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Author Topic: R3play Expo - Blackpool 6/7 Nov 2010 - Reviews and comments!  (Read 9825 times)

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For those who aren't already aware, the CGEU (Computing & Gaming Events Union) are hosting a huge classic and modern gaming show called R3play at Norbreck Castle Hotel, Blackpool, England on 6/7 November 2010. The show is expected to build on the smaller retro gaming events and meets as well as the idea behind the 2009 Insert Coin show to create an all-encompassing annual show dedicated to all things gaming; retro and modern. You can read all about it at the R3play official website and through forum discussions across the web, plus I will now be posting updates here as and when they become known. As an idea of the show size, here are a couple of pics of the show location and the preliminary floorplan, which is in the large-capacity Norcalympia suite of Norbreck Castle Hotel:





This schedule has now been revised and the arcade section will be filling the nearside wall opposite the stage (second pic), but I'm hoping we can fill the perimeter with machines! A full gallery is viewable at the CGEU website here as well as past show images from other CGEU events.

The first show at the UK's spiritual home of arcade gaming is being promoted thoroughly across the arcade gaming community as well as in local press and any future of the show will depend on how well the initial show goes. All aspects of videogaming are so far well-represented from classic computers, consoles and memorabilia to network gaming, modern consoles and talks/wokshops so there is plenty for everyone's tastes. Various competitions and challenges will be run on the day from vs. fighting games to FPS deathmatches and some main stage comps. The show is being hosted by game-fan ex-TV hottie Gail Porter and there is expected to be an abundance of web, local TV and press media there reporting on the show and some possible minor celebrity attendances.

The big question most members of BYOAC are probably asking is what type of arcade gaming coverage there will be, particularly in comparison to Insert Coin '09's show. At present, arcade gaming is moderately well presented with plenty currently expected in terms of original classic machines as well as some Candy JAMMA offerings from online communities like Arcade Otaku and the JAMMA+ forums, and there will also be some DDR representation too. However, I've been in talks with Dave Moore at CGEU and he has expessed a desire to incorporate the home build community and increase the arcade gaming presence there, which many will be expecting. As he is unfamiliar amongst these communities he has asked me to put out a request to this community and see who we can get involved to make this show about the roots of gaming we know and love!

The show organisers would like more individuals to contribute and assure their attendance, so anyone in the UK or Europe who can make it to the show and maybe submit a machine for the arcade machine show section would be openly welcomed. Similarly, they would like other large or small-time vendors to think about attending with a trade stall, as it is expected there will be a decent proportion of enthusiasts to generate sales and some newcomers to the hobby who would like to see what is on offer to the relative novice. I will be leading by example as we will have a Turnarcades stall on display within the arcade gaming section with a couple of machines for playing on as part of the show as well as selling heavily-discounted kits ready to take away and taking orders for custom machnes. I see it as a good opportunity to mix with like-minded folk and also share stories with my fellow BYOAC members.

Anyway, could anyone interested in attending or contributing to the show please express an interest in this thread (Saint, if you could sticky this it would be great!), then I can point the CGEU organisers to this thread to see how they can help in any way and they can see the interestthis community obviously has in this type of event. I know there has been other minor threads on the show but if you have any questions or comments I can relay them back from here and hopefully make our mark on the success of the show!
« Last Edit: November 09, 2010, 12:34:41 pm by Turnarcades »

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Re: R3play Expo - Blackpool 6/7 Nov 2010 - New info and requests!
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2010, 04:47:13 am »
I'm carpooling with a bunch of friends from another forum and we'll be making our way over from Belgium to Blackpool. We won't have anything to contribute but our presence though... It's gonna be tight enough, cramming 5 ppl in a tiny car :p.

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Re: R3play Expo - Blackpool 6/7 Nov 2010 - New info and requests!
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2010, 10:20:24 am »
I'm carpooling with a bunch of friends from another forum and we'll be making our way over from Belgium to Blackpool. We won't have anything to contribute but our presence though... It's gonna be tight enough, cramming 5 ppl in a tiny car :p.

Great news to hear; I think I may have read this in another forum actually. Good to see some European cousins will be making the pilgrimage! Will you be staying at the Norbreck?

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Re: R3play Expo - Blackpool 6/7 Nov 2010 - New info and requests!
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2010, 03:41:59 pm »
We're all students, so it had to be cheap above all. The person who organizes the whole thing found his way to our forum and negotiated a deal with a motel down the street. We'll be staying there.

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Re: R3play Expo - Blackpool 6/7 Nov 2010 - New info and requests!
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2010, 07:09:23 pm »
I think I know which one, and good choice too. The facilities and exhibition rooms at Norbreck are great but I hear bad things about their hotel rooms. Personally me and my gang will be staying in a small B+B by the tower. I'mhoping a few more visitors will be checking in on this and could possibly demonstrate a cabinet or two - if transport is a problem there is a possibility of the show organisers arranging something...

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Re: R3play Expo - Blackpool 6/7 Nov 2010 - New info and requests!
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2010, 10:30:18 pm »
I've had a second preliminary plan from Dave at CGEU and will hopefully know more soon. The arcade section is shaping up to be a more prominent feature with around 50 machines already planned out and hopefully a few more if anyone here can contribute - let's try and get enough for a 'home-build' section! Hopefully some of our favourite vendors here will be able to commit and if you can recommend anyone/anything you'd like to see that would be great. I am thinking of running a competition or two to win a cabinet kit from us, so I will have to see how my plans go.

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Re: R3play Expo - Blackpool 6/7 Nov 2010 - New info and requests!
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2010, 04:34:45 am »
I live in Manchester and can't wait for this event!  A friend and I make an annual trip to Blackpool purely for the arcades and this will fit the bill perfectly!  :)

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Re: R3play Expo - Blackpool 6/7 Nov 2010 - New info and requests!
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2010, 05:40:31 am »
Looking forward to this event. I have booked a hotel 10mins walk away from the venue and will be coming along with a mate (the wife didn't seem too interested  :lol )

My arcade cab shell was built by Turnarcades too so I will definitely be popping by to say hello. (Finally finishing the wiring of the contol panel this weekend - has been long enough now!)

Should be a good event.
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Re: R3play Expo - Blackpool 6/7 Nov 2010 - New info and requests!
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2010, 08:49:18 am »
Great news guys will be good to see you both there - Scott it would be great if you could post some pictures of your cab progressing in the 'Projects' forum for us all to see.

With regards the show I'm hoping that the DDR display will still be close to the rest of the arcade section to continue the theme, though not too close to me cos we all know those cabs are LOUD!

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Re: R3play Expo - Blackpool 6/7 Nov 2010 - New info and requests!
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2010, 02:47:59 pm »
My buddy told my that 'press play on tape' are performing, cant see it mentioned on the site - any truth in that?

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Re: R3play Expo - Blackpool 6/7 Nov 2010 - New info and requests!
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2010, 07:11:56 pm »
My buddy told my that 'press play on tape' are performing, cant see it mentioned on the site - any truth in that?

No idea yet but Dave tells me the website will see some big updates soon as well as their facebook page. There will likely be some good use of the stage for things like this though I imagine more will be known after this weekend as some organisers are going to the venue to look at possibilities based on what they now have booked in.

Anyone wondering who PPOT are should check out this video:

« Last Edit: July 29, 2010, 07:15:11 pm by Turnarcades »

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Re: R3play Expo - Blackpool 6/7 Nov 2010 - New info and requests!
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2010, 05:26:50 pm »
Its practically down the street from my house, so I will be there.

Will you bring any *finished* cabinets to this fair Turnarcades?  ;)
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Re: R3play Expo - Blackpool 6/7 Nov 2010 - New info and requests!
« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2010, 05:38:36 pm »
err, that vid would probably put people off!

THIS is more like it!




I really hope they are performing, would love to see them live!


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Re: R3play Expo - Blackpool 6/7 Nov 2010 - New info and requests!
« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2010, 06:24:17 pm »
Just been given the heads-up from a couple more of your favourite forum members and vendors that they will be in attendance but as plans are still being finalised by the organisers and these guys I will hang on a short while before mentioning them - I'm sure they will be adding their own comments here once they've made suitable arrangements.

Kick Energy are apparently the major official prtner/sponsor so I would expect promos and freebies associated with this; expect a load of already hyped-up gamers ripped to the tits on energy drinks all weekend!

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Re: R3play Expo - Blackpool 6/7 Nov 2010 - New info and requests!
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2010, 02:56:52 pm »

This sounds AWESOME  :applaud:

I was already sold on 1 day attendance, but if PPoT are there then count me in for 2 (esp if they're doing the Sat eve  :cheers: )


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Re: R3play Expo - Blackpool 6/7 Nov 2010 - New info and requests!
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2010, 08:13:04 pm »
'Elo everyone!

Thanks for all the interest in the Blackpool show, and cheers especially to Craig  :cheers: (for assuming the role of "R3PLAY Head of PR", LOL!  :laugh:)

Jimmy: no idea where you heard the PPOT "rumour" but I'm afraid to say it definitely ain't true! :(

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Re: R3play Expo - Blackpool 6/7 Nov 2010 - New info and requests!
« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2010, 08:11:56 pm »
Currently waiting on any new info from Dave following last weekend's visit to the venue (which I was unfortunately unable to attend) but in the meantime here's some youtube vids of the venue and some teasers/previews of what to expect from the show:

r3play Teaser Ver0 3




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Re: R3play Expo - Blackpool 6/7 Nov 2010 - New info and requests!
« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2010, 07:59:49 am »
Just to let you know, I am officially on-board. I plan to have a couple of systems with me, so please drop by and say hello.

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Re: R3play Expo - Blackpool 6/7 Nov 2010 - New info and requests!
« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2010, 08:38:50 am »
Great stuff st, looking forward to it. Will be great to see the man behind the machines and finally get to have a look at those quality tables!

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Re: R3play Expo - Blackpool 6/7 Nov 2010 - New info and requests!
« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2010, 05:45:07 pm »
Thought I'd bump this thread and see who's going from the BYOAC forums. I'v already bought tickets from their official site some time ago (though they still haven't arrived) and my B&B is already booked just round the corner from the event location. I'll be going over Friday evening so I can comfortably enjoy a full English next morning before strolling over.  ;D

Looking forward to the illuminations during the evening, check out the arcades on the front, couple of pints and fish and chips supper. Blackpool are at home to Everton on that Saturday so the place could be full of Scousers on a day trip as it's only down the road. Should be good fun though.... really looking forward to it.

EDIT:  I could bring along my DK bartop if anyone is interested in displaying it. Of course I'm not a trader and I would be entrusting it to someone who had some space. I'd be interested just to see people playing on it and what they thought.
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Re: R3play Expo - Blackpool 6/7 Nov 2010 - New info and requests!
« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2010, 04:08:35 am »
expect a load of already hyped-up gamers ripped to the tits on energy drinks all weekend!

Man-boobs?  EWWWWWWW!!!!!   :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke :puke

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Re: R3play Expo - Blackpool 6/7 Nov 2010 - New info and requests!
« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2010, 07:21:41 am »
I'm there for sure  ;D

We are travelling up early Saturday morning and staying over night. It looks like it should be a great weekend.  :cheers:

The final floor plan has now been posted over at the main site:


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Re: R3play Expo - Blackpool 6/7 Nov 2010 - New info and requests!
« Reply #22 on: November 02, 2010, 05:39:05 pm »
I'm frantically trying to get everything ready for the show, and really looking forward to it.

Please come and say hello, though after this week you might find me asleep on the sofa. Just give me a kick. I met a couple of people from here at IC09, so looking forward to meeting a few more.

I'll be next to Craig, making sure his uprights don't start on my tabletops   :)

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Re: R3play Expo - Blackpool 6/7 Nov 2010 - New info and requests!
« Reply #23 on: November 02, 2010, 07:25:01 pm »
Oh man, I had some hopes making this but the opportunity slipped (Bad planning i guess) :badmood:

Is this a yearly event?

Are there other arcade events coming next year? (I live in Norway so it doesn't matter where in Europe actually.)
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Re: R3play Expo - Blackpool 6/7 Nov 2010 - New info and requests!
« Reply #24 on: November 03, 2010, 05:30:41 pm »

I will be jumping on a train and braving the hazard of engineering work at Wigan North West and hopefully get there around midday Sat.

I will be looking at what we could do to participate in the show if its held again next year. It didnt work out right this year as we have just moved premises and to be honest I am looking forward to that train trip to get some R&R!

Question is how much self-build Mame will be there? If the Northampton show was anything to go by, not a lot, but I'm sure it will be worth the trip anyway. Not sure if Mame sits comfortably alongside a Nintendo stand!

No doubt Craig and Dan will have some great cabinets and look forward to meeting all.  I could stick an Aimtrak gun into my bag if you want to plug it into one of your cabs Craig.

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Re: R3play Expo - Blackpool 6/7 Nov 2010 - New info and requests!
« Reply #25 on: November 03, 2010, 07:07:38 pm »
Question is how much self-build Mame will be there? If the Northampton show was anything to go by, not a lot, but I'm sure it will be worth the trip anyway. Not sure if Mame sits comfortably alongside a Nintendo stand!

Well I emailed them through the website just last weekend asking them if they were interested in showing my DK bartop. I didn't expect much as it was late in the day to organise an exhibit. But they were very positive and want me to take it along.  :cheers:

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Re: R3play Expo - Blackpool 6/7 Nov 2010 - New info and requests!
« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2010, 03:17:16 pm »
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not many BYOACers be there :-\

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« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2010, 05:18:39 am »
I'll be there on. Sunday hoping to kickstart my own cabinet project so will be looking for ideas  ;D

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« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2010, 05:36:05 am »
It was a good show.  There was problems getting into the venue, as the organisers had more people to deal with, as we were queuing outside around the building well after the opening time.  But it was a bright sunny (chilly) morning, but they got their act together and resolved it.  Maybe next year (if we are lucky) they will fix that problem.

Inside they had la huge amount of console and home computers, candy cabs with a range of Jap Shooters, computer clubs and the Computer Museum.  The Computer Museum had relics of the past, including a PDP.  What was odd was the BBC computers included into this timeline.  Made me feel old.  :lol

A nice range of Pins.  No Adams Family or Funhouse, but they had a cool Terminator 2 Pin.

Two great tombola for charity.  We bagged quite a few PS3 and 360 games for 50p.

Craig was there with his Mame machines, and we had a working Star Wars Trilogy and SW Vector to play on.

All in all a good day.

Pictures to follow, if i can get them off my phone.. :banghead:
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« Reply #29 on: November 07, 2010, 01:10:33 pm »
We had a great time at the show. We got there about 20 minutes after it started and we didn't have to queue at all, we must have caught it at the right time.

There was loads to do and I think it would have taken a couple more days to get round everything. I really enjoyed what I did get to play though. Its a shame a lot of the woodies ended up either not working or not set to freeplay but from what I could see all of the candies performed brilliantly.

Had a nice chat with Craig from Turnarcades and Andy(?) from Surface Tension, I must say both of your products looked great and they were very popular :)

All in all it was a great event and I hope it was the first of many. Who knows, I may actually take along something myself another year if I actually get something finished  :D

Pics to follow also...

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« Reply #30 on: November 07, 2010, 02:15:48 pm »
I was blown away.. I've been to a few of these events that have turned out to be $bigcompany showing off something and a few hundred mobile phone sellers pretending they're 'down with the geeks'.  This was nothing like that.. Ended up spending all day :p  The 40 player 1942 was great fun.

It took me under 2 minutes to get a kit from turnarcades*.. went in, saw what the machines looked like 'for real' then decided on the spot it wasn't worth waiting (not to mention the saving in postage & a nice discount).  Of course now I've got a pile of wood and little idea what to do next :p

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Re: R3play Expo - Blackpool 6/7 Nov 2010 - New info and requests!
« Reply #31 on: November 07, 2010, 06:30:03 pm »
What a brilliant event! Thoroughly enjoyed both days.  :applaud:

Just about every home micro from the 80s was there (I didn't see a Jupiter Ace though  :P). About an equal number of JP cabs and woodies. The only shame was that the Robotron cabinet wasn't working as it had got damaged in transit to the show. But other classics were there like Battlezone, Star Wars, DK, and also Jon Stoodley's beautifully restored Pacman sat alongside Tony Temple's Missile Command. (Though I did hear some bearded American guy complaining about trackball settings  :P)

The computer museum section was interesting and the geek in me even had me working on their challenge to program the BBC micro to print out the first 20 prime numbers in the least lines of code. That took me 30 mins of head scratching but I managed it in eight lines. Then it was back to the games.....

Turnarcades and Surface Tension both had a couple of top quality cabs on display. It's not until you see these cabs in the "flesh" that you really appreciate the tight attention to detail in them.

There were loads of competitions going on. I got to the quarter finals of the Sensible Soccer tournament but lost on penalties  :hissy:
I won a couple of PC games on the tombola stands but, best of all..... I won the King of Kong competition that Craig ran on Turnarcades stand to win a lovely bartop kit.  ;D So that's gonna be dedicated to the horizontal games seeing as my DK bartop covers the verts.

There was modern stuff there too of course but the balance was right.

The organisers aren't committing to another date next year but I'm sure they'd agree it was a total success. I really hope it becomes something regular.

I got loads of pics and I'll upload some later.

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Re: R3play Expo - Blackpool 6/7 Nov 2010 - New info and requests!
« Reply #32 on: November 08, 2010, 04:15:44 am »
As promised here are some pics  :D





Chuckie Egg yeaaaaaaah!!!!  I spent many weeks playing the Spectrum version of this classic back in the day.  :)



Now this is cool!  :cheers: Remember the April Fool joke played on Thinkgeek.com for the iCade? Well someone has put the idea into production!  http://www.freekade.co.uk/

















Like a typical Englishman I reached the quarter-final stage only to choke on penalties.   :cry:





My DK bartop was received quite well. But unfortunately 10 hours of constant use proved too much as it expired right at the end of the first day.  Need to pull the guts out to find out which component died on me.  :angry:





I can't remember this guys name but he is a really good DK player. I set up an empty hi-score file for this event on my DK bartop, and it's a good job I did because this guy scored over 360K on my machine which I can't get anywhere near to as yet. We discussed tips on the game and it was good to meet someone who loved DK as much as I do.





Shame the Robotron wasn't working  :-\  Those original Wico's felt awesome though. The Defender was working later on but the joystick was quite stiff to use which made the game much more hard to play. But I'm crap at it anyway.  ;)









Loved playing on this original Frogger cab. The joystick was beautifully responsive for the delicate control needed. I posted highest scores on each day for this game.   :blah:  :blah:





Aren't Japanese cabinets simply AWESOME!!! So comfy to sit and play at these machines. Got talking to a guy about them and apparently the Egret II cab has a rotating mechanism for the monitor where you just lift the bezel and pull/turn the monitor with one hand. I have a future project lined up now that involves one of these cabs, a PC, J-Pac and an ArcadeVGA!  :drool























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Re: R3play Expo - Blackpool 6/7 Nov 2010 - New info and requests!
« Reply #33 on: November 08, 2010, 06:26:47 am »
This was an amazing show as everyone has already said. I wish I'd had the time to go and play on the Commodores and Amstrads, plus all the geat multiplayer stuff that was going on on-stage.

Good to see you made it home LeedsFan. Some great photos. I'll put a few up over the next few days.

It was also good to put some faces to names... Craig, LeedsFan and Franco. Plus new member Xiondz, doing some research for building up his new cab.

Iain Lee was great too. He was totally at home there and very friendly.

Dave and his team did an absolutely fantastic job. I'll be giving him a call once he's finished and caught up on the lost sleep.

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Re: R3play Expo - Blackpool 6/7 Nov 2010 - New info and requests!
« Reply #34 on: November 08, 2010, 06:39:46 am »
I had a great time at the weekend. Played a pile of games that I had forgotten existed! A friend and I played Moonstone on the Amiga for about 2 hours on Sunday :P Was great to see what the Turnarcade cabs looked like finished (mine is ready to collect!). The surface tension tables are super sexy too.

I really hope they run something like this again as I'll definitely be attending :)

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« Reply #36 on: November 08, 2010, 02:20:43 pm »
So nice with some pics and video  :cheers: Thanks for shearing. It looked like an cool event. Hope to see a "rerun" next year and I will be there.
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« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2010, 03:15:33 pm »
   Definitely great event, hope there will be "rerun" in next year. Research done, need more emulators to put in My project. Lesson for next year, leave a kid at home   ;) >:D

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« Reply #38 on: November 08, 2010, 06:22:34 pm »
I was gobsmacked by the sheer size and scale of this event. It must have taken a huge amount of organisation. Great job by all concerned.

I just cant begin to wonder where all those consoles and other hardware came from, it all just seemed to be there by some kind of magic.

Iain Lee is a natural choice for this show being a genuine games enthusiast, he has the honour of having played Space Invaders with its original Japanese author!




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Re: R3play Expo - Blackpool 6/7 Nov 2010 - Reviews and comments!
« Reply #39 on: November 09, 2010, 12:37:22 pm »
Sorry to everyone for not checking in earlier and apologies if I missed anyone's comments. Andy, thanks for the offer of trialling the new Aimtrak and I will be contacting you about trialling them very soon as we are ready to start building dedicated Light gun cabinets.

Thanks to everyone for your comments and I will be posting my full review of the show tonight.

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« Reply #40 on: November 11, 2010, 08:42:16 pm »
It's taken a few days to compile all our pictures and reflect on the event but here's my review of the R3play Expo 2010:

THE VENUE

Norbreck Castle's Norcalympia Hall was the setting, and I would say it was an ideal venue for this event. Blackpool is the UK's spiritual home of gaming so with it's abundance of hotels, easy accessibilty from all parts of the country and lots to do outside of the show, I couldn't have picked a better venue. Some members of other forums complained it should be more central, but even though somewhere like Birmingham is right on our doorstep, having a seaside event puts people in a better mood and I happen to know that places like the NEC are pricey, accessibilty is crap and Birmingham's a moody place at the best of times. Blackpool has a choice of hotels so all revellers had easy access by walking from their hotels and even though it was at the very northern end past the illuminations, this made parking easier for exhibitors and kept it out of the hustle and bustle of Blackpool's main golden mile.

The hotel itself was questionable quality, but they had lots of amenities and the Norcalympia Hall was clean and the perfect size. There was room for more exhibits but a bit of breathing space by the bar was handy with the volume of people at the show, and none of the exhibits had any pushing or shoving, even by people just watching others play. The stage setup was great and created a focal point for the show, and the additional corridor space made for a quieter experience when talking with the computer bods allocated rooms for their gear along the hallway. All in all a great choice of venue all round!

THE ORGANISATION AND ADVERTISING

The show itself was announced in plenty of time to organise exhibitors, make adequate press releases and promote the event, and a few friends of mine back home said they viewed ads for it in the least likely of places (a customer of ours found an ad in an in-flight magazine during the Summer!) It was a lot to handle though and with some uncertainties and changes (such as the last-minute pulling out of Gail Porter and withdrawal of some of the arcade cab exhibitors) I can understand why communication with exhibitors like us and lack of promotion in the couple of months before started to fall of a little. It's also why the floorplan changed so many times and some visitors were baffled by the lack of trader stalls as originally it was perceived to be more of a full expo with a 50% split of traders and exhibits. To be fair though, Console Passion covered most retro needs, retro t-shirts were available and we certainly had a lot of interest for cabinet orders.

Floor space allocation for the show was mostly OK, with things grouped logically (classic consoles on 1 row, multiplayer and modern gaming set to one side of the hall etc.), and although grumbled about feeling like they weren't part of the show, the cocktail cabinets, racing cabinets and pinball tables seemed very at home in the corridor behind the stage and the more techy people were allocated to rooms leading off there, which gave good opportunity to talk tech without being drowned out by the mic on stage; something I unfortunately lost my voice doing all weekend. Ours and Surface Tension's pitches seemed ideal from our perspective as there was plenty of room for visitors stopping by our stands and we could be seen from everywhere in the room, but I did get the feeling we were kind of dumped there as we had to daisy-chain power leads to get power to our machines. Not a bad layout overall, but the sponsors were treated a little too favourably and we found it difficult to promote our competition even though other competitions were promoted on the big screens. To be fair Dave did say he was grateful for the extra promoting of the show we did and would have liked to have helped us out more.

THE SHOW AND EXHIBITS

The best part about the whole event was the exhibits themselves. Tidy and well-serviced arcade machines, multiple common consoles to keep fond remembered games readily available, whilst rarer and less well-known machines were also left out with selections of games ready to try out. The N64 DD was a nice addition; Console Passion let you try out stuff before you bought (including a blue 'programmers' PS1, Tomy Viewmaster LCD games and other retro machines like Astro Wars and Scramble) and there were some setups that even seasoned gamers may not have experienced, such as multi-player Bomberman, Goldeneye and network-linked X-Boxes and PS2's.

The arcade side of things was a touch under-represented. There were some nice cabs from guys from the JAMMA+ forums as well as a nice selection of cocktail and candy cabs, but nothing really to shout about. Dave did say though that although the organisers offered to pick up and transport cabinets for free, some contributers pulled out with poor excuses and one collection of at least 10 machines didn't make it to the show. Even though a lot of visitors expected to play on some expected genuine machines, ST and us had enough on show to at least allow many of those games to be played with real arcade controls. Considering the initial interest here at BYOAC I would have expected a few more contributors and visitors, but then on the flipside of the coin this community wasn't asked directly so hopefully our input may change that for future events.

The newer console stands like the Wii and PS3 showcases and efforts from Sumo Digital and Sega added a touch more professional feel and they all got involved with the show and offered some great competition prizes. There were plenty of competitions and a raffle to give people opportunity to go home with sme memorabilia and feel really involved with the show. The record attempts and game creator presences (Ocean team, Archer Maclean etc.) made it a very 'involved' experience.

THE PEOPLE

This was my only mixed opinion on the weekend as a whole. On the whole, the organisers and visitors were very friendly people and it was very nice to finally put some faces to names of fellow forum members like Franco B, fellow hobbyist vendors like ST, and important community bods like Andy Warne. Many current and former customers also made themselves known as well as new facebook enthusiast friends and others who had been following us and the home build scene for a long time. Coupled with this, Dave Moore and the guys from the CGEU were a pleasure, host and comedian Iain Lee was very genuine and perfect for this event and guys like Chris Wilkins (Retrogamer magazine) and ex-developer staff like Archer and Jim Bagley were very pleasant and had decent talks with us. On the whole, many people were very interested both in our machines and in the 'build your own' scene and it was great to introduce newcomers to it. ST were very helpful and we helped each other out over the weekend and it was nice to discuss both casual interests and product ideas with guys like Dan and Andy W, as well as Andy over at Console Passion.

However, there is also a slight negative about people involved in and visiting the event, which became apparent the moment we arrived and reared it's head several times over the weekend. The organisers and main contributors to the show were mostly from the same online community and most were severe purists. This meant that there was a very obvious 'clique' that at times was a little unwelcoming and even a few very casual punters commented on. Whilst many were friendly, a few of the more serious purists and those more strongly attached to the clique did seem to frown on the emulation side of things. This is fine and I understand as many times we've had to prove ourselves as real enthusiasts and not just a business, but some individuals were downright rude when attempting conversation and it became obvious from the few things said that our side of the retro scene was frowned upon. One of ST's cabinets was damaged whilst his back was turned and someone intentionally messed with one of our machines, which may or may not have been a bit out of spite that our stalls garnered a lot of attention and although there were several breakdowns elsewhere, none of our machines experienced either mechanical or software faults the whole weekend.

Some of this may be paranoia, but everyone can't be friends and it's a safe bet on who was responsible for these issues. Aside from that, the majority of the people there were a delight and I thoroughly enjoyed the conversations I had with everyone there.

AS A BYOACer AND AS A TRADER

It was a successful event for us and we managed to do some useful networking at the event. We received several orders and did not feel isolated with at least a few other traders being present and helpful. For the most part the whole weekend had a very trustworthy feel and although some had little regard for the hardware (like going a little hard on controls or stacking beers all over cocktail cabinets), there was a general air of trust with games being left out unsupervised and even general members of the public who had just walked in on the day were very considerate. Andy at Console Passion said he did experience a few items go walkies but suspected it was mostly likely misplaced items by kids at the event or the exhibitors swapping and lending stuff round that they failed to keep track of. I would certainly exhibit and have a trade stall again and it would be nice next time to see a few more BYOACers or collectors donate their cabinets for a show, as there were no raised eyebrows about the emulation issues from the big names at this show. All I'd say is keep it sensible and people will respect the home-build side of arcade gaming.

As a BYOACer, I was a little disappointed that more members did not attend or attempt to contact the organisers about exhibiting. This kind of show is all about the roots of gaming that has us all involved in this hobby so I think it's important we get involved, regardless of the hardcore purists and whether directly invited or not. I will hopefully be getting a little more involved next year if a repeat show goes ahead so hopefully more members will respond to requests and have an input.

PICTURES FROM THE EVENT













OVERVIEW

The event was a great experience overall, with a perfect location, correct balance of old and new, good organisation and there was plenty on offer all weekend that meant no-one really had to wait and there was plenty to keep you entertained for hours at a time. Most people were great and the whole north end of Blackpool had a good vibe as you bumped into many visitors and exhibitors in the hotels and promenade on the approach to Norbreck. From what I understand the hotel owners were happy for the business after a slow Summer season and the event itself achieved close to the intended 2000 visitors over the course of the weekend. This is a positive outcome which from what I understand has already pretty much confirmed there will be another R3play show sometime next year.

The only downsides to the event were the apparent clique intimidating some people and the shaky organisation in the few weeks up to the show. There's also nothing can be done about the purists as they have their own opinion but the few bad apples who go out of their way to annoy or damage stuff we could do without. I found out a couple of former competitors were in attendance at the show who intended to cause problems but as they failed to present themselves in person it is not a concern and hopefully they can now see the level of commitment we have to our work and the hobby as a whole - if they don't then tough really and just don't bother coming next time!

I'll sign off by saying all our guys thoroughly enjoyed the whole weekend, made plenty of new friends and relished the opportunity to geek out with like-minded people. We are 100% in for future events and were glad to have been part of the whole experience!

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Re: R3play Expo - Blackpool 6/7 Nov 2010 - Reviews and comments!
« Reply #41 on: November 12, 2010, 05:26:06 am »
Yeah that's one thing I didn't mention before. The fact that people were so trusting just leaving cartridges piled up next to systems so people could swap games in and out at leisure.

I set my DK cab up so that it could not be exited to Windows at all from the CP. I even removed the mini keyboard and mouse from the cab so if someone did have a nosey inside the back door they couldn't affect anything. Not I thought anyone really would do that, but it seemed you had a problem when you went out to lunch.  :angry:

I seem to recall there was a problem between exhibitors regarding the coin-op expo in Northampton last year. I didn't go to that one (wish I had really) but I suppose there will always be a bit of rivalry in some quarters. It can be healthy at times regarding competition but people need to accept that we all contribute to the gaming and retro scene and none of us is going to go away.

For a first show this was an astounding success. It can only get bigger. I'm only a hobbyist but I intend to take at least three Mame based systems next year.

I'd be interested in what Andy at Ultimarc thought too. He doesn't sell full systems ofc but does supply unique parts for the hobbyists. Not sure if there would be enough of those type of punters for him to have a stand there though. The BYOAC type of machine wasn't too prevalent really. Aside from Turnarcades and Surface tension I think there was only one other Mame based system (apart from mine) which was that little black and yellow bartop right in front of the stage. I didn't see any other emulation based machines there but I could be wrong.

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« Reply #42 on: November 12, 2010, 07:37:22 pm »
I totally agree with Craig, it was a perfect place for the venue, and we had adequate room to play around in.  The 40 odd players in the 1941 game was a blast that was on the stage, and all the old consoles (including that battle mech setup (with all the switches and levers all hooked up to an original xbox was pretty cool.  It took like forever to start it up, but the guy who brought it was really nice and gave a tutorial on how to work it.



Craig's machines were next to those low height coffee table arcade cabinets that were really badly designed.  The control panels were not very stable and there was virtually no legroom on the big one, so much so that you would get some nasty neck and lower back pain (I did) after playing on them for a typical session.  The smaller one control panel was so bad, that the top of  the panel would fly up if you pulled up on the joystick.  The rep that was there was a nice enough guy though.  The rubic cube seats were cool.  I could not see myself playing counter stike on it.



But there were consoles, and more consoles, and a Famicom.  A Japanese Gamecube that looked like a HTPC, and countless others I have owned or have played on during the 30 odd years.  I was amazed that so many carts were just left in boxes and loads of discs laying around to play on.  We spotted four PS2s with HDD game loaded on.  The guy who worked them took fright we were poking around, and said he had an original of the Time Crisis game we were playing.  We then asked him if he had the rest of the 160 games installed on the HDDs in his backpack... :laugh2:




Craig's Machines were pretty cool, all finished and painted, as they looked much better in real life than in previous photos.  The controls were very responsive, and the layout was evenly spaced , so it wasn't uncomfortable to play on.  It would have been nice to see more bartops but maybe next year eh Craig?




I liked the ROMS disclosure you had in the lower left of the cabinet.  Considering what was ripped on other machines at the show, nobody took any notice or even cared. Marvelous!

Looking forward to next year, especially the tombola.

If the organizers are listening...Can we have a place for the Talks next year that isn't in a public place?  I could not hear that Dropzone guy for the life of me through all that heavy rain on glass during his interview.   ::)  Thanks.
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« Reply #43 on: November 12, 2010, 07:46:05 pm »
Yeah that's one thing I didn't mention before. The fact that people were so trusting just leaving cartridges piled up next to systems so people could swap games in and out at leisure.

I set my DK cab up so that it could not be exited to Windows at all from the CP. I even removed the mini keyboard and mouse from the cab so if someone did have a nosey inside the back door they couldn't affect anything. Not I thought anyone really would do that, but it seemed you had a problem when you went out to lunch.  :angry:

I seem to recall there was a problem between exhibitors regarding the coin-op expo in Northampton last year. I didn't go to that one (wish I had really) but I suppose there will always be a bit of rivalry in some quarters. It can be healthy at times regarding competition but people need to accept that we all contribute to the gaming and retro scene and none of us is going to go away.

For a first show this was an astounding success. It can only get bigger. I'm only a hobbyist but I intend to take at least three Mame based systems next year.

I'd be interested in what Andy at Ultimarc thought too. He doesn't sell full systems ofc but does supply unique parts for the hobbyists. Not sure if there would be enough of those type of punters for him to have a stand there though. The BYOAC type of machine wasn't too prevalent really. Aside from Turnarcades and Surface tension I think there was only one other Mame based system (apart from mine) which was that little black and yellow bartop right in front of the stage. I didn't see any other emulation based machines there but I could be wrong.

Ahh that was your mini DK machine?

We were really interested in your airflow design for that cab.  We noticed how hot it was at the back and we wanted to know if you had a fan at the top on the cab, or just the one out the back.

Loved playing on it, and all the four way games that was on it like Mr Do and Frogger.

Thanks for bringing it.  :cheers:
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« Reply #44 on: November 13, 2010, 02:29:51 am »
Yeah that's one thing I didn't mention before. The fact that people were so trusting just leaving cartridges piled up next to systems so people could swap games in and out at leisure.

I set my DK cab up so that it could not be exited to Windows at all from the CP. I even removed the mini keyboard and mouse from the cab so if someone did have a nosey inside the back door they couldn't affect anything. Not I thought anyone really would do that, but it seemed you had a problem when you went out to lunch.  :angry:

I seem to recall there was a problem between exhibitors regarding the coin-op expo in Northampton last year. I didn't go to that one (wish I had really) but I suppose there will always be a bit of rivalry in some quarters. It can be healthy at times regarding competition but people need to accept that we all contribute to the gaming and retro scene and none of us is going to go away.

For a first show this was an astounding success. It can only get bigger. I'm only a hobbyist but I intend to take at least three Mame based systems next year.

I'd be interested in what Andy at Ultimarc thought too. He doesn't sell full systems ofc but does supply unique parts for the hobbyists. Not sure if there would be enough of those type of punters for him to have a stand there though. The BYOAC type of machine wasn't too prevalent really. Aside from Turnarcades and Surface tension I think there was only one other Mame based system (apart from mine) which was that little black and yellow bartop right in front of the stage. I didn't see any other emulation based machines there but I could be wrong.

Ahh that was your mini DK machine?

We were really interested in your airflow design for that cab.  We noticed how hot it was at the back and we wanted to know if you had a fan at the top on the cab, or just the one out the back.

Loved playing on it, and all the four way games that was on it like Mr Do and Frogger.

Thanks for bringing it.  :cheers:

When I first built that cab it had a mini-ITX board with Intel Ion processor using on-board graphics. They have passive cooling on the processor and so it never even got warm. But unfortunately on-board graphics just weren't enough. I'd compiled my own Mame with a permanent black bezel all round to make the screen area smaller to fit the cab. That coupled with scanlines was just a little too much for the on-board GPU and so games wouldn't play at 100%. So I pulled it out and used an Athlon XP 2400+ system I had spare with Radeon 9800 Pro graphics card. (I could have just got an old PCI card for the Intel board but I'll save that now for another project  ;))

With this system it did get hot in there. And this was before I put that fan on the rear door! There were no case fans at all previously. Once I put that fan on the back door it helped a lot. I don't think it gets "hot" any more, just warm. I can tell when I place my hand on the side of the cabinet near the base. It's nowhere near as bad as it used to be. That's the only case fan by the way.

Having said that it was running for 10 hours solid which it never is at home. It broke down right at the end of the first day and I attributed it to overheating. But it was the U360 PCB breaking where the USB lead plugs in. It was completely my own fault as it was my bad design inside which caused it. Basically the USB socket where the lead plugs in was being pushed against every time it was played on. This put great strain on the pins on the PCB and they eventually gave way. I only discovered it once I got the cab home and investigated further. All fixed now though.  :P

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« Reply #45 on: November 13, 2010, 04:38:44 am »
From what I've been reading, it's pretty much definitely on for next year. We're working on new prototypes and demo cabinets for our new showroom, so we'll have a lot more prepared for next year's show. With any luck, we'll have a full-size virtual pinball table, pc and console-based racing cabinets, upright console-based cabinets and a few Bar-tops to bring for a tournament I've got in mind.

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« Reply #46 on: November 13, 2010, 11:16:17 am »
Having said that it was running for 10 hours solid which it never is at home. It broke down right at the end of the first day and I attributed it to overheating. But it was the U360 PCB breaking where the USB lead plugs in. It was completely my own fault as it was my bad design inside which caused it. Basically the USB socket where the lead plugs in was being pushed against every time it was played on. This put great strain on the pins on the PCB and they eventually gave way. I only discovered it once I got the cab home and investigated further. All fixed now though.  Tongue

I was totally impressed with the U360.  The control on such a small cab was really good, so much so I want to add them in my future builds.  Maybe Andy from Ultimarc could have a stand at next year's show?  Also maybe could we have vendors that took card payments?  Cash only is great but no protection if the gear you are buying ends up not working later on.  That console vendor had good prices for the older kit, but.....  ;D
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« Reply #47 on: November 13, 2010, 02:48:32 pm »

We thought about having a stand at the Northampton show last year but didnt. We were glad we didnt as it would have been largely a waste of time because we would not really have fitted in with the type of event it was.
Thats one of the reasons we didnt take one at the Blackpool show but seeing the show I think we are getting closer as it was such an impressive event. Maybe next year.

Craig mentioned an anti-Mame feeling amongst some other people. To be honest I thought this would happen and not surprised at all. This will always be a problem with the nature of Mame. I think if I were exhibiting cabinets I would stick with running PC games. After all its the cabinet thats being shown not Mame.

Several years ago at ATE (which admittedly is a trade show), one of our customers had a stand and I was rather worried to see him running Mame in his tabletops. I spoke to him later and sure enough the people on some of the other stands went ballistic when they found out and basically closed him down with threats of legal action. He is no longer in the business. That was an extreme example and unlikely to happen to that extent at the type of enthusiast show that R3Play is.

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Re: R3play Expo - Blackpool 6/7 Nov 2010 - Reviews and comments!
« Reply #48 on: November 16, 2010, 06:11:08 pm »

We thought about having a stand at the Northampton show last year but didnt. We were glad we didnt as it would have been largely a waste of time because we would not really have fitted in with the type of event it was.
Thats one of the reasons we didnt take one at the Blackpool show but seeing the show I think we are getting closer as it was such an impressive event. Maybe next year.

Craig mentioned an anti-Mame feeling amongst some other people. To be honest I thought this would happen and not surprised at all. This will always be a problem with the nature of Mame. I think if I were exhibiting cabinets I would stick with running PC games. After all its the cabinet thats being shown not Mame.

Several years ago at ATE (which admittedly is a trade show), one of our customers had a stand and I was rather worried to see him running Mame in his tabletops. I spoke to him later and sure enough the people on some of the other stands went ballistic when they found out and basically closed him down with threats of legal action. He is no longer in the business. That was an extreme example and unlikely to happen to that extent at the type of enthusiast show that R3Play is.

I am of the belief, that your products would be best shown on cabinets running on mainboards than Mame.  You would be demonstrating your controllers than the Mame cabinet side of things. You could always have a PC running Legal classics. No disrespect to Craig, but I agree Mame belongs at home and not in the wild.  Unfortunately not many people would be interested in one game home cabinets, unless it was a restoration job like Tron or StarWars.
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