Author Topic: Hey Chad, I'm thinking your Bucs will be the new Lions this year! (Read 11488 times)

ChadTower · « **Reply #40 on:** September 17, 2009, 07:45:22 am »

Quote from: orion on September 16, 2009, 04:38:07 pm

My bad, I just assumed you were in Tampa, am I correct to assume that you used to live there? Do you have Directv NFL Sunday ticket or something?

Yes and yes.

And we have a pair of dual tuner Tivos that record 4 games at once giving us the ability to switch between them at any time as well as no commercials.

Football needs Tivo. It's a whole different TV experience without the commercials.

ClubNinja · « **Reply #41 on:** September 17, 2009, 08:36:01 am »

We discovered the Red Zone channel last Sunday and, while a little ADD, it made the afternoon a lot of fun. Similar to Chad's experience, no commercials, no halftimes, just an endless cycle of relatively exciting or important plays.

ChadTower · « **Reply #42 on:** September 17, 2009, 09:14:33 am »

Sadly, I think that's part of the Superfan package, which is $100 more than the already bloated cost of Sunday Ticket itself. It's crazy. Last week was a free preview.

ClubNinja · « **Reply #43 on:** September 17, 2009, 11:33:46 am »

That's ridiculous. For us, it's apparently 6 bucks a month Sept - Jan.

ChadTower · « **Reply #44 on:** September 17, 2009, 12:03:30 pm »

Cable? I didn't think they could even carry any NFL specific stuff that isn't on the NFL Network (if they even have that at this point).

Flake · « **Reply #45 on:** September 17, 2009, 12:09:30 pm »

I subscribe to Sunday Ticket. Signed up for it years ago to specifically to watch Niner games. After they came out with Super Fan a few years ago I began the process of calling them towards the end of the season to get it for free to "evaluate" whether or not I would consider signing up for it next year. So after a few years of this they automatically enrolled me in it this year. So when I called to cancel the subscription prior to the start of the season they offered Super Fan to me for $50 plus they gave me a $5 monthly credit on the regular Sunday Ticket package. So I got Super Fan this year for $20. I spent most of my time last Sunday watching the Red Zone channel during the early game period on the big TV and watched various other games on the smaller TV by the bar. When the Niner game came on I switched the big TV to that game and the little TV to the Red Zone channel.

I love it. I wont even consider another sat/cable provider until the point in time Sunday Ticket becomes available on multiple providers or Directv gets outbid.

Cable providers now get the NFL Networks version of the Red Zone Channel. I think you have to subscribe to an upgraded sports tier though.

ClubNinja · « **Reply #46 on:** September 17, 2009, 12:14:25 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on September 17, 2009, 12:03:30 pm

Cable? I didn't think they could even carry any NFL specific stuff that isn't on the NFL Network (if they even have that at this point).

Comcast, yes. Just a few weeks ago, I noticed that we suddenly had NFL Network, NHL TV, MLB TV, and a few other things. No changes have been made to my subscription; however, I did threaten to leave for Verizon FIOS in June and they offered us several upgrades without cost if I stayed, so all of this stuff may have been included. Fine with me until next June when FIOS starts looking good again.

ChadTower · « **Reply #47 on:** September 17, 2009, 01:20:36 pm »

I would probably upgrade to HD stuff if the HD sunday ticket wasn't part of that exorbitant Superfan package. The network feeds they carry for some of the Sunday Ticket games are horrible. Intentionally compressed way the hell down.

Flake · « **Reply #48 on:** September 17, 2009, 03:52:19 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on September 17, 2009, 01:20:36 pm

I would probably upgrade to HD stuff if the HD sunday ticket wasn't part of that exorbitant Superfan package. The network feeds they carry for some of the Sunday Ticket games are horrible. Intentionally compressed way the hell down.

Yea I always hated that. Getting HD for Sunday Ticket games was one of the reasons I've always wanted the Super Fan package, but never could justify spending ANOTHER $100 on the package. But for $20, hell yea, sign me up.

shardian · « **Reply #49 on:** September 17, 2009, 03:59:07 pm »

So do you guys just sit around ALL DAY on Saturday and Sunday watching football? I couldn't imagine spending hundreds of dollars...to watch football games I have no vested interest in.

Granted, I like watching the occasional hour or 2 of football to get my fix. I can only think of one day in my life that I watched football for more than one game. The day I took my FE exam, I went home and crashed on the couch. I watched football from 5pm to about 1:30 am. My brain was fried, but too scrambled from the test for me to sleep.

ChadTower · « **Reply #50 on:** September 17, 2009, 04:03:57 pm »

Sunday. I have watched maybe 3 college football games on TV in my life. Keep in mind without the commercials and halftime you can watch two full games in the time it takes to watch one in real time.

And you know there's no way I'd be able to otherwise watch the Bucs. Even when they were super bowl contenders they were barely ever on TV here.

ClubNinja · « **Reply #51 on:** September 17, 2009, 04:08:09 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on September 17, 2009, 04:03:57 pm

I have watched maybe 3 college football games on TV in my life.

I will never "get" the draw of college football. I can understand following your school's team, but even after having numerous college football fanatics explain their love, I still don't see it. The sham of a "championship" doesn't help their cause.

ChadTower · « **Reply #52 on:** September 17, 2009, 04:14:29 pm »

Yeah. I'm about as pure a football fan as you get. I love the game and will watch all the way down to pop warner. I'm sure my opinion is affected by the crappy experiences I had dealing with the NCAA in college. I just don't have any interest in anything touching the NCAA.

shardian · « **Reply #53 on:** September 17, 2009, 04:14:59 pm »

College ball draws:
Player egos are (mostly) checked at the door
Many different forms of offense
Band fight songs in the background
Fans can have much more vested interest by being an alumni or athletic booster
A few local kids are usually on the teams
Great rivalries

And the number one reason: EVERYONE is local to at least one decent sized college team stadium.

ChadTower · « **Reply #54 on:** September 17, 2009, 04:17:54 pm »

Most of that applies to live college football. Not much of it applies to college football on television. I'm all for heading over to any stadium to watch a game so long as it is affordable. TV is a totally different matter.

ClubNinja · « **Reply #55 on:** September 17, 2009, 04:33:44 pm »

Agreed - most of that describes the live experience of seeing your local team. That's fine. Just like I enjoy seeing local baseball and hockey minor league teams in person, but would never watch them on television.

I don't see what makes college rivalries any different than serious professional rivalries. In both cases, the rosters are always changing, so its rivalry based on team devotion, just like the pros. If anything, I like pro rivalries more because there's a greater chance of seeing your favorite player sign a contract with an "enemy" team. Little Jimmy switching schools probably happens far less and really isn't that compelling.

As far as egos go, I've heard that arguement often. How "pure" the college game is compared to the professional. NCAA sports are hardly pure and I'd love to see the majors and GPAs of some of the "students" on those teams. I mean, isn't college for learning and stuff? Honestly, I'd rather laugh at someone like T.O. crying about his team on television than little Jimmy who's barely passing Basket Weaving 101 but sure has good hands.

orion · « **Reply #56 on:** September 17, 2009, 04:36:03 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on September 17, 2009, 04:17:54 pm

Most of that applies to live college football. Not much of it applies to college football on television. I'm all for heading over to any stadium to watch a game so long as it is affordable. TV is a totally different matter.

I tend to agree with you, I find that I have a better time in Doak stadium watching the 'noles live than I do at an NFL stadium. College games are just much better when you are there, whereas I find that I almost prefer just watching NFL games at home. College games tend to be a lot more fluid than pro, and for some reason that just makes them more fun to attend in person to me.

shardian · « **Reply #57 on:** September 17, 2009, 04:42:28 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on September 17, 2009, 04:17:54 pm

Most of that applies to live college football. Not much of it applies to college football on television. I'm all for heading over to any stadium to watch a game so long as it is affordable. TV is a totally different matter.

I think alot of it comes through the TV. I also think marching band music is a cool feature of college ball. I have my team's fight song as my ringtone during the football season, and all of my coworkers have their team as their ringtone.

ChadTower · « **Reply #58 on:** September 17, 2009, 04:55:25 pm »

I wonder how much that applies moreso to people who live in areas that don't have NFL teams to begin with. I never knew the fight song or cared about the team at either major university I went to. It didn't help that our tuition got knocked up substantially right after the NCAA came in and stripped our school of a final four appearance because a guy everyone knew was being paid made it to the NBA and then said "oh, yeah, they paid me, well duh". It wasn't the actual students' fault but we all got whacked by the tuition increase anyway when the school had to repay something like a million dollars in TV revenue from those games.

You just don't see all that many college football fanatics up here. We might have more college football programs here than anyplace in the country, too, but even when they were 2-14 football was all about the Patriots.

Flake · « **Reply #59 on:** September 17, 2009, 05:38:29 pm »

Quote from: shardian on September 17, 2009, 03:59:07 pm

So do you guys just sit around ALL DAY on Saturday and Sunday watching football?

NFL only - but yes on Sunday I park my butt downstairs and watch games all day long. When the Rams arent in town usually others come over and we eat totally unhealthy food, drink beer and talk trash all day long. Its great.

I make sure all work is done before Sunday.

ChadTower · « **Reply #60 on:** September 28, 2009, 10:41:49 am »

Yesterday Leftwich had as incompetent a game as I've ever seen an NFL QB have. That was just a straight up turd. Byron Leftwich is a loser.

Please, please, please start Josh Johnson next week. He can't possibly be less effective than Leftwich and looked way better on the one drive he ran yesterday.

Flake · « **Reply #61 on:** September 28, 2009, 12:12:03 pm »

Who's worse, TB/STL/KC/OAK/CLE?

I say KC is probably the best of that sorry bunch with TB or STL bringing up the rear.

Malenko · « **Reply #62 on:** September 28, 2009, 12:33:38 pm »

Was reading over the thread... I have regular cable with Comcast and there's more then enough football on TV for me, but it feel like this season the NFL is loading up on Sundays and showing 5 games at the same time twice a day on Sunday. Have there been any Saturday games? I admit it would be great to see a few more games but I don't have a spare nickle to drop on getting a sports package BUT the $5 a month is probably the best deal Comcast offers (I'm a huge hockey fan too). I can say I'm a little disappointing my new big screen TV doesn't have picture in picture like my old one did.

As for the previously mentioned college game fascination, I think its better if you don't have a team to root on. I enjoy watching random college football teams play, *most* of the time its a good close game and the players seem to actually care. Of course I live in Delaware and the "Fighting Blue Hens" are a Division AA Team and we have no pro teams in any sport. the only good thing about Delaware is we get all the Baltimore and Philadelphia pro games on the local channels.

shardian · « **Reply #63 on:** September 28, 2009, 12:40:22 pm »

Congrats Chad, Leftwich got benched. I think it is safe to say that I agree with you now...

ChadTower · « **Reply #64 on:** September 28, 2009, 12:50:57 pm »

I will believe it when Johnson is under center after the opening kickoff. Morris also said McCown was going to get a true shot at the job. Dude never had a chance and we see how that process has turned out.

ChadTower · « **Reply #65 on:** September 28, 2009, 01:20:31 pm »

BTW, this week against the Redskins is probably the best shot at a win the Bucs have for weeks. I mean these dudes just lost to the Lions.

shardian · « **Reply #66 on:** September 28, 2009, 01:23:40 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on September 28, 2009, 01:20:31 pm

BTW, this week against the Redskins is probably the best shot at a win the Bucs have for weeks. I mean these dudes just lost to the Lions.

They didn't just lose to the Lions, they made the Lions look pretty damn good. THAT is sad.

ChadTower · « **Reply #67 on:** September 28, 2009, 02:38:54 pm »

Quote from: Flake on September 28, 2009, 12:12:03 pm

Who's worse, TB/STL/KC/OAK/CLE?

Cleveland is -66 in point differential in 3 games. Easily the worst in the NFL. No one else is even close.

shardian · « **Reply #68 on:** September 28, 2009, 02:40:53 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on September 28, 2009, 02:38:54 pm

Quote from: Flake on September 28, 2009, 12:12:03 pm
Who's worse, TB/STL/KC/OAK/CLE?

Cleveland is -66 in point differential in 3 games. Easily the worst in the NFL. No one else is even close.

No doubt, Cleveland is the worst. I agree with the front page CNN/SI article that they need to put Cribbs in at QB. I remember watching him in College - he was just like Vick.

ChadTower · « **Reply #69 on:** September 28, 2009, 02:43:27 pm »

Behind that OL Steve Young couldn't get yardage. They do need to put Cribbs in at WR more, though.

Flake · « **Reply #70 on:** September 28, 2009, 04:59:43 pm »

I wish all Mangini led teams the worst. Maybe its me but he just reeks of unjustified arrogance......trying to emulate the Belichick system and failing miserably. But I hate Belicheat too....so maybe thats why.

LLUncoolJ · « **Reply #71 on:** September 30, 2009, 09:43:18 am »

STL is keeping the dream alive by cutting Hollis Thomas today (The dream being drafting a QB with the #1 overall pick). But if they keep starting Boller, they could mess around and try to compete in a few games. There are certainly a lot of turds this year, so it is going to be rough going to get that #1 spot.

ChadTower · « **Reply #72 on:** September 30, 2009, 09:48:32 am »

You know they're just going to take a D lineman.

ChadTower · « **Reply #73 on:** October 26, 2009, 10:43:06 am »

Quote from: ChadTower on September 08, 2009, 03:40:32 pm

Freeman will be starting by the Packers game because:

1) That follows the prison raping they will get from the Patriots in London.
2) That follows their bye week.
3) Leftwich isn't very good.
4) They will probably be 1-6 by then anyway.

Freeman debuted in the 4th quarter against the Pats. Expect him to start against the Packers after the bye.

I still say 0-16 won't happen. At least they aren't the worst in the NFL - that has to be either St Louis or Tennessee.

shardian · « **Reply #74 on:** October 26, 2009, 11:05:49 am »

Apparently Leftwich wasn't the problem huh?

ChadTower · « **Reply #75 on:** October 26, 2009, 11:11:36 am »

Quote from: shardian on October 26, 2009, 11:05:49 am

Apparently Leftwich wasn't the problem huh?

Leftwich the veteran should be expected to produce a lot more than a 5th round pick making his first NFL starts, don't you think? Johnson did play better than Leftwich anyway. Leftwich's final game was horror movie bad.

hypernova · « **Reply #76 on:** October 26, 2009, 06:54:10 pm »

No way Tennessee is the worst. Not when St. Louis is around.

Cleveland may have won a game, but really, did they win the game, or did Buffalo just lose the game? Cleveland should still be considered as well.

ChadTower · « **Reply #77 on:** October 26, 2009, 07:10:42 pm »

That's a good point. Buffalo is a creative loser.

hypernova · « **Reply #78 on:** October 29, 2009, 09:47:07 pm »

Saint Louis has their best chance so far this week against Detroit.

ChadTower · « **Reply #79 on:** October 30, 2009, 10:36:14 am »

Wow that's going to be a hard game to watch even for their fans.


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