Author Topic: I need a large lazy susan. Do they make one? (Read 8240 times)

unclet · « **on:** July 30, 2003, 09:33:00 am »

I most likely need to purchase a large lazy susan to allow my TV to rotate. I tried a 12" diameter one but would like a bigger diameter one since the stuff I am putting on top of the lazy susan is very heavy and the two pieces of 3/4" MDF wood (used to operate the lazy susan) are almost touching. I thought if I could get a larger than 12" (maybe 15" or more lazy susan) than this would solve my problem.

Does anyone know where I can get a real big one? Do they even make a lazy susan bigger than 12"?

Please send me some links if possible...

Thanks
UncleT

Birdtales · « **Reply #1 on:** July 30, 2003, 09:53:41 am »

Not sure if a lazy susan is the way I would go for a TV. TV's are pretty heavy. How about a TV swivel? There a little more pricey but should work better for your cabinet.

Here's one, I found hundreds of different ones typing "TV swivel" in Google.

http://www.123av.com/DetailPage.asp?ProductID=TNT-01

hyiu · « **Reply #2 on:** July 30, 2003, 09:55:11 am »

I thought Home depot carries large lazy susan...

I donno exactly how large, but they claim it supports 1000lb.
that should be enough for most monitors (and whatever you put on...).....

unclet · « **Reply #3 on:** July 30, 2003, 10:07:20 am »

It looks like a TV swivel is simply some wood with a lazy susan in between.....correct? I just need the lazy susan.

I tried the 12" Home Depot (1000lb rated) lazy susan. The weight is not the problem. The problem is that I need a larger surface area for the lazy susan since the corners of the wood which the TV rests on is almost touching the bottom stationary piece of wood. Since I am already using 3/4" MDF, I can not get a thicker wood to solve the sagging corner problem, so I thought if I got a larger lazy susan with more surfadce area (ie: not 12" rounf, but possibly 15" round), then that would help with my sagging corner problems...

Basically, the TV sits on the rotating piece of wood and poart of the TV sits where the lazy susan is not directly underneath, so the corners are sagging.

dag2000 · « **Reply #4 on:** July 30, 2003, 10:29:45 am »

Rockler.com is an excellent source for cabinetry items.

http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/showdetl.cfm?&DID=6&Offerings_ID=10514&ObjectGroup_ID=349&CATID=19

or

http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/showdetl.cfm?&DID=6&Offerings_ID=2272&ObjectGroup_ID=349&CATID=19

unclet · « **Reply #5 on:** July 30, 2003, 10:40:58 am »

I looked through rockler.com and the only one which they have which would work for me is a 17-1/2" lazy susan (330lb load) for $67 ($56 + $11 shipping).

Seems like too much money to spend for a lazy susan. I wish Home Depot had larger ones than 12", since the 12" one was around $10 and was rated for 1000lbs.

I actually just found one at www.leevalley.com which is just like the rockler.com 17-1/2" one for a total of $50 (that includes shipping). That is $17 less than rockler and looks like same thing.

http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?SID=&page=44014&category=1%2C250%2C43298%

This is good, but I was hoping to find one around $30 at most....I will keep looking.

AlanS17 · « **Reply #6 on:** July 30, 2003, 12:09:15 pm »

Quote from: dag2000 on July 30, 2003, 10:29:45 am

Rockler.com is an excellent source for cabinetry items.

http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/showdetl.cfm?&DID=6&Offerings_ID=10514&ObjectGroup_ID=349&CATID=19

or

http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/showdetl.cfm?&DID=6&Offerings_ID=2272&ObjectGroup_ID=349&CATID=19

*heart attack*

Those would be perfect for a 19" rotating monitor if they weren't soooo expensive.

Maybe some day when I get bored with my own setup...

Brax · « **Reply #7 on:** July 30, 2003, 12:21:44 pm »

Ikea has some pretty big premade ones if Home Depot doesn't have what you need. It's worth a try. They're cheap too. I have a smaller one for my 19' tv I think it was 10 bucks.

unclet · « **Reply #8 on:** July 30, 2003, 12:54:32 pm »

What is Ikea?

I went to www.ikea.com but that does not seem to be related to lazy susan stuff.

BobA · « **Reply #9 on:** July 30, 2003, 01:23:00 pm »

That is the link. They sell furniture and accessories. The TV swivels are part of the accessories.

BobA

unclet · « **Reply #10 on:** July 30, 2003, 01:30:41 pm »

I looked again, but can not find anything.

I just realized that I defintely need to lazy susan (not a swivel) since a lazy susan has a round hole in the center for wires to go through and a swivel does not. With a swivel, the wires would get wound around the TV, while the lazy susan, the wire could go down the center of the lazy susan and would not get all wound up when the TV rotates.....

grafixmonkey · « **Reply #11 on:** July 30, 2003, 02:04:02 pm »

Maybe you could knock over a chinese restaurant?

Hoagie_one · « **Reply #12 on:** July 30, 2003, 02:11:12 pm »

how about a 17 1/2"

hyiu · « **Reply #13 on:** July 30, 2003, 02:13:49 pm »

ikea web site is a strange place...

if you go to the site itself.. its not easy to search thru all the products...

try these:

http://www.ikea.com/product_presentation/show.asp?productnumber=97158606&type=ART

http://www.ikea.com/product_presentation/show.asp?productnumber=00043434&type=ART

if it doesn't work... try doing a google search "ikea lazy susan"... then you'll come back with some product page inside ikea that has it....

good luck...

ps: how about a metal plate on top of your HD lazy susan ??... a metal plate of some little thickness should handle it better than wood....
(just a thought...)

unclet · « **Reply #14 on:** July 30, 2003, 02:19:38 pm »

Thanks for the link hyiu, but I know see that Ikea lazy susans will not work. I do not believe those lazy susans would hold the weight I need it to.

However, I do like you metal idea..... I will probably look into that as well.

hyiu · « **Reply #15 on:** July 30, 2003, 02:35:34 pm »

or depends on your space.... if you can afford to lose some space.... you might be able to like sandwich a layer of metal with wood... (or metal bars for support)...

I once built a tv stand by plywood....
to make sure it doesn't cave in if I put a big TV on top...
I put 2 metal bars for support below the surface....
(and I can literally put whatever on top and jump and stuffs and it will not shake a bit.....

Hoagie_one · « **Reply #16 on:** July 30, 2003, 02:56:23 pm »

Hope you didnt miss the link for the 17 1/2 " one I posted just above. Expensive but exactly what you asked for

Brax · « **Reply #17 on:** July 30, 2003, 03:27:58 pm »

You want the wires to go through the middle..... Firstly, it wouldn't be hard to drill through the wood. Secondly just how do you think you're going to balance the tv on it if you want to run the wires through the middle and can't cover it up?

Simple, you'll route a channel in your wood so the wires can go through the wood in the middle. You can still achieve this with a complete lazy susan.

Whatever floats your boat. It doesn't seem like a very hard problem to solve. *shrug*

AlanS17 · « **Reply #18 on:** July 30, 2003, 03:37:48 pm »

Do keep in mind that some lazy susans have a totally enclosed center and some (like the ones shown here) have an open center. I'm not talking about the wooden panel over it, either. I mean the metal underneath - the actual lazy susan.

On another note, if anybody can find one of those big 23 5/8" lazy susans like this one:

http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/showdetl.cfm?&DID=6&Offerings_ID=10514&ObjectGroup_ID=349&CATID=19

...for a reasonable price I would most certainly be interested. I think $150 is out of my price range.

hyiu · « **Reply #19 on:** July 30, 2003, 04:15:50 pm »

hmmm..... try looking into restaurants supplies stores...

I know Chinese restaurants uses these huge lazy susans... (and I think they didn't pay $150 each for them....)

I've done a quick search but nothing comes up....

when I have time, I'll search a little more...

AlanS17 · « **Reply #20 on:** July 30, 2003, 04:18:18 pm »

Chinese restaurants? I guess I hadn't noticed... I'll have to check it out. I think a 23 5/8" would be the perfect size for a rotating 19" monitor in my cab. That's about the inside length between the sidewalls.

unclet · « **Reply #21 on:** July 31, 2003, 09:37:14 am »

Hoagie_one: I missed the link, but opened it right now. I saw this one before. After shipping is added it comes to $67.....to expensive. I found a similiar one from www.leevalley.com (Item #1ZK6817) which total $50 (includes shipping). I might get this one if the metal bar (or sheet of thick metal) idea does not work. Thanks for looking....

Brax: I was happy to find out that when the TV sits flat on it's own base, that there is enough clearance to feed the wires beneath the base (IE: the TV will not be crunching the wires). Pretty lucky I know....but this allows me to have the wies go through a centered hole right in the middle beneath the TV, so when the TV spins, the wires will not get wound around the TV. Although the channel idea would work as well, I just did not need to do that.

AlanS17 and hyiu: Keep me posted if you find a reasonablly price large lazy susan from a restaurant.

grafixmonkey · « **Reply #22 on:** July 31, 2003, 11:21:47 am »

Hey are you mounting your lazy suzan normally (sitting on something w/ TV on top) or horizontally (on side of box w/ TV taped to the side of it)?

Will a lazy suzan work sideways?

oh, and just go out for chinese food at a place that isn't a buffet. Look at the tables, if no lazy suzans go looking for the next rextaurant. They may have gone out of style since the 90's. I do know they can hold 8 to 12 large dinners worth of saucy, deep-fried, spicy goodness. Bring your wife, or a date, and have her discreetly put it in her purse on the way out....

unclet · « **Reply #23 on:** July 31, 2003, 11:43:31 am »

Funny..........of course if it is too big to fit in her purse, maybe she can stuff it in her pants and "walk" out

My lazy susan will be mounted normally on a flat horizontal surface. It would not seem possible to use a conventional lazy susan for vertical mounting. Also, I doubt restaurant lazy susans would be able to handle the weight of a TV. I know people sell plastic lazy susan type rings which can carry a load up to 30lbs only...which is more than enough for 8 -> 12 dinners though...

hyiu · « **Reply #24 on:** July 31, 2003, 01:24:37 pm »

the lazy susan restaurant uses should be able to handle at least 200-300 lb....

its exactly like the expensive one in 1 of the above links... just 2 metal circles with ball bearings....

whether we can find a shop that sells it cheap is another question....

anyway... how big is your tv ?? how heavy is it ?? what else are you putting on it ??...

unclet · « **Reply #25 on:** July 31, 2003, 01:48:47 pm »

Everything which needs to be spinning:

- Wooden box to hold TV, Xbox, Marquee and speakers
- 27" JVC TV
- Xbox/controllers
- marquee light
- speakers

All of this stuff is fixed to a box whose bottom MDF wood piece will be attached to a lazy susan so it all spins around. The idea is, when no one is using the driving Mame cabinet, then the TV can be spun around and people can watch normal TV on it (or play XBox games while not sitting in the arcade chair) from a near by sofa.

_Iz- · « **Reply #26 on:** July 31, 2003, 01:59:40 pm »

Quote from: unclet on July 30, 2003, 10:07:20 am

It looks like a TV swivel is simply some wood with a lazy susan in between.....correct? I just need the lazy susan.

I tried the 12" Home Depot (1000lb rated) lazy susan. The weight is not the problem. The problem is that I need a larger surface area for the lazy susan since the corners of the wood which the TV rests on is almost touching the bottom stationary piece of wood. Since I am already using 3/4" MDF, I can not get a thicker wood to solve the sagging corner problem, so I thought if I got a larger lazy susan with more surfadce area (ie: not 12" rounf, but possibly 15" round), then that would help with my sagging corner problems...

Basically, the TV sits on the rotating piece of wood and poart of the TV sits where the lazy susan is not directly underneath, so the corners are sagging.

You need stiffer material to prevent the sagging. Use plywood instead of MDF.

AlanS17 · « **Reply #27 on:** July 31, 2003, 02:01:23 pm »

Those bearings sets with interlocking rings should be able to do the job. They can't handle quite as much as some other since rings of that size are usually made with aluminum. However, they are still rated at like 300 or 400 pounds. I only need it to support probably 50 or 60. On a vertical axis it really should be fine (I hope).

I'm gonna try some local restaurant supply places locally. Couldn't find one from the supply stores online.

hyiu · « **Reply #28 on:** July 31, 2003, 02:02:15 pm »

maybe you could try this....
(since you said the lazy susan is good enough... just the wood is not strong enough...)

now... the bottom piece... I think you should try to use plywood (3/4 in) instead of MDF.... HD also carry hardwood also.....

then.... now... plz give me some patience and I'll try my best in ascii drawing....

tvtvtvtvtvtvtvtvtvtvtv
tv tv
tv tv
tv tv
tv tv
tv tv
tv tv
m tvtvtvtvtvtvtvtvtvtvtv m
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
sssssssssssssss

s - lazy susan
w - wood
m - metal rod
tv - tv

now.... this is the side view.... but basically....
you buy some metal rods and you screw/wrap surrounding the edge of the bottom piece to give support.
it doesn't have to be 2 rods like what I show here... but could be on all 4 sides.....

you could use those pipe wraps that can be tightened....
or better yet.... I believe HD has up to 1 inch hardwood which I think will be strong enough....

it seems like your problem is not the lazy susan... but the bottom piece of wood.... so... see if this can help....

all you risk is maybe $10 in a piece of hardwood... and maybe another $10 in metal rods/pipes/whatever.... still comes out better than a new lazy susan....


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