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Um... a billion?
« on: May 20, 2009, 08:55:08 pm »
So I am at best an average pinball player. I don't play very often, and when I do it is normally an average game. So this evening I was waiting for my pizza to be ready, and I noticed that there was a free credit sitting on the Attack from Mars game - so I played. Well, I started to play anyway...

I didn't play for more than 10 minutes, and on my first ball scored 1.69 billion points. And by the end of the ball my pizza was waiting for me, so I hurried it up. Now I know that with inflation these days the scores have been inflated too. But this is kinda ridiculous. I mean almost 2 billion points on my first ball? Talk about de-sensitivity. Sheesh.

Just an observation from a relatively clueless person. You can move along now if you wish.

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Re: Um... a billion?
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2009, 09:27:19 pm »
It is rather amusing. I own an Attack from Mars and my current hi-score is 58 Billion. I don't know if it is the ultimate score inflation pin, but it's gotta be up there.
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Re: Um... a billion?
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2009, 01:40:34 am »
I dont like it because it costs so much ---smurfing--- money, other than that its damn cool.
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Re: Um... a billion?
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2009, 09:14:19 am »

OTOH, a billion is a serious achievement on Revenge From Mars.  I seem to be averaging around 100-200 mill these days.

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Re: Um... a billion?
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2009, 10:08:50 am »

I'm looking for a Video Pinball to put next to it.  Just so jim will be happy. 

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Re: Um... a billion?
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2009, 10:18:01 am »
Not walking away from Revenge from Mars in the middle of a game is a serious achievement, too.


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Re: Um... a billion?
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2009, 11:14:12 am »
That's part of the humor for Attack From Mars. The scoring is intentionally inflated just to add to the whole silliness of the theme.
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Re: Um... a billion?
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2009, 08:10:51 am »
Now that I understand the absolute joys of old school playfield multipliers, I find them much more enjoyable than newer games that have you mindlessly shoot 1-2 ramps. Nothing beats maxing out the 5x PF multiplier and then just going to town on targets.

On my pin, 150 k is the usual outcome without getting significant bonus multipliers. The best I have done is just shy of 500k. Since I moved the pin to its permanent location, me or the wife can't score for crap. I need to adjust the playfield slope or something.


I assume the score inflations are to encourage non-pin players to dump more money.

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Re: Um... a billion?
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2009, 10:29:23 am »

Pretty much the only thing I like on those games that you can't get on the earlier SS games is a good lightshow.  That's fun.  It's not worth an extra $750, though.

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Re: Um... a billion?
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2009, 10:42:46 am »

Pretty much the only thing I like on those games that you can't get on the earlier SS games is a good lightshow.  That's fun.  It's not worth an extra $750, though.

Exactly. Good thing my aftermarket CPU maximizes the hell out of the light show possibilities of my 1st gen SS to take care of that problem.

I still want a funhouse just for the visual experience - one of the best visual eye candy pins IMO.

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Re: Um... a billion?
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2009, 11:21:36 am »
I assume the score inflations are to encourage non-pin players to dump more money.

This is what I assumed too, but (in my case anyway) it had the opposite effect. I was put off by the ridiculous scoring. Somewhere in between 10 points per drop target and 10 million must be the sweet spot.

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Re: Um... a billion?
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2009, 11:56:39 am »
I assume the score inflations are to encourage non-pin players to dump more money.

This is what I assumed too, but (in my case anyway) it had the opposite effect. I was put off by the ridiculous scoring. Somewhere in between 10 points per drop target and 10 million must be the sweet spot.

I always assumed (in the DMD era at least) it was mostly arbitrary. ON EM & even older SS machines it cost money to make a larger score possible - adding extra scoring reels, or larger numeric displays. One of the things a DMD would allow a programmer to do, is exactly what you see with AFM - ridiculously high scores. I can't think of any machines contemporary to AFM that took it to that extreme.

And it's hardly confined to pinball - just look at the way scoring has inflated in video games over the years. 

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Re: Um... a billion?
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2009, 02:42:21 pm »
You guys are still not getting it. AFM's inflated numbers aren't to suck anybody in, they're part of the theme of the game. It's just a bit of humor.

Non-pinball players would say, "oh sweet, I got 2 billion!" ...and then the high scores would come across and they'd notice that 350 billion is a decent score. The gimmick is just a joke, not an actual attempt to pull one over on anybody.
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Re: Um... a billion?
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2009, 05:43:26 pm »
We know


...and we still think it's stupid.

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Re: Um... a billion?
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2009, 05:49:04 pm »
We know



...and yet you are still acting like you don't.

What's the big deal about scoring anyway? With arcade games you generally can't compare 1 million points to another game's 1 million points. Why should pinball be all that different? One thing that makes a lot of games different from one another is how they handle bonuses, multipliers, and jackpots. If scoring was more or less uniform, a lot of excitement from discovering the different game modes would be diminished.
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Re: Um... a billion?
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2009, 08:47:11 pm »
We know



...and yet you are still acting like you don't.

What's the big deal about scoring anyway? With arcade games you generally can't compare 1 million points to another game's 1 million points. Why should pinball be all that different? One thing that makes a lot of games different from one another is how they handle bonuses, multipliers, and jackpots. If scoring was more or less uniform, a lot of excitement from discovering the different game modes would be diminished.

Off the top of my head, I can get multiple billion in Scared Stiff, and Whodunnit. A billion point game is a good day on scared stiff, but pretty much a guarantee if you get the wizard mode.

Attack from Mars leaves these games in the dust though.