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Positional guns on Ebay...
« on: May 17, 2002, 10:11:07 am »
Here are some ebay auctions I found for positional guns. The operation thunderbolt guns look pretty sweet, and I buy a pair, but I'm low on cash. I thought someone here might be interested. These aren't my auctions BTW.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2103615739

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2103015012

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2103024554

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2103026541
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Re: Positional guns on Ebay...
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2002, 11:13:39 am »
I bought a mechenized attack gun thinking it was posisitonal and its not.  Its an optical.  I think all of the ones you listed are optical.  Only ones I know of that are really positional is Crossbow (which actually isn't even a gun).  :P

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Positional guns
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2002, 11:47:35 am »
Steel Gunner had positional guns and so did Terminator 2.   I'm not sure about other games noe because some do look like exactly like the positional guns but turn out to be optical.  KLOV.com has even been wrong on this at least once.
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Re: Positional guns on Ebay...
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2002, 12:07:32 pm »
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I bought a mechenized attack gun thinking it was posisitonal and its not.
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Re: Positional guns on Ebay...
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2002, 12:18:47 pm »
by optical, do you mean that inside, it's closer to a mouse/trackball compared to a 5kpot joystick?

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Re: Positional guns on Ebay...
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2002, 01:28:44 pm »
 No, the gun gets position information by comparing when the optics pick up the electron-beam to the beam's position on the screen.  It's the same system Act-Labs is using in their new guns.
 It is not something you could easily hack into your PC though.
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Re: Positional guns
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2002, 01:35:52 pm »
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Re: Positional guns on Ebay...
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2002, 04:40:54 pm »
Are you sure that the majority of these guns are optical then...

because it wouldn't make much sense.  The T2 model of having a 5k joystick on the base that you twist left/right instead of lean left/right will always work with anything attached to the control panel.

I just don't understand why they would go through and add optics to something that doesn't need it in the least.
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Re: Positional guns on Ebay...
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2002, 08:07:04 am »
Optical systems are actually fairly cheap to produce, don't have parts that will wear, and no calibration is required.
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Re: Positional guns on Ebay...
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2002, 08:09:38 am »
Are you sure Operation Thunderbolt is optical? This ebay auction shows a positional gun. Look closely at the photo and you can see the round potentiometer.  

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2103746161

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Re: Positional guns on Ebay...
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2002, 09:34:09 am »
Operation Thunder is definately a positional.  Its a joystick.

But pods are much cheaper to create and program for then a any optical solution I've ever heard of.  And there isnt' any calibration at all.

If you notice when you play operation thunder in an arcade... the guns don't actually line up to the dot on the screen.  Net really ment to.
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Re: Positional guns on Ebay...
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2002, 12:27:11 pm »
Bahh! The pair of Op Thunderbolt guns sold for a mere $17!!!
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