ok, nm. i forgot about the port 2's going to port 1 when in 1 player mode. so i can connect them all seperate.
if i can get the opti to work now.
has anyone ever had the opti not install cuz xp insists on using exact drivers?
it only detects it as 1 mouse, and then it wont work with the "HID compliant mouse".
on my other comp (which has now been formated) i remember it installing the HID compliant and some EP2 thing that i cant find now

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this has just not been my day.