Author Topic: Was it a good trade part 2 ! (Read 14252 times)

PC? Serial? USB? DC?

it could probably use another button or so unless it's a 6 button serial joystick.

Small sticks can be nice and more portable... cool...

SNAAAKE · « **Reply #9 on:** July 07, 2003, 03:11:39 pm »

Quote from: armad1ll0 on July 07, 2003, 02:44:06 pm

PC? Serial? USB? DC?

it could probably use another button or so unless it's a 6 button serial joystick.

Small sticks can be nice and more portable... cool...

ps2..start and select are on the side..sneaky !

Actually the buyer wanted it like that.
so less "button covering artwork".

Brax · « **Reply #10 on:** July 09, 2003, 07:39:29 am »

Who's the guy in the red? That's like a SUPER Mullet!

Frostillicus · « **Reply #11 on:** July 09, 2003, 07:41:12 am »

Quote from: Brax on July 09, 2003, 07:39:29 am

Who's the guy in the red? That's like a SUPER Mullet!

That's 'Kamaro Ken'

SNAAAKE · « **Reply #12 on:** July 10, 2003, 06:31:37 pm »

There is another...forgot to take final picture..oh well !

F|end · « **Reply #13 on:** July 24, 2003, 06:07:55 am »

How man, that foot looks just like real! Are you a plastic surgeon?!

Err, what's that thing that stands beside the foot?!

SNAAAKE · « **Reply #14 on:** July 30, 2003, 12:54:06 am »

Friend's . . . . .

SirPoonga · « **Reply #15 on:** July 30, 2003, 01:11:23 am »

That's cool. How aobut a different challenge. Design around the joystick and buttons so they are incorporated into the theme.

Magnet_Eye · « **Reply #16 on:** July 30, 2003, 02:02:34 am »

yeah exactly, instead of just dropping in some background art.

how many of these things you making? freak!

Brax · « **Reply #17 on:** July 30, 2003, 12:29:51 pm »

Quote from: SirPoonga on July 30, 2003, 01:11:23 am

That's cool. How aobut a different challenge. Design around the joystick and buttons so they are incorporated into the theme.

First we had to worry about Ken's hands and now you want him to have a giant joystick wang? hehe

SNAAAKE · « **Reply #18 on:** July 30, 2003, 02:10:26 pm »

Quote from: SirPoonga on July 30, 2003, 01:11:23 am

That's cool. How aobut a different challenge. Design around the joystick and buttons so they are incorporated into the theme.

Maybe.
*yawns*... the dude wanted it like that so whatever.
Maybe something different for other sticks.

tmasman · « **Reply #19 on:** July 30, 2003, 02:58:28 pm »

hm...
You're building a ton of these things for people...
What do you conect all the controls with?
PS2 Hack, Keyboard hack, other encoder, etc???
I've got a few friends interested in a little control box like that
but I'm not sure what the best/easiest control to hack would be.

Thus far, I've only hacked a keyboard & that was easy enough for me.
Just takes a couple of hours to solder/wire/map the matrix/ & figure out the
best keys for it.

But I know this is 10 times more than I would need for, say a sidewinder.

What's the best control to hack?

AlanS17 · « **Reply #20 on:** July 30, 2003, 03:56:01 pm »

That is actually a redoctane controller with added artwork. He may have replaced the controls with higher quality stuff, but it comes built for playstation. It would only be a matter of extending the leads for use with different controls. Otherwise, he may even be using the same controls the came with it.

Either way, it was born as a Playstation controller. I think redoctane sells them on their website for like $30 or something cheap like that.

steve_pss · « **Reply #21 on:** July 30, 2003, 04:45:37 pm »

They make a foot for the playstation? Japs are a odd people..

SNAAAKE · « **Reply #22 on:** July 30, 2003, 06:06:06 pm »

Quote from: tmasman on July 30, 2003, 02:58:28 pm

hm...
You're building a ton of these things for people...
What do you conect all the controls with?
PS2 Hack, Keyboard hack, other encoder, etc???
I've got a few friends interested in a little control box like that
but I'm not sure what the best/easiest control to hack would be.

Thus far, I've only hacked a keyboard & that was easy enough for me.
Just takes a couple of hours to solder/wire/map the matrix/ & figure out the
best keys for it.

But I know this is 10 times more than I would need for, say a sidewinder.

What's the best control to hack?

PS hack.
Very easy !
Can you really beat the "$1.99" special...lol (ebgames).
they had em on sale so I bought all of them.

Quote from: AlanS17 on July 30, 2003, 03:56:01 pm

That is actually a redoctane controller with added artwork. He may have replaced the controls with higher quality stuff, but it comes built for playstation. It would only be a matter of extending the leads for use with different controls. Otherwise, he may even be using the same controls the came with it.

Either way, it was born as a Playstation controller. I think redoctane sells them on their website for like $30 or something cheap like that.

Ummm...

Really think I bought prebuild boxes...lol (

).
...Look carefully.

armad1ll0 · « **Reply #23 on:** August 01, 2003, 04:01:00 am »

No they aren't pre-made redoctane boxes. But didn't you mention to me that you were going to do that?

Redoctane now actually sells their boxes as a DIY kit. You put in your own stuff for. It's only $20 and $20 new with the PSOne PCB w/ crappy controls.

If anyone wants a DIY box, you should check it out.

armad1ll0 · « **Reply #24 on:** August 01, 2003, 04:04:25 am »

Quote from: steve_pss on July 30, 2003, 04:45:37 pm

They make a foot for the playstation? Japs are a odd people..

Japs?

I'm not Japanese but I'm not going to let that one go. So what do you call your own ethnicity?

Amra · « **Reply #25 on:** August 01, 2003, 04:11:34 am »

I dunno about other people... but Im a Mutt. Genetically speaking that means I have three or more ethnic backgrounds, so why Pick one when i could just call myself a mutt. Scots-Irish, German, Native American, Welsh... does it really matter?

IIOIOOIOO · « **Reply #26 on:** August 01, 2003, 10:06:06 am »

Not to throw myself into the center of a pitched conflict, but he was almost certainly intending to refer to Japanese, as is Nationals of Japan. In that context, his comments are almost as horrific as calling canadians Canucks. Personally, I've always found the "Jap" family of ETHNIC slurs particularly offensive because they're generally applied cross-culturally. I.E. Everyone from that entire region ends up becoming a "Jap." Had he said something more like this, I'm sure the entire world would've recoiled in rage. But he didn't. At least it's a good thing he doesn't still think of Japan as Nippon, righ?

Amra · « **Reply #27 on:** August 01, 2003, 04:50:59 pm »

...or a gook!

Brax · « **Reply #28 on:** August 01, 2003, 06:27:53 pm »

I guess you just need to be more famous to get away with it.

-Foo Fighters.

IIOIOOIOO · « **Reply #29 on:** August 01, 2003, 11:21:04 pm »

Oh man, I just always assumed the foo fighters were programmers.

Now I feel silly...

Oh, and Amra... seriously. I take great pride in getting people a little bit riled up. Heck, it's almost a hobby. But your approach is crude and unwarranted.

Amra · « **Reply #30 on:** August 01, 2003, 11:41:50 pm »

I didnt call them that, I dont believe in ethnicity, I only believe in nationality. For example, in America, we have Asians, Africans, Europeans, Middle Eastern, Australian, the list is almost endless... but they segregate themselves, because as far as Im concerned, they are all just Americans, and if they take offence to some racial slur, then it does nothing but show their insecurity with being the person they are. I dont call people Japs, Gooks, ---Bad words, bad words, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when saint censors you?--- or Spics that is archaic. It doesnt define who they are, it is simply a stereotypical association that people made a long time ago.

If I call you American, would you be pissed because you are ethnically "Native American" or "African American" or even "Asian American"... if you do then it is you who have the problem, not me.

The sooner people stop putting labels on themselves, the better.

Oh, and I wasnt calling anyone a gook, I was simply giving another example of things that Japanese find offensive, so that people dont use it.

And I must still be living in the past, because I thought all the Islands east of Asia were in the Nippon Monarchy... Ah well... :\

SNAAAKE · « **Reply #31 on:** August 02, 2003, 12:12:46 am »

errr..wtf is goin on here !

C'mon people...who gives a damn about nationality..I am Italian american(does it matter?).

How about another one !

jakejake28 · « **Reply #32 on:** August 02, 2003, 12:41:30 am »

man, snaake, i still say you gotta go into business. betcha could steal the x-arcade crowd in an instant with "non-cheapo buttons and sticks" and "quality art". not to mention the prices you could sell 'em at.

on a serious note, do you have a figure for how many of these things u have made? just interested.

traknfieldSUPAstar · « **Reply #33 on:** August 02, 2003, 03:30:39 am »

geez snaaake... you're crankin out these joysticks like krispe kreme cranks out donuts...

SirPeale · « **Reply #34 on:** August 02, 2003, 09:40:50 am »

Okay, so let me get this straight. You make these one player USB control panels for people. They certainly look pretty. My question is this: how do you use it? Do you put it on a desk and play? On the floor? I know when I play fighting games, I like my arms to be straight. Show me a pic of you playing a game with one of these.

SNAAAKE · « **Reply #35 on:** August 02, 2003, 04:04:54 pm »

Quote from: jakejake28 on August 02, 2003, 12:41:30 am

man, snaake, i still say you gotta go into business. betcha could steal the x-arcade crowd in an instant with "non-cheapo buttons and sticks" and "quality art". not to mention the prices you could sell 'em at.

on a serious note, do you have a figure for how many of these things u have made? just interested.

Around 20-25 them.
I build some others before that I never took pictures of (no camera).
FUN !

Quote from: Peale on August 02, 2003, 09:40:50 am

Okay, so let me get this straight. You make these one player USB control panels for people. They certainly look pretty. My question is this: how do you use it? Do you put it on a desk and play? On the floor? I know when I play fighting games, I like my arms to be straight. Show me a pic of you playing a game with one of these.

No,they are all for psx/ps2.
start and select buttons are on the sides.
Put on carpet and play.....

MiKman · « **Reply #36 on:** August 02, 2003, 04:27:07 pm »

Quote

No,they are all for psx/ps2.
start and select buttons are on the sides.
Put on carpet and play.....

Quote

So how do you interface with the psx/ps2? got a pic of one of the insides of one of these babies? there is no ipac in there is there?

MiKman

jakejake28 · « **Reply #37 on:** August 02, 2003, 06:38:15 pm »

no, he uses hacked psone pads. i used them in a cp i built for a friend and they work really well on ps and dc. there pretty straightforward to hack, and you can get a start and select, plus 8 buttons and a d-pad. really cool to use for a multi-console pad.

Molloy · « **Reply #38 on:** August 03, 2003, 04:09:45 am »

There's nothing more tedious than being offended for other people. If there are any Japanese here who take offence then talk up. I don't think the abbreviation 'jap' is innapropriate.

I'm Irish and you can call me whatever you like.

The Magneto artwork came out nicely. Nice work Snaaake.

armad1ll0 · « **Reply #39 on:** August 04, 2003, 03:06:39 pm »

these sticks really have come a long way since your originals that you made and posted project sites for.

SNAAAKE · « **Reply #40 on:** August 12, 2003, 01:21:50 am »

About 5 hours of work.

Btw that black one is for a girl(yes,serious).
Even girls play arcades now a day...

tmasman · « **Reply #41 on:** August 12, 2003, 09:08:41 am »

Hey SNAAAKE...
I really would like to see a pic of the insides onf one of these...
Do you hinge the top, or just screw it down?
Do you use a terminal strip, or just wire PS points directly to the buttons?
It's definately looking like you're the local "expert" on stand alone PS control boxes.

Another Question... Do the PS controllers work with PS2???
I don't have either, but I have a few friends with PS2s.

Also, have you ever tried to hack the analogs into a CP???
Just curious...

SNAAAKE · « **Reply #42 on:** August 12, 2003, 05:31:20 pm »

Quote from: tmasman on August 12, 2003, 09:08:41 am

Hey SNAAAKE...
I really would like to see a pic of the insides onf one of these...
Do you hinge the top, or just screw it down?
Do you use a terminal strip, or just wire PS points directly to the buttons?
It's definately looking like you're the local "expert" on stand alone PS control boxes.

Another Question... Do the PS controllers work with PS2???
I don't have either, but I have a few friends with PS2s.

Also, have you ever tried to hack the analogs into a CP???
Just curious...

Yes will take a pic when I wire em up tonight.
No hings.just tacks.
No terminal strip(waste of money).
I use digital pads and works with ps2 as well.

Never hacked analog.

CthulhuLuke · « **Reply #43 on:** August 13, 2003, 04:56:19 am »

all psx pads will work with ps2s, its the same pin input. The one hacked psx analog job that sticks out in my mind is M3talslug's work with his 2 player control panel. http://tobywong.50megs.com/ Very nice artwork, two ikari warriors joysticks hacked to analog psx controllers, and works with Druin's interface, and the joysticks are hooked up to the d-pad plus an i-pac. Very very nice composition on the entire box as well.
btw, snaaaake, dont tell me that stick was for GoukiGirl... damn she's annoying, looks like your enterprise is growing though.

SNAAAKE · « **Reply #44 on:** August 13, 2003, 11:47:04 pm »

Quote from: CthulhuLuke on August 13, 2003, 04:56:19 am

btw, snaaaake, dont tell me that stick was for GoukiGirl... damn she's annoying, looks like your enterprise is growing though.

Meh...she is okay no problem.

Looks hot to me...
The stick is for her sister.

her brother is kinda annoying(many questions).

AND we have another one.

tmasman · « **Reply #45 on:** August 14, 2003, 09:49:07 am »

Not trying to be annoying (But I'm sure I am...

)
PS controllers have 4 main buttons & 4 "top" buttons (L1,L2,R1,R2)...
What layout are you using for your 6 buttons?

Maybe since I don't have a PS2 I'm missing something, but it seams like
you'd be leaving out some critical functions if you left out buttons.
(Or at least make it really hard to play some games...)

Then again, the only games I've played on PS2 are the FPSers like Nightfire & Splinter type games.
These controllers would seem to be useless with these games (no analog)...

What games are played with these controllers most? (I'm assuming mostly Fighting games, but I'm really curious).

Again, sorry for the "20 questions", these are just things I've pondered & have yet to figure out.
Thanks!

~ tmasman

Molloy · « **Reply #46 on:** August 14, 2003, 06:54:40 pm »

None of the fighters or shmups on PS, XBox, GC use more than 6 buttons.

Some people seem to want to play FPS and other things on their arcade cabinets.. but that just silly. It's the completely wrong interface.

SNAAAKE · « **Reply #47 on:** August 16, 2003, 06:23:30 pm »

Quote from: tmasman on August 14, 2003, 09:49:07 am

Not trying to be annoying (But I'm sure I am... )
PS controllers have 4 main buttons & 4 "top" buttons (L1,L2,R1,R2)...
What layout are you using for your 6 buttons?

Maybe since I don't have a PS2 I'm missing something, but it seams like
you'd be leaving out some critical functions if you left out buttons.
(Or at least make it really hard to play some games...)

Then again, the only games I've played on PS2 are the FPSers like Nightfire & Splinter type games.
These controllers would seem to be useless with these games (no analog)...

What games are played with these controllers most? (I'm assuming mostly Fighting games, but I'm really curious).

Again, sorry for the "20 questions", these are just things I've pondered & have yet to figure out.
Thanks!

~ tmasman

Most fighters use 6 buttons.
I am leaving out L2 and R2.
you dont use a joystick to play splinter cell...duh

these are ONLY for fighters...like marvel vs capcom 2.

ThePaul · « **Reply #48 on:** August 16, 2003, 11:47:16 pm »

Snaaake,

Is there any chance you would be willing to share you awesome artwork for use in our cp overlays?

SNAAAKE · « **Reply #49 on:** August 17, 2003, 12:52:30 am »

Quote from: ThePaul on August 16, 2003, 11:47:16 pm

Snaaake,

Is there any chance you would be willing to share you awesome artwork for use in our cp overlays?

uhh..which one ?

check my site..uploaded some there and the new onces by request.

Here are the others.

http://myarcadepictures.bizhosting.com/cgi-bin/image/templates/cvs2.jpg

http://myarcadepictures.bizhosting.com/cgi-bin/image/templates/mvsc2-600.jpg

attached the red one as well

Need higer res,drop me a line.

SNAAAKE · « **Reply #50 on:** August 29, 2003, 03:42:23 pm »

.....

7 more....took a day(no wiriing)

kspiff · « **Reply #51 on:** August 30, 2003, 04:33:25 am »

Hey, SNAAAKE, that reminds me.. sell me a GCN fighter stick so I can play SC2 LOL

.. seriously, I need to make one and soon

grafixmonkey · « **Reply #52 on:** August 31, 2003, 03:13:03 am »

Quote from: Molloy on August 03, 2003, 04:09:45 am

There's nothing more tedious than being offended for other people. If there are any Japanese here who take offence then talk up. I don't think the abbreviation 'jap' is innapropriate.

I'm Irish and you can call me whatever you like.

The Magneto artwork came out nicely. Nice work Snaaake.

You know what, I have lots of friends from that area (all over) and I don't think they'd be nearly as easy to offend as that. They toss around all kinds of racial crap, sometimes even seem to enjoy their stereotypes. One of 'em made up a rap about white rice. They all know people won't really assume anything about them on a personal level based on that stuff.

"Japs" is what we called them when we were trying our best to kill them in WWII. That's why it's derogatory. But, I don't think whoever posted that was thinking along those lines at all. Just a coincidence people!

Besides, an invention called the "transistor" wouldn't have gotten off the ground if one of their teams hadn't picked it up and figured out a way to use it commercially. The company that did invented the transistor radio, and was called Sony. Ain't nobody here gonna honestly diss the Japanese for thinking outside the box!

SNAAAKE · « **Reply #53 on:** September 01, 2003, 02:39:48 am »

Thoughts ?
Was it a fair trade ?
Traded this case with artwork for the x-box(no I didnt have one).
some dude decided to get rid of his box...

Gromet · « **Reply #54 on:** September 02, 2003, 02:06:20 pm »

Whats your cost for pruducing these? Including time...?

hyiu · « **Reply #55 on:** September 02, 2003, 03:17:25 pm »

just the box and artwork... traded an xbox ??...

no interface ?? no controls ??

xbox... used... I donno how much it costs....
but it sounded like a good deal.....

SNAAAKE · « **Reply #56 on:** September 02, 2003, 04:07:02 pm »

about 3 hours of work.
cost was about $25.

$13 artwork
$7 lexan
$5 wood+laminate+molding(had some laying around)
No controls or interface ...

Yes the x-box is used.

Krynos · « **Reply #57 on:** September 02, 2003, 06:22:45 pm »

Sounds like a good deal to me.

- Krynos

Ahi_Tuna · « **Reply #58 on:** September 03, 2003, 09:34:41 pm »

do you paint your wood or use black melamine?

SNAAAKE · « **Reply #59 on:** September 04, 2003, 05:55:18 pm »

Quote from: Ahi_Tuna on September 03, 2003, 09:34:41 pm

do you paint your wood or use black melamine?

Laminate.I have some left over from the cab(LOTS of it)

SNAAAKE · « **Reply #60 on:** September 07, 2003, 09:15:04 pm »

Anybody has any request,drop me a line and I will upload any artwork I am using on these sticks !

... hobby

davellaman · « **Reply #61 on:** October 03, 2003, 01:36:06 pm »

What do you print the artwork on? and....What glue do you use to apply it to the wood?

Thanks,

Mark

hyiu · « **Reply #62 on:** October 03, 2003, 01:54:31 pm »

I believe he has a piece of lexan / plexi on top... so, no need to glue the artwork.....

snaaake.... at this rate... you're going to make 1000 sticks before end of yr.....

when will you open an international custom stick company ??.... remember to give me some options....


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