sticking a Ez20 from a Donkey Kong in a Crazy Climber... Help

[mikes2nd]

So the 100 volt power plug is no problem.

The harness (6 wires) plugs in fine.

Where does the red white wire go from the monitor?

Also where is the best place to attach the ground wire to the monitor? Just the frame anywhere is fine right?

[SirPeale]

If it's the red wire I think it is, it goes to the inverter board.

If you're talking about "earth ground" as opposed to "ground" it can connect anywhere on the metal frame.

[Kevin Mullins]

And you do have the inverter board ..... right ?

[mikes2nd]

this is mikes dad. is the invertor board the large on on the left side ?

[mikes2nd]

correction, i meant the large board on the right side looking in from the back .

[SirPeale]

The inverter board is generally mounted right above the flyback, on a steel box cage that surrounds it.  It's not particularly large, about 2" x 4" or so.  These are approximate dimensions as I don't have one in front of me.

There are several different plugs on it, one for input, and two outputs (IIRC).

[mikes2nd]

okay the monitor has these 3 connectors.  obviously the plug goes in the 100 volt.

attached is a monitor install example and the 100 volt isnt plugged in??

the 5 wire goes in the to the crazy climber board.(6 wire) etc(the white nintendo).

The other wire(red white), will not map into that "L" connector in the back(it is white orange) and the plugs are both male.

The L connector is running into a transformer?

I don't want to cut the end connectors and splice them in obviously.

Thanks for the help.

I am a newb at monitors I know just enough not to get electrocuted I believe

[mikes2nd]

btw the "PIC" monitor is the original pic of a crazy climber.

the 100 volt isnt plugged in.

[SirPeale]

That red/white combo either goes to the speaker, or to the sound amp.  In your application it may not even be used.

Yes, the plug goes to a 100V isolation transformer.

And the six position white connector is for the video signal - though which end you have (monitor or PCB) I can't tell.

In that last picture, is that your cab?

These Sanyo monitors were generally used for Nintendo games - IIRC Crazy Climber wasn't one of them.

[mikes2nd]

the connectors plugs in(except the red white).

that cabinet pic is a "real" original crazy climber. not mine.

I assume its possible to use this monitor?

the manual says its a mitsubishi monitor?

Hitaci monitor?  

The Klov says it uses the EZ20?

http://www.klov.com/C/Crazy_Climber.html

[Kevin Mullins]

The EZ20 was "originally" a standard monitor when they first went into production.
It is very possible it could have been used in those cabs.
But if the one you are putting in came from a Nintendo cab then there are some electronics differences. (minor, but enough to cause color issues)

First thing to do is measure the main power voltage that will be feeding the monitor.
(where the monitor will plug into)
If it is more than 100v then you can NOT use it.
A Nintendo cab has literally an "outlet" in the bottom of the cab to plug the monitor into.

What does your cab have in it ?

We also need to see the 20EZ chassis that you actually have.
Specifically up in the area of where that long six wire cable leads to on the chassis itself.

[mikes2nd]

thanks you guys

Here is picture of the cab bottom.

The previous cab I posted does not use the 100 volt.  I will check it to make sure its 100 volts.

I dont belive it had the normal plug wire, I think it was attached through the L connector.

The others are the monitor in question.

[Kevin Mullins]

KLOV mentions the Deluxe version using Nintendo stuff.....but not sure what the differences between those cabs and your cab may be. (voltage wise)

You need to measure the AC voltage on that plug labeled "L".

You definitely have a standard "Nintendo" setup monitor.
There are components removed to allow it to work directly with the Nintendo games. The Inverter board was there to allow it to run standard games if desired. (some didn't even come with it in a Nintendo cab)
 
IF the power source is good, you will still need power to the inverter board as well. between 12-16v DC)
It doesn't require power in "Nintendo mode", but does for "standard mode".

Or you can eliminate the inverter all together, but you will have to replace to missing components on the chassis first. There's kits around for this and plenty of instructions.

BTW - the standard Crazy Climber manual lists an Electrohome or Wells Gardner monitor.
(G07, K4600, etc)

[mikes2nd]

these are all the deluxe version involved. and the "pic.jpg" posted above is the "original" monitor.

Its turned sideways so I assume I am missing an inverter board that was included on that monitor

[Kevin Mullins]

these are all the deluxe version involved. and the "pic.jpg" posted above is the "original" monitor.

Yeah, but you mentioned it was "A" Crazy Climber .... not yours.
I'm more concerned with what you actually have and are working with.

Its turned sideways so I assume I am they are missing an inverter board that was included on that monitor

YOUR monitor looks to have the inverter board sitting right on top of the flyback cage.
The "pic" monitor you posted looks to have the video signal cable going directly from the monitor chassis to the game board which means it was most likely NOT a modified Nintendo version of that monitor which is what you have.
As I mentioned these 20EZ's were "originally" just a regular plain old monitor. (100v though of course)

[mikes2nd]

hmm the CC outputs normal colors... so maybe I would either need to bypass the color inverter or since I think I dont have one I am okay?

uhg

[Kevin Mullins]

hmm the CC outputs normal colors... so maybe I would either need to bypass the color inverter or since I think I dont have one I am okay?

Take a deep breath and please re-read my earlier posts. 

Namely -

You definitely have a standard "Nintendo" setup monitor.
There are components removed to allow it to work directly with the Nintendo games. The Inverter board was there to allow it to run standard games if desired. (some didn't even come with it in a Nintendo cab)

BTW - the standard Crazy Climber manual lists an Electrohome or Wells Gardner monitor.
(G07, K4600, etc)

If I had a better picture of the monitor chassis in that OTHER CC cab that you keep referencing to I could show you the difference between your monitor that you posted pics of and the one that is in the other cabinet. Yes, they are both 20EZ's.... but they are NOT componently identical.

(is componently even a word) 

[Kevin Mullins]

Have you measured the voltage coming from that "L" connector ?

[mikes2nd]

that service connector inside is showing 120volts, the L connector is showing nothing...

That makes sense why the monitor doesnt use the internal service connector.

I am going to retrieve my broken old monitor... that should help me out.

[Kevin Mullins]

I am going to retrieve my broken old monitor... that should help me out.

So you have the original monitor that came out of there ?
Cool..... this will be interesting to see then if it is indeed also a 20EZ. 

[mikes2nd]

okay got the crazy climber monitor back.  Its an ez20 but it doesnt have the sound connector nor a 2 pronged plug.. Ill post pics tommorow.

Now that red/white is nintendo sound? 

The L connector is indeed power to the monitor.  I guess I can cut the grey power wire on the nintendo monitor and hook on the original power connector.

Then leave the sound unplugged? Hmm anyways ill post pics so you guys can see.

[mikes2nd]

so i get the monitor in...

i can see a faint game background but it shifted and twisted a little...

But the colors go super red or super blue.

cant get the horizontal to go up anymore

[mikes2nd]

you guys think i should try a cap kit?