Author Topic: Updated: Pac-Mini - Monitor installed today (Read 20392 times)

pathdoc2 · « **Reply #40 on:** August 19, 2003, 09:21:09 am »

I'll say it again, no one is going to get rich selling arcade cabinet plans. There are however alot of newbies who might benefit from a nice set of instructions. Give this guy a bread, enough already.

SirPeale · « **Reply #41 on:** August 19, 2003, 12:01:25 pm »

Quote from: pathdoc2 on August 19, 2003, 09:21:09 am

I'll say it again, no one is going to get rich selling arcade cabinet plans. There are however alot of newbies who might benefit from a nice set of instructions. Give this guy a bread, enough already.

White, whole wheat or pumpernickel?

pathdoc2 · « **Reply #42 on:** August 19, 2003, 12:48:45 pm »

A break already. Okay my bad.

CitznFish · « **Reply #43 on:** August 19, 2003, 01:14:45 pm »

Quote from: Peale on August 19, 2003, 12:01:25 pm

Quote from: pathdoc2 on August 19, 2003, 09:21:09 am
I'll say it again, no one is going to get rich selling arcade cabinet plans. There are however alot of newbies who might benefit from a nice set of instructions. Give this guy a bread, enough already.

White, whole wheat or pumpernickel?

do you have sourdough?

Frostillicus · « **Reply #44 on:** August 19, 2003, 02:09:37 pm »

Quote from: pathdoc2 on August 19, 2003, 09:21:09 am

I'll say it again, no one is going to get rich selling arcade cabinet plans. There are however alot of newbies who might benefit from a nice set of instructions. Give this guy a bread, enough already.

So why sell them then? All the good reference stuff I've gotten around here is free anyways - the admins would probably take good submitted plans over donations anyday.

pathdoc2 · « **Reply #45 on:** August 19, 2003, 02:26:59 pm »

Maybe its to cover the cost of printing/paper and shipping. I know some plans have large diagrams. I've never used plans so I couldn't say for sure.

Frostillicus · « **Reply #46 on:** August 19, 2003, 03:40:54 pm »

I was talking more like a PDF or DOC version, something people could download. Like Lucid's, for example.

SirPeale · « **Reply #47 on:** September 08, 2003, 09:43:43 am »

So...what new updates on this project?

TrickyFishy · « **Reply #48 on:** September 10, 2003, 03:25:44 am »

[quote author=Frostillicus
So why sell them then? All the good reference stuff I've gotten around here is free anyways - the admins would probably take good submitted plans over donations anyday.

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Yes, of course its all free. But some people don't have:

1) the time digging it all up. they want to start now.
2) the skills to put it all together without a guide
3) all the lessons *I* learned putting it together. Probably will save them 10x more than the plans cost.

You also have a choice: the choice not to pay and go dig it up yourself. Do all the size conversions. Make all the mistakes. Read thousands of posts. Maybe you'll get it right the first time. Who knows?

And the price really not the plans, it was the instructions that have the value. You can get cheezy plans anywhere. I even bought some that I though were pretty crappy for twice as much. Plus I'm wasn't keeping the $$$, it was originally a way to try to raise an insignificant amount for the site but screw it. What a waste of time. Ya, maybe I'll just donate them if there is someplace to send them.

Anyway, no update yet $:-\$ I'm bummed but I should be back underway in a couple of weeks. I'm currently getting my artwork all printed and some other happ stuff coming (coin door etc.)

I've had a few requests for my plans on this one too. I don't know though...I feel kinda spit on.

tmasman · « **Reply #49 on:** September 10, 2003, 09:55:15 am »

Quote from: TrickyFishy on September 10, 2003, 03:25:44 am

I've had a few requests for my plans on this one too. I don't know though...I feel kinda spit on.

I don't blame you... Some of the people around here think that since they got another set of plans free (or 3000 games free), that no one should charge money for them.

As great as this forum is, some people just don't get the idea that not everyone here is well off. I'm glad to help out where I can, but I too am always looking for ways to make some extra money. If you don't like my ideas or the "product" I offer, then look else where instead of bashing a person for trying to fund his hobby.

Oh well... I'm really not trying to stir the flames back up.

And I wouldn't blame you one bit if you didn't want to give/sell your plans.
Just keep us updated on how the project is going. Please!

pathdoc2 · « **Reply #50 on:** September 10, 2003, 10:07:45 am »

TrickyFishy, you have been spit on. I think you have been treated unfairly. There is an environment here that doesn't accept all comers or their ideas. You are perfectly within your right to charge for well thought out plans. I think it could save a newbie lots of time and effort. I built my first cabinet and had never seen or heard of this website. It took forever to figure out how to connect the control panel and how to program the encoder. Now I can laugh at how easy it seems in retrospect. Tricky, you do top quality work and I for one appreciate your efforts. Coming up with easy to read plans is a good idea. Hang in there.
Please continue to update us on your project. I can't wait to see your completed cab.

Hyperion · « **Reply #51 on:** October 13, 2003, 09:58:29 am »

Any new updates?

Frostillicus · « **Reply #52 on:** October 13, 2003, 11:27:15 am »

Quote from: TrickyFishy on September 10, 2003, 03:25:44 am

[quote author=Frostillicus
So why sell them then? All the good reference stuff I've gotten around here is free anyways - the admins would probably take good submitted plans over donations anyday.
Quote

Yes, of course its all free. But some people don't have:

1) the time digging it all up. they want to start now.
2) the skills to put it all together without a guide
3) all the lessons *I* learned putting it together. Probably will save them 10x more than the plans cost.

You also have a choice: the choice not to pay and go dig it up yourself. Do all the size conversions. Make all the mistakes. Read thousands of posts. Maybe you'll get it right the first time. Who knows?

And the price really not the plans, it was the instructions that have the value. You can get cheezy plans anywhere. I even bought some that I though were pretty crappy for twice as much. Plus I'm wasn't keeping the $$$, it was originally a way to try to raise an insignificant amount for the site but screw it. What a waste of time. Ya, maybe I'll just donate them if there is someplace to send them.

Anyway, no update yet $:-\$ I'm bummed but I should be back underway in a couple of weeks. I'm currently getting my artwork all printed and some other happ stuff coming (coin door etc.)

I've had a few requests for my plans on this one too. I don't know though...I feel kinda spit on.

My only concern is that you used someone else's free plans as a base for your commercial plans.

It's not a matter of being easy to read, or saving 'newbies' time, those are commendable - it's a matter of fairness to the original authors. That's it.

But hey, I like the cab

EDIT: OK my bad - I didn't check the reply dates close enough and thought that this series was fairly new. Guess I missed it last month... anyway that doesn't change my opinion, but puts it in context.

Hyperion · « **Reply #53 on:** October 13, 2003, 02:52:05 pm »

uhh....

I didn't bring this project back to the front to start up the "free plans/ commercial plans" debat. I simply thought that it was a cool project and would like to know what progress had been made.

]-[yperion

tbombaci · « **Reply #54 on:** October 13, 2003, 04:46:54 pm »

yikes...

On another note, I too have started a mini PacMan project.

This weekend, I configured the system for the cabinet. I am using Dos 6.22, & Game Launcher. (will have Pacman, Ms Pacman, Super Pacman and Centipede) I just received the controller and buttons today from Happs. The monitor is mounted to an MDF frame and ready to drop in (BTW, I used the power drill method of degaussing a monitor....very cool)

I have vectorized and uploaded all of the artwork (available for DL at the Vector Library).

I am going to prime and paint this week.

-tom

TrickyFishy · « **Reply #55 on:** October 14, 2003, 12:25:28 pm »

Awesome! Do you have pics? I can't get to the site for degaussing with a drill. How do you do it?

Care to exchange artwork? Maybe yours is better than mine

I've vectorized the complete set. I haven't uploaded to the Vector Library yet cause I haven't had time to make small jpegs of it.
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Just checked it out. I also have the coin door art, monitor bezel and CPO vectorized.

tbombaci · « **Reply #56 on:** October 14, 2003, 03:00:19 pm »

Bummer about the degauss link... I am sure its in my cache at home.

The instructions were to take the corded drill (sans bit) and start about 6 inches from the monitor. Strart the drillmotor very slowly and watch the monitor degauss. I was skeptical at first, but, it worked like a champ!

To be honest, the project was supposed to be a Ms. Pacman Mini. After I had made the cuts, my son wanted "Yellow Pac Man". So, now its a hybrid Mini Ms. Pacman cab with Pacman Art! I will shoot some images tonight and get a web site going. (on my ever growing list of things to do)

I would love to see your Pac Man files. Have you posted them anywhere?

Best Regards,
Tom

zorg · « **Reply #57 on:** October 15, 2003, 07:58:24 am »

Quote from: TrickyFishy on October 14, 2003, 12:25:28 pm

I've vectorized the complete set. I haven't uploaded to the Vector Library yet cause I haven't had time to make small jpegs of it.

since jully 25th (msgid=75292) wooosh you are a busy man

or did you have the idea to sell the artwork, like the mini cab plans ?

by the way it would be interesting to have 2 sets of pacman stuff on the vector library, go on, upload it

yes I'm sarcastic

but I just believe what i can see

Ghoward · « **Reply #58 on:** October 15, 2003, 08:59:05 am »

Is it me or has he removed the whole website that used to have the plans on them? Both http://pacmini.com/ and http://minimame.com/ go to the same website now.

I liked his site before he took it down. However like many others though feel he should share the plans for free since they are based on 1Up's plans and also its the sharing of information that makes this hobby so easy to get started on.

Gary

pathdoc2 · « **Reply #59 on:** October 15, 2003, 09:58:01 am »

Zorg you are just rude. Give this guy a break. No one is forcing you are anyone else to buy his plans. The sarcasm here is way out of control. If you were a total newbie you might think $20 was money well spent for carefully laid out instructions and plans that could prevent lots of mistakes. The disrespect I see here is a total bummer. If you don't like this guys projects then don't bother posting on this thread. Oh, BTW, lets see some of your work. What have you contributed to this hobby?

Bomber · « **Reply #60 on:** October 15, 2003, 04:16:43 pm »

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Oh, BTW, lets see some of your work. What have you contributed to this hobby?

Check out the downloads in www.mametrixreloaded.com - Zorg has contributed plenty to this hobby.

The great thing about this hobby is the amount of time and effort people are willing to spend on creating things that anybody can use free of charge. How much work do think think goes into this site? We don't get charged a cent to use it. Same with all the free cab plans out there. Not to mention MAME and how much work goes into that unrewarded.

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No one is forcing you are anyone else to buy his plans.

This is the other side of the coin. However my problem with this is that people are going to be discouraged from posting their plans/instructions if they think someone else is going to take them, make a few changes/additions and resell them.

TrickyFishy · « **Reply #61 on:** October 15, 2003, 04:28:10 pm »

You guys are incredible. I give it all away for free now so can we just stop talking about it? Freaking frustrating. 1UP said he didn't care as long as I gave him credit. Christ.

I've had a lot of people interested in building one so I posted all my PacMan artwork on my site. I spent A LOT of hours hand-drawing / tracing / scaling bla bla. It's currently scaled for my cab and in Illustrator format.

I'll post to the vector library when I get a chance unless the webadmin wants to do it on my behalf.

pathdoc2 · « **Reply #62 on:** October 15, 2003, 04:33:31 pm »

Bomber you points are well taken and I'm glad to see Zorg is a pretty nice guy and has tried to help others by contributing images and art. Sounds like he's done alot more than me. Secondly, I had not considered that charging for plans derived from anothers work may stop some folks from posting their work/plans. I have to be honest, that never occurred to me. Very legitimate points. I stand corrected. Okay Tricky, stop charging and lets get past this. Tricky has a very cool little project here and I really want to see the completed project.

Bomber · « **Reply #63 on:** October 15, 2003, 05:13:50 pm »

I also think its a neat little project. My comments weren't direct at TrickyFishy directly. One guy selling plans for $20 isn't going to send the sky falling down. I just think sharing info is what makes this hobby so great and would hate to see it change. Its also a shame that we might not see the completed project because of all the flaming thats gone on here.

Please keep the project updates coming.

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I'm glad to see Zorg is a pretty nice guy

I never said that. Just that he has posted a bunch of great artwork for everyone to use. Although I'm sure he's a great guy (he just didn't tackle this as tactifully as he could have done)

zorg · « **Reply #64 on:** October 16, 2003, 03:30:23 am »

Quote from: TrickyFishy on October 15, 2003, 04:28:10 pm

You guys are incredible. I give it all away for free now so can we just stop talking about it?

nice, and thank's

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I've had a lot of people interested in building one so I posted all my PacMan artwork on my site. I spent A LOT of hours hand-drawing / tracing / scaling bla bla. It's currently scaled for my cab and in Illustrator format.

yes vectorizing stuff and making the plan is a lot of time, work and energy.
thank's for contriibuting to one of the nicest projects. this give me some ideas for one mini cab.

and yes I'm sometimes rude.

tbombaci · « **Reply #65 on:** October 16, 2003, 03:40:06 pm »

Tricky,

Your coindoor face is far superior to mine. I am going to use it. Great job!

-Tom

TrickyFishy · « **Reply #66 on:** October 17, 2003, 12:39:38 pm »

Thanks! Appreciate the complement.

Hyperion · « **Reply #67 on:** October 17, 2003, 01:45:03 pm »

Tricky and Tom,
Your projects are looking great, I can't wait to see them completed.

Tricky... your artwork is awesome.... thanks for sharing it.
Is there anywhere that I could get a copy of your original half scale MiniMame?

.... Thanks for all that you do guys... keep up the good work.

]-[yperion

TrickyFishy · « **Reply #68 on:** October 17, 2003, 02:02:51 pm »

Feel free to download:

Instructions:
http://minimame.com/miniMame-instructions.pdf

Profile plan:
http://minimame.com/Cabinet-side.pdf

Pacman art:
http://pacmini.com/PacMan-art.zip

Hyperion · « **Reply #69 on:** October 17, 2003, 03:41:09 pm »

Thank you, Thank you ......
Those files are great, can't wait to start building one of my own

Thanks for all your hard work putting this together.

]-[yperion

tmasman · « **Reply #70 on:** October 17, 2003, 04:24:42 pm »

Wow... You did an impressive job documenting your work.

I'm sorry you got bullied into sharing those plans for free...
It's obvious that you spent a lot of time & energy to document
the process & put together some outstanding plans.

The rest of you should be ashamed!
$20 is nothing for the amount of work that this man put into these documents.

OK... Now that I'm done ranting...
Great Job TrickyFishy!

menace · « **Reply #71 on:** October 17, 2003, 04:31:40 pm »

not to stir the pot but those instructions are sweet--I wouldn't begrudge anyone for charging for them. basing a cabinet on dimensions you found on the net is alot different than BUILDING a cabinet and creating detailed instructions. I wouldn't blame trickyfish one bit for taking the instructions off of here and selling them on ebay (and giving them for free to fellow byoac'ers wink,wink, nudge, nudge-j/k)

Nice work!

TrickyFishy · « **Reply #72 on:** October 18, 2003, 12:11:11 pm »

Quote from: TrickyFishy on October 17, 2003, 02:02:51 pm

Feel free to download:

Instructions:
http://minimame.com/miniMame-instructions.pdf

Profile plan:
http://minimame.com/Cabinet-side.pdf

Pacman art:
http://pacmini.com/PacMan-art.zip

K, I cleaned up the website a little and put the stuff where it belogs so the above links don't work anymore. You can grab all the stuff off the download links at http://miniMame.com

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Edgedamage · « **Reply #73 on:** October 18, 2003, 12:35:50 pm »

Wow you must be some real nice person in real life to put up with all the mud that has been slung at you and still give the plans for free.

Bomber · « **Reply #74 on:** October 19, 2003, 06:45:09 pm »

They are some of the best plans I've seen. The level of detail is amazing.

The laminate also looks great. 50 bucks well spent.

Thanks for sharing them man.

Ghoward · « **Reply #75 on:** October 20, 2003, 10:57:07 am »

TrickyFishy I have a question why do you use drywall mud in your cab plans? Also does it stick well, I would be worried about knocking my cab one day and it cracking or worse falling off.

Nice job on the plans by the way they are really detailed and well written.

Gary

macattack · « **Reply #76 on:** October 21, 2003, 04:52:14 pm »

want smaller? try this one. Was built as proof of concept. uses a laptop for the screen and guts (modified playstation controls) using the printer port to connect to the pc.

Now the concept is complete, I am going to start producing a similar thing but as an exact replica (shape, etc)of the pacman/mspacman/galaga etc. all in correct colours and decals. they will be about 24" tall.

SirPeale · « **Reply #77 on:** October 21, 2003, 05:21:27 pm »

Why six buttons on a vertical layout?

macattack · « **Reply #78 on:** October 21, 2003, 05:49:39 pm »

because i could, and that was what the playstation controller had. didn't think about it at the time was just throwing it togther. only took about 1 day to complete.

TrickyFishy · « **Reply #79 on:** October 21, 2003, 06:50:53 pm »

Quote from: Ghoward on October 20, 2003, 10:57:07 am

TrickyFishy I have a question why do you use drywall mud in your cab plans?

The original yellow minicab was made from particle board which is very porous and rough. I did it to smooth out the finish. It worked really well. It is only intended to fill the pores of the wood and not imperfections. For that purpose, it works fine. Anything else, your right, it won't stick forever.

I would recommend for anyone building one to go ahead and build from MDF. Particle board may seem cheap up front but the laminate is very expensive and it sucks up a ton of paint (even with the mud). If your trying to be cheap, you can paint MDF for a whole lot less.


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