only button , this is a good option for actual juke builds with buttons , the a -z up top is awesome but to just go a couple of letters is quick using buttons

just a thought is there a real need to have the songs on the four album view , without the songs the art could be bigger and the juke may look even better , might be good to just click on a album cover and see the songs inside (scroll bars on four album view dont really do anything as if you touch them you go to full album view) an option to have no scroll bars on the four album view

an option to have the song now playing  add to playlist ( with a drop down menu of your playlists to choose which one to add)

permanent memory for selecting no internet and large album collection

an option to turn scroll sound off , very annoying when playing an album as it comes over the top of the song

will there be an onscreen keyboard for the track search similar to sk juke , as i want my juke to work without the need for a keyboard





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Re: SKG Jukebox Update. Limited Beta Test
« Reply #106 on: November 13, 2010, 05:30:58 pm »
skg i know your working on a platform for movies , music videos etc

is it possible to incorporate music videos in skg juke , have a button that reads music videos and movie clips take you to a screen with your collection?

would it also be possible to have page up and page down (which i can map to my up down arrows on my juke , i already have a volume knob so dont need them for volume ) to have the albums scroll say 5 screens or 20 albums at a time , as ive mentioned in a large collection you can easily go to the letter but to get to say avril lavigne at the end of the A's it takes some time
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« Reply #107 on: November 14, 2010, 07:31:35 pm »
A configuration option to disable the album scrolling sound and a track search screen are next on the list.

Album art size is a function of panel size. When the panel with a single album on it resizes, it sizes the album art so that it is always a square and never takes up more then half the width of the panel.

I suppose I could map page up and down to next/previous letter. Also, in case you didn't know, the letter buttons on the standard keyboard map to the letter buttons up top. When I want to go the end of the A's, I hit the "B" button to go to the start of the B's and work backward.

Adding the current song to a playlist is an interesting idea. I have to figure out how to make it touch friendly. Also, The jukebox doesn't know which playlist it is playing. To the juke, a playlist is just a bunch of track numbers it loads into the queue and forgets about.

A little confused about the no internet and large album comment. Weren't those features already implemented?

Themes are something I will work on in a future update, once I figure out how.

Remote control interface is interesting, but I've never written a UI that interfaces with one, so I'd have to teach myself what's involved.

Haven't gotten much feedback on album art downloading or CD ripping functions. Anyone had a chance to use those?

Thanks for everything guys.       

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Re: SKG Jukebox Update. Limited Beta Test
« Reply #108 on: November 15, 2010, 12:06:32 am »
A configuration option to disable the album scrolling sound and a track search screen are next on the list.

Album art size is a function of panel size. When the panel with a single album on it resizes, it sizes the album art so that it is always a square and never takes up more then half the width of the panel.

I suppose I could map page up and down to next/previous letter. Also, in case you didn't know, the letter buttons on the standard keyboard map to the letter buttons up top. When I want to go the end of the A's, I hit the "B" button to go to the start of the B's and work backward.

Adding the current song to a playlist is an interesting idea. I have to figure out how to make it touch friendly. Also, The jukebox doesn't know which playlist it is playing. To the juke, a playlist is just a bunch of track numbers it loads into the queue and forgets about.

A little confused about the no internet and large album comment. Weren't those features already implemented?

Themes are something I will work on in a future update, once I figure out how.

Remote control interface is interesting, but I've never written a UI that interfaces with one, so I'd have to teach myself what's involved.

Haven't gotten much feedback on album art downloading or CD ripping functions. Anyone had a chance to use those?

Thanks for everything guys.      

will the track search have an onscreen keyboard function?



as far as add to current song to playlist maybe you could check out windows media player , not sure how hard this would be and a button of add now playing song to a playlist (open list of all playlists) would be great , when you right click on a song in media player you have an option to add song to playlist and all your playlists are there so all you do is highlite the one you want and it goes there , hope you can figure this one out as i love hearing a song not in my playlist and instantly can add it

the internet and large album collection has been done , the problem is it doesnt remember on shut down so every time i open up i have to check the no internet again and the large album collection  ,  a memory here would be good

i think there are remote controls available now for pcs maybe look at them first and see if you can have it skg juke freindly

still havent got my juke on the net mate but ill add the software to my laptop and try these features for you and give you my thoughts

got one for you not that im a dolly parton fan but i have 3 albums from a set ( dolly parton legendary) i cant find and album cover for this one , see what you can find with skg juke
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« Reply #109 on: November 16, 2010, 07:20:31 pm »
I'd like to have separate keys for "Cancel" and exiting the jukebox.

Say someone builds a non-touchscreen old school style jukebox.
They would have to include a cancel button, but if the same button exits the jukebox,
I guarantee a guest will press it in the main screen and exit the jukebox.

I'd also like the option to stay on the 4 album view screen when an album number is punched in.
The switch kind of makes me loose my bearings for a second when typing in an album+song number.

One solution for the albums that have a lot of tracks might be to have some type of logic that creates another pane for an album if it has more than 12 or 13 songs.  It would continue the tracks on the next pane along with another copy of the album art.  (as if they are on a separate cd, but the cd number could still be the same).  Probably not easy to implement, but it would eliminate the scroll bars.  I guess if someone really wanted to, they could manually create another folder and split up the tracks.

track numbers are showing up fine for my file names that don't have them btw

If I get my album art straightened out before weekend, I'll put it on my current jukebox and let my guests have at it.

(oh, and I deleted the annoying page turning sound  ;)  )
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Re: SKG Jukebox Update. Limited Beta Test
« Reply #110 on: November 16, 2010, 08:48:15 pm »
 Hi,
Are you still looking for Linux testers,I have a Ubuntu 10.4 fresh install ,I would like to try it,if it's ok.
Thanks,
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Re: SKG Jukebox Update. Limited Beta Test
« Reply #111 on: November 16, 2010, 09:00:20 pm »
CD ripping - The CD had to be loaded before clicking "Rip CD" in the options menu or else I got "500 command syntax error" at the bottom of the cd ripping window.  It came up with the correct artist and album, but didn't list a year or genre, so I tried typing it in the box where it would have appeared, but it wouldn't let me.  Most other software would give you the option to make changes before ripping.

Not sure how much work you should put into the CD ripper.  Personally I'm picky about having all my stuff ripped at the same bitrate, etc, so I don't plan to use it.  (I know you went over that stuff in the instructions)
I'm not sure how much demand there will be for an integrated one.  I'm assuming most people who build a jukebox pc already have their music collection ripped and have a preferred way of doing it.  I guess it does avoid the hassle of ripping it on another pc then transferring it to the jukebox.
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« Reply #112 on: November 16, 2010, 10:33:13 pm »
pretty much locked into a 19 inch 4:3 screen as most actual juke owners will have , ive spent a lot of time building my juke so ill be sticking with that screen size although i do have a spare 22 inch widescreen i was hoping in a future update that video clips may be an option.

Although I'm testing on a widescreen (for now), I agree with egosbar that most people will be using a 4:3 screen for their jukebox.
I've never even considered a widescreen touch monitor an option due to the availability and price of 4:3 models.

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« Reply #113 on: November 17, 2010, 01:39:03 am »


(oh, and I deleted the annoying page turning sound  ;)  )

how did you delete this sound mate?

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Re: SKG Jukebox Update. Limited Beta Test
« Reply #114 on: November 17, 2010, 02:39:14 am »
I've added a config option to not play the page turn sound. That will be in the next update. I'm working on the track search feature now, with an onscreen keyboard that I will also add to the custom list and playlist screens.

I did the switch from 4 album view to single album for two reasons. One, because that's how the SK Jukebox works, and two, because there isn't enough room in the 4 album view to display all the tracks for large albums.

The CD ripper is designed for simplicity. People who are picky about their encoding settings should use something like EAC. People who just want decent rips fairly quickly and easily can use the integrated one.

s-peterson, I've been getting reports that the debian package isn't installing correctly. I need to investigate this, then I'll send you the download link.

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« Reply #115 on: November 21, 2010, 11:27:00 am »
Everything seems to work fine on my main Vista PC.

I'm installing it on my touchscreen jukebox PC today which runs XP.

How far out is the next update?  I may wait for it before trying it on my Windows 7 laptop.

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« Reply #116 on: November 21, 2010, 01:32:05 pm »
Hey guys. I just finished the track search feature, and I'm starting on the feature to add the current track to a playlist. I then have to port the changes to the Windows version and test them on the deployment machines. I also need to investigate the problems with the Linux install package. I am probably 2-3 weeks from a new update, which will probably be the last one for the limited beta test. I want to concentrate on building the website and getting it hosted, and getting a decent domain name. Here are some screenshots of the track search screen, and the new Options screen.


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« Reply #117 on: November 21, 2010, 03:11:29 pm »
Looks good Patrick.

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« Reply #118 on: November 22, 2010, 07:24:14 pm »
Anyone else testing this on Windows 7?

Just installed it on my laptop and I'm having some issues.
The music is on a network drive this time around, but I don't think that's related to the issues.

The big issue is that the main jukebox window stays on top, even when trying to open the options menu or load album art.
The main window becomes unresponsive because focus has shifted to the dialog window, but it isn't visible.
If I go to task manager, I can see the dialog boxes are running, but using "switch to" or "bring to front" has no effect.

Then I tried to run it in XP SP3 compatibility mode and no albums loaded, maybe because I didn't run it that way first.

I will continue to mess around with it, but was curious if anyone else was using windows 7.

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Re: SKG Jukebox Update. Limited Beta Test
« Reply #119 on: November 22, 2010, 07:25:43 pm »
Anyone else testing this on Windows 7?

Just installed it on my laptop and I'm having some issues.
The music is on a network drive this time around, but I don't think that's related to the issues.

The big issue is that the main jukebox window stays on top, even when trying to open the options menu or load album art.
The main window becomes unresponsive because focus has shifted to the dialog window, but it isn't visible.
If I go to task manager, I can see the dialog boxes are running, but using "switch to" or "bring to front" has no effect.

Then I tried to run it in XP SP3 compatibility mode and no albums loaded, maybe because I didn't run it that way first.

I will continue to mess around with it, but was curious if anyone else was using windows 7.

Windows XP Pro for me.