Author Topic: Micro Cab competition (Prizes). DEADLINE EXTENDED (Read 48452 times)

1UP · « **Reply #120 on:** October 27, 2003, 01:41:04 pm »

Quote from: Pungo76 on October 27, 2003, 10:52:59 am

Wow, that is awesome, GREAT JOB!!

What is the little Q-bert slide switch actually do, remap the joystick for diagnols?

That's the idea. I still have to do some rewiring on the switch, but that's the way it will work. The switch was originally the power switch on the Coleco, so I had to find something else to do with it...

Here are some screenshots of some of the other games:

Here's a closeup showing the detail in the screen (the colors are much stronger in person and the image is much sharper.) The TFT screen even looks like it has scanlines!

SuperBoB2Turbo · « **Reply #121 on:** October 27, 2003, 01:42:33 pm »

I want one!

nighthawk2099 · « **Reply #122 on:** October 27, 2003, 01:47:20 pm »

HOLY COW !!!!!!

(dropping to knees and begins to bow)

"WE'RE NOT WORTHY !!! WE'RE NOT WORTHY !!! "

Chris · « **Reply #123 on:** October 27, 2003, 01:53:09 pm »

Heh... I predict a run on old PDA's on eBay now....

nighthawk2099 · « **Reply #124 on:** October 27, 2003, 01:58:29 pm »

Who you tell'en... I'm already bidding...

Frostillicus · « **Reply #125 on:** October 27, 2003, 01:59:36 pm »

Pretty cool! That motivates me...

1UP · « **Reply #126 on:** October 27, 2003, 02:04:16 pm »

Be warned that TFT screens aren't very suitable as cocktail screens, since they are only meant to be viewed from a certain angle. That is why I angled the screen more upright, rather than laying it down in line with the original screen. Any other angle and the screen loses color and becomes milky.

Chris · « **Reply #127 on:** October 27, 2003, 02:11:18 pm »

I don't want one for the competition... I just want to make one of those for my desk at work! They'd make awesome gifts, too....

We need to put these in our own mini cabinets, though; it's be a shame to start chewing into all these Coleco handhelds...

Apollo · « **Reply #128 on:** October 27, 2003, 02:38:13 pm »

Wow, that is very impressive. I'm thinking we may need a new category, lol.

Dave_K. · « **Reply #129 on:** October 27, 2003, 05:07:11 pm »

1up, have one question, and I want you to answer honestly

. Do the few games you have running actually play at full speed with sound? I got a new ViewSonic v37 with 400mhz xscale processor (must be like 4 times faster than that cassiopia) and with the processor cranked at max performance, I still can't get any roms to play at 100% speed with sound correctly. Sure I could live with jerky games with crappy sound, or no sound and 100% speed, but it wouldn't be much fun to play.

Anyway, just wondering how playable your setup really is. Also wondering if you tried robotron with the dual joysticks

.

rampy · « **Reply #130 on:** October 27, 2003, 07:04:32 pm »

Quote from: Edgedamage on October 27, 2003, 12:08:45 pm

Wow great work I love it!

Patsy says, "It's only a model...."

(it's a joke, of course.. and I imagine most of you'll get it, right?)

Rampy

Good job 1up, what did you use for emu software on the cassiopea?

1UP · « **Reply #131 on:** October 27, 2003, 07:21:50 pm »

Quote from: Dave_K. on October 27, 2003, 05:07:11 pm

1up, have one question, and I want you to answer honestly . Do the few games you have running actually play at full speed with sound? I got a new ViewSonic v37 with 400mhz xscale processor (must be like 4 times faster than that cassiopia) and with the processor cranked at max performance, I still can't get any roms to play at 100% speed with sound correctly. Sure I could live with jerky games with crappy sound, or no sound and 100% speed, but it wouldn't be much fun to play.

Anyway, just wondering how playable your setup really is. Also wondering if you tried robotron with the dual joysticks .

According to the guy who made MAME-CE3, PDA sound just sucks, period. I have found this is the same on both my 133mhz Cassiopeia and my 400mhz Dell Axim, whether I'm running PocketNES, MAMECE-10x or MAME-CE3. Apparently, there are too few handles for the programmers to take advantage of, so the sound emulation is some kind of cheat.

I really don't mind not having sound, just as long as the emulation runs smoothly. So the answer is, most of the games will run at or near 100% with sound off, some will run pretty well with it on, but the quality runs from crappy to unlistenable.

(Speaking of unlistenable, my wife is watching Temple Of Doom on DVD, and it really brings out just how awful that movie was with all of Willy's annoying screaming and bitching...

)

BTW, I am running MAME-10X on the Cassiopeia, since it's optimized for the older Casios and runs the smoothest. My Dell Axim runs everything like a dream on MAME-CE3, even games that MAME-10X doesn't support. However, the dell tends to crop some games that fit perfectly on the Casio's screen. Lower res I guess?

Oh yeah, I don't think Robotron works with this version of MAMECE, so I dunno. I know the diagonals probably won't work with the Cassiopeia, so it would be hard to play... I have tried Battlezone with the dual sticks and it works fine, though vector games tend to be a bit sluggish.

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Patsy says, "It's only a model...."

Good one, Rampy.

But you forgot to have him *shrug* when he says it!

BTW, this one's my working MAME entry, but I'm working on another "model" that I think you all may like...

Dave_K. · « **Reply #132 on:** October 27, 2003, 07:32:11 pm »

Quote from: 1UP on October 27, 2003, 07:21:50 pm

However, the dell tends to crop some games that fit perfectly on the Casio's screen. Lower res I guess?

I have the same clipping problem with my ViewSonic running MameCE3. I don't get it. Awsome job btw! I have a coleco galaxian I've wanted to mame similarly...but its pretty mint.

Ghoward · « **Reply #133 on:** October 27, 2003, 07:44:38 pm »

1UP you have done it again! Very cool.......I think I want to build one of those puppys too now.

Gary

Edgedamage · « **Reply #134 on:** October 27, 2003, 07:49:07 pm »

Also one could use the new psone with the lcd screen put into a mini cab. Running namco classics. Here's a pic of a gutted psone with a lcd monitor.

1UP · « **Reply #135 on:** October 27, 2003, 08:15:06 pm »

I think one of the newer GBAs with the backlit screens would be ideal. If you get a ROM burner and a blank cartridge, you can put PocketNES on it with a bunch of NES roms. Most of the NES ports of the arcade classics were pretty close to the originals. Pac-Man for instance looks almost identical...

Chris · « **Reply #136 on:** October 30, 2003, 01:19:33 pm »

As much as I hate to be a party pooper, although 1UP's mini cab is an incredible achievement, for the purposes of this contest it's certainly not unbeatable.

The contest rules note that whether the cabinet works or not is irrelevant. What's important is that the cabinet "should be authentic arcade in appearence".

Apollo · « **Reply #137 on:** October 30, 2003, 02:41:20 pm »

Quote from: Chris on October 30, 2003, 01:19:33 pm

As much as I hate to be a party pooper, although 1UP's mini cab is an incredible achievement, for the purposes of this contest it's certainly not unbeatable.

The contest rules note that whether the cabinet works or not is irrelevant. What's important is that the cabinet "should be authentic arcade in appearence".

Exactly, however as 1Up's cab is the only entry so far he is currently winning,lol.

Chris · « **Reply #138 on:** October 30, 2003, 02:47:33 pm »

Mine will be up tonight or tomorrow. Gotta take pictures still.

Apollo · « **Reply #139 on:** October 30, 2003, 04:55:51 pm »

He he it's the 31st here right now but I guess some of you guys are still on the 30th. New Zealanders are always ahead of the pack, lol.

team OBryan · « **Reply #140 on:** October 30, 2003, 06:00:51 pm »

so if the deadline is midnight oct 31 gmt what time is that central time in the USA.

NiN^_^NiN · « **Reply #141 on:** October 30, 2003, 06:03:47 pm »

well if you guys wanna make a cool mini arcade cab you should go out and buy a sony PS1 acreen then get a gunboy or simular unit.

The gunboy is 1 of them nes in a n64 controller but the gunboy has like 80 arcade games like galaga space invaders etc.

It also takes famicon games and you can use an adapter to play nes games on it.

This is how we make a NESp (Nintendo entertainmen system portable)
as apart of Bens board we make these and snes handhelds n64 whatever kind we want.

Thats where that ps1 pic came from above

that was a handheld ps1 called psp (afew months after wired mag did a thing on the psp sony said they would release a psp 3 months later think about it

)

www.classicgaming.com/vcsp

he's currently working on a NESp right now its quite an interesting site but he makes and sells atari 2600 handhelds

SirPoonga · « **Reply #142 on:** October 30, 2003, 06:06:10 pm »

Quote from: team OBryan on October 30, 2003, 06:00:51 pm

so if the deadline is midnight oct 31 gmt what time is that central time in the USA.

central is -6:00 GMT
so 6:00 pm

I will have mine done by then, will try and get pics up

Chris · « **Reply #143 on:** October 31, 2003, 01:03:39 am »

Okay, here we go: the first coin-op video game, Computer Space.

Building this cab was a challenge! Unfortunately, I didn't start taking pictures until I was almost done.

The first task was to build a rough core. A model of the Computer Space cabinet was built up from a plastic phone jack housing, balsa wood, cardboard, wire, and masking tape, ending up looking like a junkyard version of Johnny 5 from "Short Circuit". A clay layer was added over this, painstakingly shaped, and allowed to dry. The clay cracked and shrunk in places, and ended up looking like this:

To smooth out the model, I added frosting:

Okay, it's not actually frosting; it's a color changing spackle that goes on pink and turns white as it dries.

Meanwhile, the art for the control panel and bezel were measured and printed on an HP 8550 Color LaserJet printer. Finally, the model was painted with automotive metal-flake paint, just as the original cabinets were.

Here is a closer shot of the control panel, bezel and montor:

And heres a player's-eye view of the screen:

All in all, the project took about eight hours to complete.

--Chris

Apollo · « **Reply #144 on:** October 31, 2003, 02:01:38 am »

OMG that is the coolest thing!

1UP · « **Reply #145 on:** October 31, 2003, 03:47:41 am »

Quote from: Chris on October 30, 2003, 01:19:33 pm

As much as I hate to be a party pooper, although 1UP's mini cab is an incredible achievement, for the purposes of this contest it's certainly not unbeatable.

The contest rules note that whether the cabinet works or not is irrelevant. What's important is that the cabinet "should be authentic arcade in appearence".

Well, I did say that the working cab was something I was already working on before the contest anyway...my scale model entry will be posted soon...the glue is drying as we speak!

1UP · « **Reply #146 on:** October 31, 2003, 04:36:26 am »

OK, I'm seriously past my bedtime, but here's my final entry, the first arcade game I remember seeing as a kid: Space Invaders Deluxe, with actual reflected image over illuminated backdrop. Approx dimensions: 10" H x 5.5" D x 4.5" W. Materials: Black Foamcore board, black artists tape (for t-molding

), plastic model tubing (buttons), CD jewel cases (plexi) paper and transparencies printed on Fiery at Kinko's. Powered by 4.5v batteries (external).

I actually built those tiny buttons from styrene hobby tubing, those aren't printed!

Here's one the room lights reduced.

The screen is transparency, backed with Canon backlit film to diffuse the light. Lit by 7 white LEDs. The backdrop is made in 2 pieces (the blue moonbase and the orange sky are separate) lit by 3 colored LEDs each.

Here's a better angle to show how the horizontally mounted "screen" reflects onto the "plexi" (made from a cd jewel case cover) just like the real thing!

The coin slots are rigged with red LEDs, but I forgot to attach the wires for them, and don't have time to open it up and fix it. Also didn't have time to install 3 LEDs to light the marquee, will do that at a later date! Sorry for the quality of the photos, it's almost 2AM here and I can hardly type... Not sure of the time to complete, but I spend every night over the last week working on it to get it right! I really like the look of the SI Deluxe cab, and the game is one of my all time faves. This just might be the first actual arcade game that I'd want to buy for my game room!

BTW, I do like the Computer Space model!

Cheers

menace · « **Reply #147 on:** October 31, 2003, 07:12:27 am »

you guys must have the hands of surgeons! There would either be huge thumbprints all over mine or the severed thumb inside the thing from using an exacto knife in too close of quarters!

Phenomenal Work! Although admittedly the computer space one did make me hungry for some reason??? mmmm frosted arcade cab.....

Chris · « **Reply #148 on:** October 31, 2003, 09:18:36 am »

1Up: All your pics come up 404 for me...

1UP · « **Reply #149 on:** October 31, 2003, 12:11:05 pm »

OK, I fixed the pics. Been having problems with my domain again...

Chris · « **Reply #150 on:** October 31, 2003, 12:17:21 pm »

Well, they were certainly worth the wait!

I had another cabinet in the works, but after that I'm not even gonna finish it. I bow at your feet!

1UP · « **Reply #151 on:** October 31, 2003, 12:27:59 pm »

Why not finish it? I almost gave up on mine this week so I could go to sleep earlier, but it ended up coming out better than expected, so I'm glad I stuck to it...

Chris · « **Reply #152 on:** October 31, 2003, 12:39:10 pm »

Quote from: 1UP on October 31, 2003, 12:27:59 pm

Why not finish it? I almost gave up on mine this week so I could go to sleep earlier, but it ended up coming out better than expected, so I'm glad I stuck to it...

Because it isn't even remotely as good as that!

It was a Last Starfighter cab... I had to guess on large chunks of it, and then redo it when the pictures came out on eBay and I saw just how far off I was.

The primary material is basswood, at a scale of 1 inch to 1 foot, so the sheet is 1/16th of an inch thck to be equivalent to 3/4" thick. But all of the art is simple paper on wood; no transparencies, lights, lamination, etc. Nothing to compare to that...

1UP · « **Reply #153 on:** October 31, 2003, 12:46:25 pm »

A Last Starfighter cab would be cool. you should finish that even if it doesn't make it to the contest!

Chris · « **Reply #154 on:** October 31, 2003, 12:49:53 pm »

Quote from: 1UP on October 31, 2003, 12:46:25 pm

A Last Starfighter cab would be cool. you should finish that even if it doesn't make it to the contest!

Well, I've been thinking of something cooler: a Last Starfighter game, mimicing as much of the game that we can actually see and that is MAME-cabinet friendly. But I won't even consider it until I finish DOSCab Jukebox...

1UP · « **Reply #155 on:** October 31, 2003, 01:19:20 pm »

OK, I'm late for work now...but HEY, at least I got the coin door and marquee lights working on my tiny cab!

See ya all tonight, I'm hoping there will be a few more entries by then!

SirPoonga · « **Reply #156 on:** October 31, 2003, 01:24:40 pm »

Well, unfortunately I just didn't have the time, I spent most of my time working on controls.dat or fixing my car (what a POS!).

Here's as far as I got on the cardboard mockup. I ran out of ink and printed the bezel and marquee too large, otherwise they would be on the mockup.

The control panel, bezel, and sideart: guess where those came from:) I now have a replacement marquee finally too that I got for $1 off ebay. But the marquee in the mame32 pack was good enough for this size. I tried ot take a pic of my marquee but there was way too much glare, even with the flash diffused. partly to get the best looking shot for this I had to tae the pic straight on giving the most reflections. Grrrrrr.

Edit: Props to anyone who can name the the games in the background

SirPoonga · « **Reply #157 on:** October 31, 2003, 01:25:03 pm »

pic 2

Dave_K. · « **Reply #158 on:** October 31, 2003, 04:54:13 pm »

1up, I can't believe what a fantastic job you did. The attention to detail is just outstanding! Is this mini-cab also using the cassiopia?

team OBryan · « **Reply #159 on:** October 31, 2003, 05:23:06 pm »

Here is my entry. It has been complete since about 4 days before the last deadline. It is a working Pacman cab. It stands a little less than 12 inches tall. I used one of those Namco 5 game classic joystick things that run on 4 AA's and plugs into a TV found here

http://www.jakkstvgames.com/namco.html. The screen is an LCD rca TV with A/V jack. The joystick is a miniature 4 way that I found by luck in an electronic parts store. The buttons I had from a project in high school back in 1987.

marquee lit up

here is a screen shoot they didn't come out very good

here is the joystick

here is the board

here is the coin door


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