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[Comtek]

i just recently done a logitech trackball hack
it works OK but nothing like the arcade feel
i just done a ps2 style usb joystick hack
it works OK but i found it alot easier to use a ipac
presently i have a mouse tore apart I'm gonna try and make a home made spinner
i never done any of these cuz they were easier or better and as far as cheaper include just minimum wage for half your time and it outways anything you'll save
as far as reliability i can tell Right now that these are not gonna last very long but I'm new here and no better way to learn than to tear stuff apart
as for any future builds i do I'll be buying the proper interface there proven to work as are mouse hacks
but i believe your original question was what people got for results with these kinds of hacks n judging by the posts i would say just about everybody here knows a better way than mouse/keyboard/trackball and joystick hacks

ultimarc and groovy game gear

[darcyp]

i just recently done a logitech trackball hack
it works OK but nothing like the arcade feel
i just done a ps2 style usb joystick hack
it works OK but i found it alot easier to use a ipac
presently i have a mouse tore apart I'm gonna try and make a home made spinner
i never done any of these cuz they were easier or better and as far as cheaper include just minimum wage for half your time and it outways anything you'll save
as far as reliability i can tell Right now that these are not gonna last very long but I'm new here and no better way to learn than to tear stuff apart
as for any future builds i do I'll be buying the proper interface there proven to work as are mouse hacks
but i believe your original question was what people got for results with these kinds of hacks n judging by the posts i would say just about everybody here knows a better way than mouse/keyboard/trackball and joystick hacks

ultimarc and groovy game gear

what?
hah, sorry, this just made absolutely no sense to me.

[Comtek]

What part confused you  all of it
i'm not an english major dude just a dumb fisherman
my point is i tried the mouse hacks and the trackball hacks and the joystick hacks
and there a waste of time and money there are better solutions out there

[Hoopz]

For five buttons and a spinner I think your options are:

1. Mini-pac or other interface
2. 5 button mouse hack
3. "regular" mouse hack and keyboard hack
4. Plugging tornado in via PS/2 and keyboard hack

1. You've stated that you don't want to use the Mini-pac.
2. I don't know if the 5 button mouse hack will work.  Try it and see if it works.
3. No point in hacking the mouse if you can already connect the spinner to the PC.
4. May be the route to go.  You already have the Tornado and simply need to hack a keyboard for five buttons.  Shouldn't run into ghosting for five buttons.

You can say that you have been clear in your previous posts, but a few people have commented that you haven't.  You say:

I said 5 buttons and a spinner. 5 buttons and a spinner. 5 buttons and a spinner...

And I'm talking about game play buttons.(Not that any of this was supposed to be about my specific project).

Admin and other functions will be relegated to the keyboard.

My list gets you 5 buttons and a spinner.  No matter how many times you say it, my list will work.  It may not be everything that can be done or the right thing for you so I'm just throwing them out there.

HOWEVER.... in reading your other posts, you say you want:

I have the PS/2 connection on my Tornado. And the MiniPAC would be for games with more controls(joystick or more than three buttons) when not playing the spinner games.

I was just trying to figure out a way to get all that while only having to use a single connection from the control panel, which would be the USB connector from the MiniPAC.

If this is relative information, it would have been helpful for you to say that too.  I don't know if it still applies or not.  People want to help but when they say it's not clear or ask for more info, I would take that as a sign that it isn't clear to everyone and clearly stating all of your needs and parameters in one list will help eliminate people suggesting stuff that you don't want to do.  It's your call but it may help everyone help you better. 

[ubiquityman]

Have you actually tried that particular trackball? (I certainly would put one of those in any cp I made). 

Nope.  I don't have one of those.  Tried a orange though and that works.

[D_Harris]

That's a ball mouse, right?  Darren wants to hack an optical or laser mouse to hook up to a spinner/trackball.  They are not built the same, so I'm pretty sure he's asking a different question than what that mouse will solve.  I tried to give him a hacked mouse or two a while back, but he wants to do things differently.   

Thank. But if you remember, you didn't have any hacked mice that had more than three buttons.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

[D_Harris]

For five buttons and a spinner I think your options are:

1. Mini-pac or other interface
2. 5 button mouse hack
3. "regular" mouse hack and keyboard hack
4. Plugging tornado in via PS/2 and keyboard hack

1. You've stated that you don't want to use the Mini-pac.
2. I don't know if the 5 button mouse hack will work.  Try it and see if it works.
3. No point in hacking the mouse if you can already connect the spinner to the PC.
4. May be the route to go.  You already have the Tornado and simply need to hack a keyboard for five buttons.  Shouldn't run into ghosting for five buttons.

1) I'm not using the Tornado for this project. As I've said, I am using original arcade controls.(ie: Arkanoid spinner).

2) And I'm only looking to have to connect a single cable to the pc.

You can say that you have been clear in your previous posts, but a few people have commented that you haven't.  You say:

A few? Perhaps one of two. And only because they weren't concentrating on my original post, but instead looking to get more information on why instead of what I wanted to do.

I said 5 buttons and a spinner. 5 buttons and a spinner. 5 buttons and a spinner...

And I'm talking about game play buttons.(Not that any of this was supposed to be about my specific project).

Admin and other functions will be relegated to the keyboard.

My list gets you 5 buttons and a spinner.  No matter how many times you say it, my list will work.  It may not be everything that can be done or the right thing for you so I'm just throwing them out there.

I'm not disagreeing.

HOWEVER.... in reading your other posts, you say you want:

I have the PS/2 connection on my Tornado. And the MiniPAC would be for games with more controls(joystick or more than three buttons) when not playing the spinner games.

I was just trying to figure out a way to get all that while only having to use a single connection from the control panel, which would be the USB connector from the MiniPAC.

If this is relative information, it would have been helpful for you to say that too.

It wasn't relevant information. That was a quote you grabbed from a totally different thread.

I don't know if it still applies or not.  People want to help but when they say it's not clear or ask for more info, I would take that as a sign that it isn't clear to everyone and clearly stating all of your needs and parameters in one list will help eliminate people suggesting stuff that you don't want to do.  It's your call but it may help everyone help you better. 

Well, if they would just concentrate on my original question...

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

[Havok]

Well, if they would just concentrate on my original question...

ok, that's easy then...

I'm curious as to what results have been achieved by any who may have hacked optical or laser mice for their control panels. (Feedback on wire-less mouse hacks would be appreciated also).

Have there been any good results?

No.

There, we can close the thread now...

[Hoopz]

2) And I'm only looking to have to connect a single cable to the pc.

I have the PS/2 connection on my Tornado. And the MiniPAC would be for games with more controls(joystick or more than three buttons) when not playing the spinner games.

I was just trying to figure out a way to get all that while only having to use a single connection from the control panel, which would be the USB connector from the MiniPAC.

If this is relative information, it would have been helpful for you to say that too.

It wasn't relevant information. That was a quote you grabbed from a totally different thread.

I know it's from a different thread.  It seems like it is relative if you answered number 2 above saying that's what you want.  Since that's what you want and you've said it here now and it is relative, throw out my suggestions of 2-4.  Go with #1 or find another solution.  If you go with #1, email Andy at Ultimarc and find out how to connect your Tornado to the Minipac.

[D_Harris]

2) And I'm only looking to have to connect a single cable to the pc.

I have the PS/2 connection on my Tornado. And the MiniPAC would be for games with more controls(joystick or more than three buttons) when not playing the spinner games.

I was just trying to figure out a way to get all that while only having to use a single connection from the control panel, which would be the USB connector from the MiniPAC.

If this is relative information, it would have been helpful for you to say that too.

It wasn't relevant information. That was a quote you grabbed from a totally different thread.

I know it's from a different thread.  It seems like it is relative if you answered number 2 above saying that's what you want.

Not if you consider just the original question that started this thread.

Since that's what you want and you've said it here now and it is relative, throw out my suggestions of 2-4.  Go with #1 or find another solution.  If you go with #1, email Andy at Ultimarc and find out how to connect your Tornado to the Minipac.

  Well, since my Tornado has a PS/2 connector on it and the MiniPAC has a PS/2 connection that should be a problem. Wait... Unless you consider that I only want to use on of the original arcade spinners I have.

According to some here I should be able to easily hack the Mini-PAC to one of my Arkanoid or Midway spinners. So why waste a Tornado?

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.