Gauntlet Legends pedestal and control panel

[jeelani]

I found a Gauntlet Legends pedestal and control panel and I am considering buying it.  There is no pcb or anything included.  The guy wants me to make an offer, what do you guys think its worth?  Also has anyone modified the control panel?  I am thinking that it wouldnt be too hard.  Can the gray plastic housing for the control panel be painted?  How can I make use of the built in speakers?  I need to make a decision quick so I look forward to getting some advice.  BTW, I am planning on using a standalone LCD with the control panel/pedestal.

[Manre Boo]

Could you clarify little bit. Maybe if you got picture you could link it, it would be helpfull.
Plastic can be painted if that is what you are asking.
 What do you mean by how can you make use of build in speakers? Do you mean how to wire them to computer or? It depends if the speakers are active or passive (do they need an amplifier). If ampilier is there just give it power and hook speakers to any audio output and you got sound. If they are passive or amplifier is removed you need to add amplifier.

I have never seen that arcade cabinet alive but I try help if possible
 Can't say about prices but seller should allways say price.
I don't personally respect much sellers who ask me to tell price and when i say, they say its too low.
 So offer him low price, if he declines then ask him to stop playing games and tell you how much that cabinet is, after that you can decide if its worth it.

[bkenobi]

Keep in mind that the CP includes 4 players withi 3 buttons and a 49-way joystick each.  You will probably want to add more buttons to start with, but the joysticks are the key here.  If you use the sticks that come with the cab, you will need to get 4 GP-Wiz49 controllers (or something similar).  You will then need at least 1 other controller for the buttons.  Alternately, you could try to sell the 49-way sticks and install something else that you prefer (and doesn't require so many controllers).   

[mwong168]

The OP is probably referring to this, which was used in a custom cab build by another member on here named Paladin.  Here are some images from his project.





There are speakers in the area on both sides of the picture above the player controls.  To drive the speakers you could buy something like this from ebay like I did.  I plan on wiring this up to a set of car speakers later when I finish my showcase cabinet as opposed to gutting an existing set of Logitech 2.1 or 5.1 speakers.




With regards to the control panel you could always re-drill the control panel as best as you can to suit your button layout and put on new artwork if the existing art doesn't come off easily and then put a piece of plexi and you should be good to go I think.  I was thinking you could reuse the joystock positions for P2 and P3 but P1 and P4 would make for very awkward viewing angles.  Perhaps Paladin will chime in and give you some advice.

[garnerb350]

If its gutted (completely) offer 200 (max)...make it seem like it isnt worth the hassle...Play that game back at him...

[bkenobi]

Gutted could mean nothing but the wood and side art or it could mean no board but includes everything else (monitor, control panel, power junk, marquee, etc).  If you can sell off the stuff you don't need, you can offset some of the cost of the cabinet. 

If it's completely gutted (wood only), I'd think $200 is pretty steep.  On the other hand, you will spend that much plus time to get an empty shell, so... 

[CheffoJeffo]

I am presuming that it is the pedestal from



It's worth pretty much nothing, other than the potential resale value of included parts.

In the past year, locally, I've seen a number of folks who couldn't GIVE AWAY wooden showcase pedestals that are far more easily modified than that duramold on the GL.

If you are rushed and need to make a decision quicker than you would like, then the right answer here is to walk away.

There is ALWAYS another cabinet and unless you have found a Maneater or 2-player Computer Space, then you don't need to rush to "make an offer". Don't let yourself be manipulated (pretty much all of the oldtimers will admit to having had similar tactics used against them in the past).

 

EDIT: As far as actually answering the original question -- $20-30 tops.

[mwong168]

I found a Gauntlet Legends pedestal and control panel and I am considering buying it.  There is no pcb or anything included.  

Gutted could mean nothing but the wood and side art or it could mean no board but includes everything else (monitor, control panel, power junk, marquee, etc).  If you can sell off the stuff you don't need, you can offset some of the cost of the cabinet.  

If it's completely gutted (wood only), I'd think $200 is pretty steep.  On the other hand, you will spend that much plus time to get an empty shell, so...  

Assuming if the OP is getting the pedestal that is pictured on the left here there will be no side art, monitor, marquee, etc.  Now how big of an LCD were you planning on using because the whole reason behind having a pedestal or Dynamo showcase layout is to put viewing distance between the player and the screen.  Dynamo showcase cabinets typically were (30" or greater in size IIRC).  $200 is pretty steep but not bad if the wood pedestal portion and T-molding is in good shape.  Then all you would have to do is slap a fresh new coat of paint on it and you should be good to go.  Now other things to consider with the showcase setup it how to join the pedestal part to the other half with the monitor.  

Again, I am going to link some more of Paladin's build so you can get a more clear picture of the final outcome.



Honestly a pedestal isn't that hard or expensive to make if you have the measurements, tools, experience and skill.  My brother in-law made my pedestal for my 4 player control panel in like 30 mins.  1 sheet of 4x8 MDF cost like $25 from homedepot and I had tons leftover to do my control panel top as well.





If I was to buy this I would lowball $50    To give you a little bit more perspective, I could have bought this gutted Rampage showcase cabinet for $75cdn off kijiji




If I had seen this before I started mine I would have been all over it.  I've will probably spend that much in MDF, T-molding and paint in the end.  I spent $50 alone for my coin door     Not to mention how much time it would have saved me but oh well.  The whole process of making everything from scratch has been lots of fun and a learning experience everytime.

[CheffoJeffo]

Assuming if the OP is getting the pedestal that is pictured on the left here there will be no side art, monitor, marquee, etc.  Now how big of an LCD were you planning on using because the whole reason behind having a pedestal or Dynamo showcase layout is to put viewing distance between the player and the screen.  Dynamo showcase cabinets typically were (30" or greater in size IIRC).  $200 is pretty steep but not bad if the wood pedestal portion and T-molding is in good shape.  

Which wood pedestal and t-molding would you be referring to ?

I only ask because the pedestal on the GL showcase had neither.

[mwong168]

Which wood pedestal and t-molding would you be referring to ?

I only ask because the pedestal on the GL showcase had neither.

The pedestal you posted looks like it has round corners so won't have T-molding but the one I posted clearly has T-molding on the monitor half so only assuming the pedestal has T-molding too.  Again hard to tell on mine since the pedestal is white and very poorly scanned in.  In all honesty I think if the OP can snag this for $100 or less it would be worth it because like I said before, a decent coin door in mint shape runs anywhere I've seen from $30-50 plus shipping.  I got lucky with my coin door for $50 and didn't have to pay shipping because the guy was coming to a doctor's convention near the Toronto airport so I met up with him 2 weeks after I enquired and picked it up along with my HAPP trackball.

I think I spent close to $30 for my T-molding for my pedestal and control panel and still have to order more when I start the monitor half of my build.  The only problem is I don't have time and because I have something for my TV to sit on and the control panel is 100% wired and working I have been lazy.



I think instead of following the jakobud showcase plans I am going to make my monitor half suited for a corner since it will help save space.  I am also on the lookout for FREE CRT TV's on craiglist or kijiji in my area that are 32"-36".  I missed out on someone giving away a mint 36" Sony Wega with stand for FREE.  The thing probably weighed like 250lbs but hey it's FREE    right now my Panasonic is only 27" and my daughter is getting to the age where she will be getting into her own room and out of the crib in our room so she will been a TV to watch her Baby Einstein on.

[garnerb350]

I agree 200 is steap...but i just threw that out there, because I'm just going off this...

"I found a Gauntlet Legends pedestal and control panel and I am considering buying it.  There is no pcb or anything included."

No pics nothing...

If it is just the pedestal and control panel, no electronics, nothing...then yeah...say 50-75...

[CheffoJeffo]

In all honesty I think if the OP can snag this for $100 or less it would be worth it because like I said before, a decent coin door in mint shape runs anywhere I've seen from $30-50 plus shipping.  I got lucky with my coin door for $50 and didn't have to pay shipping because the guy was coming to a doctor's convention near the Toronto airport so I met up with him 2 weeks after I enquired and picked it up along with my HAPP trackball.

You're local to me and apparently missed out on those free showcases I was talking about. Perhaps you weren't that lucky after all. 

[jeelani]

Thanks for the replies.  The guy was selling the entire showcase cab with nothing inside of it except the 33" screen for 300.  I asked him if he would part out just the control panel and pedestal and he told me to make an offer.  I was planning on replacing the control panel face and putting new buttons and joysticks on.  I was going to wire it to 2 gamecube pcb's and use it with my Wii to play emulated console games as well as SDL MAME Wii.  The guy is in Atlanta and I was considering picking it up when I went back home next week.

I dont think I am going to get the unit.  I just found a Ms Pacman / Galaga cabaret locally and I am about to go pick it up now.  The guy is trading for my PS3 which I dont even play.  I guess this will do for now, but I would like to play horizontal jamma games tho.  I was still considering to pick up the pedestal and control panel to save for a future project, but I think I am just gonna focus on the cabaret for now.  I will post a thread for that when I return.

Thanks guys.

[bkenobi]

If it were me, I wouldn't buy a pedestal that had no useful parts.  If you are planning on replacing the joysticks, CP top, repainting, more buttons, etc, you aren't saving yourself that much time/money over just building the thing from scratch.  Well, I might pay up to $25 if it included the T-molding in the correct color for me AND included a coin door (if that matters).  A pedestal isn't that difficult to build, so it's not worth that much IMO.

On the other hand, I must admit that both of my cabinets cost me nothing, so I may just be cheap!   

[Paladin]

Did someone mention my name?

I think you did good to avoid the pedestal.  The 49 way sticks make using it for MAME a pain, I never did get around to it.  The Gauntlet Legacy parts I built the cabinet for included the large monitor that was medium resolution only, another pain to use for MAME.  The showcase cabs take up a huge amount of space both in width and length, so if you're planning on collecting more than one cabinet I'd stay away.

Tom