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7 dead 16 wounded at attack on Dutch queensday.
« on: April 30, 2009, 08:24:51 am »
Some ---uvula--- tried to hit the bus with the royal family with his car on "Queens day" in the Netherlands. It's a national holiday here. The man drove straight through the crowd killing at least 2 people and 12 injured. He did not hit the bus in which the royal family was on.

All festivities have been cancelled.

I fear it's the end of a tradition, an event like this is almost impossible to do safely anymore.....

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/04/30/netherlands.queen.car/index.html
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Re: 4 dead 16 wounded at attack on Dutch queensday.
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2009, 12:58:31 pm »
Damn.... what a shame.
I hadn't heard about that incident yet.
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Re: 4 dead 16 wounded at attack on Dutch queensday.
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2009, 04:25:14 pm »
You guys have a royal family?

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You just have a way with words I tell ya.

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Re: 4 dead 16 wounded at attack on Dutch queensday.
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2009, 04:29:07 pm »
You guys have a royal family?

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You just have a way with words I tell ya.


In France it's a Royal family w/ cheese.

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Re: 4 dead 16 wounded at attack on Dutch queensday.
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2009, 04:53:32 pm »
You guys have a royal family?

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Oh look, a post with an attempted assassination, 4 dead people, and 16 wounder. Let's laugh.  :dunno

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Re: 4 dead 16 wounded at attack on Dutch queensday.
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2009, 04:58:29 pm »
Oh look, a post with an attempted assassination, 4 dead people, and 16 wounder. Let's laugh.  :dunno

Dude, WTF?

You're surprised?

Seriously, if I didn't know better I would think Jim's real name is Adam Holmes. That punk ass kid from high school always had a smirky joke at all the wrong times. He got his ass kicked on multiple occasions for it too. I personally pulled 2 different people off him.

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Re: 4 dead 16 wounded at attack on Dutch queensday.
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2009, 05:11:01 pm »
I personally pulled 2 different people off him, then proceeded to pummel him myself.

Fixed.

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Re: 4 dead 16 wounded at attack on Dutch queensday.
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2009, 08:28:41 am »
I personally pulled 2 different people off him, then proceeded to pummel him myself.

Fixed.

Unfortunately, I was in an authoritative role and couldn't join in on the fun.

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Re: 4 dead 16 wounded at attack on Dutch queensday.
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2009, 03:49:53 pm »
You guys have a royal family?

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Oh look, a post with an attempted assassination, 4 dead people, and 16 wounder. Let's laugh.  :dunno

Dude, WTF?

Yeah, I agree, that statement just wasn't cool in any way.
Some of us could take something like that personally...... literally.
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Re: 4 dead 16 wounded at attack on Dutch queensday.
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2009, 04:45:53 pm »
i belive pinballsjim is jokin about the royalty deal and not dead people, so as the pic reads my friends.........

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Re: 4 dead 16 wounded at attack on Dutch queensday.
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2009, 04:53:03 pm »
i belive pinballsjim is jokin about the royalty deal and not dead people, so as the pic reads my friends.........

Oh, to be new and naive.  ;)

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Re: 4 dead 16 wounded at attack on Dutch queensday.
« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2009, 10:42:57 pm »
You guys have a royal family?

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Re: 4 dead 16 wounded at attack on Dutch queensday.
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2009, 02:32:18 am »
The media coverage was the worst I have seen in years. I ignored it all, and waited for the late-night NRC paper to read quietly some decent journalism. Even the NRC was biased quite a bit!
First of all, it was no assault on the Royal family. Hey! driving a 600kg Suzuki Swift into a double-decker BUS? That's gonna hurt plenty! If he planned to do that and figured out the complete scenario of that day, guess he would be smart enough to rent a Hummer.
It was an attack on people like you and me WATCHING the royal family, by a fired unknown lonely sad man. And THAT is really really sad.

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Re: 4 dead 16 wounded at attack on Dutch queensday.
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2009, 02:36:37 am »
All festivities have been cancelled.

In Eindhoven they only cancelled Felix da Housecat at 22.30 in the Evening. And even by then the majority of the crowd did not know what happened. Felix was very surprised. They paid him so much, he did not get it. I wonder where the 2.3 million people who saw it on TV were? Not in the south of the Netherlands at least. The weather was too good to go inside for dumb talk on the TV.

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Re: 4 dead 16 wounded at attack on Dutch queensday.
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2009, 12:45:21 pm »
No disrespect intended towards the innocent victims, but I think it's sad people congregated to watch the 'royal' family. 

No more so than the President.

Can't wait until the next time a Dutch person tells me how much more enlightened and progressive their society is than America. 

Ok, now you've just struck my curiosity......... what's your point ?
Some of us "Americans" have close ties to folks in Holland. (immediate family)
All be it this may not be the best place to discuss pro and cons of each society, but I'm certain Hollands 'royal' family has been doing a much better job at it than we have in more ways than one. Ya know the whole "for the people" phrase that gets thrown around here a lot..... well, it does actually mean something in other places.
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Re: 4 dead 16 wounded at attack on Dutch queensday.
« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2009, 01:31:31 pm »
You guys have a royal family?

 :laugh2:

Oh look, a post with an attempted assassination, 4 dead people, and 16 wounder. Let's laugh.  :dunno

Dude, WTF?
You not banning him has the whole board saying WTF?
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Re: 4 dead 16 wounded at attack on Dutch queensday.
« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2009, 01:32:54 pm »
No disrespect intended towards the innocent victims, but I think it's sad people congregated to watch the 'royal' family. 

No more so than the President.


The president is elected.


So we're only allowed to watch elected people?  ::)

People roll out in droves to watch a film premiere or those retarded Oscar ceremonies. How is it weird that people show up for a national holiday where the queens birthday is celebrated?

It's not just watching the royals, it's a tradition. Similar to a whole population deciding to carve one of these disgusting turkeys on a fixed date every year.

BTW By now it's 7 dead, including the guy who did it.
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Re: 4 dead 16 wounded at attack on Dutch queensday.
« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2009, 04:41:16 pm »
You not banning him has the whole board saying WTF?

That might be a slight presumptuous, in more ways than one.



It's not just watching the royals, it's a tradition. Similar to a whole population deciding to carve one of these disgusting turkeys on a fixed date every year.

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Re: 4 dead 16 wounded at attack on Dutch queensday.
« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2009, 05:26:19 pm »

It's not just watching the royals, it's a tradition. Similar to a whole population deciding to carve one of these disgusting turkeys on a fixed date every year.

<.....bbbblinks> What's wrong with turkey, man?
That they're not very tasty?
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Re: 4 dead 16 wounded at attack on Dutch queensday.
« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2009, 05:51:31 pm »
That they're not very tasty?

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Re: 4 dead 16 wounded at attack on Dutch queensday.
« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2009, 06:08:04 pm »
Ehm no. You might make it eatable by adding a gallon of gravy or prepackage it with a ton of additives, but with the same success you can do that to tofu or cardboard.

Anyway, it's just an example of a tradition. Or do Americans eat a turkey everyday?
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Re: 4 dead 16 wounded at attack on Dutch queensday.
« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2009, 06:24:18 pm »
Ehm no. You might make it eatable by adding a gallon of gravy or prepackage it with a ton of additives, but with the same success you can do that to tofu or cardboard.


You need to do none of those things and it tastes great. 


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Anyway, it's just an example of a tradition. Or do Americans eat a turkey everyday?

They eat it more than once a year.  It's not a weekly occurrence but few things are.  A full turkey is a holiday thing but smaller pieces are common.  Hell in the south you can buy turkey legs off wheeled vendor carts.

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Re: 4 dead 16 wounded at attack on Dutch queensday.
« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2009, 07:10:24 pm »
How often do we cook entire pigs or entire cows or even entire chickens (actually I cook a whole chicken at least once every couple weeks, but chickens are small).  Rarely.  But that doesn't mean we don't eat turkey regularly.  Turkey and ham are BY FAR the most popular sandwich meats.  Americans eat turkey sandwiches far more frequently than chicken sandwiches, for example.  I bet that Subway (second largest fast food chain in America -- thus probably the world) goes through more turkey than any other meat.  That's just my gut feeling.  I could be wrong about that.

But yeah . . . turkey is yummy for sure.
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Re: 4 dead 16 wounded at attack on Dutch queensday.
« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2009, 07:19:16 pm »
Turkey and ham are BY FAR the most popular sandwich meats. 

Deli meat turkey is often usually pumped full of additives as patrickl suggested.  Doesn't really count. 

I ran a Subway for a while in college... the "meat" we used by far the most of was bologna.  So... much... bologna.

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« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2009, 08:47:15 pm »
That's just my gut feeling. 

You just really like Subway....
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Re: 4 dead 16 wounded at attack on Dutch queensday.
« Reply #25 on: May 02, 2009, 08:52:04 pm »

I ran a Subway for a while


One more thing to add to the list.   :laugh2:
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Re: 4 dead 16 wounded at attack on Dutch queensday.
« Reply #26 on: May 03, 2009, 01:11:20 am »
What's wrong with turkey, man?
Too much oestrogen
Like products with much soy in it.
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Those baby-food potions with lots of soy AND turkey in it are the worst for your little boy.
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« Reply #27 on: May 03, 2009, 01:11:56 am »
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Re: 4 dead 16 wounded at attack on Dutch queensday.
« Reply #28 on: May 03, 2009, 02:23:37 am »
How often do we cook entire pigs or entire cows or even entire chickens (actually I cook a whole chicken at least once every couple weeks, but chickens are small).  Rarely.  But that doesn't mean we don't eat turkey regularly.  Turkey and ham are BY FAR the most popular sandwich meats.  Americans eat turkey sandwiches far more frequently than chicken sandwiches, for example.  I bet that Subway (second largest fast food chain in America -- thus probably the world) goes through more turkey than any other meat.  That's just my gut feeling.  I could be wrong about that.

But yeah . . . turkey is yummy for sure.

americans do like turkey more than many other countries...


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Re: 4 dead 16 wounded at attack on Dutch queensday.
« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2009, 03:00:17 am »
How often do we cook entire pigs or entire cows or even entire chickens (actually I cook a whole chicken at least once every couple weeks, but chickens are small).  Rarely.  But that doesn't mean we don't eat turkey regularly.  Turkey and ham are BY FAR the most popular sandwich meats.  Americans eat turkey sandwiches far more frequently than chicken sandwiches, for example.  I bet that Subway (second largest fast food chain in America -- thus probably the world) goes through more turkey than any other meat.  That's just my gut feeling.  I could be wrong about that.

But yeah . . . turkey is yummy for sure.

americans do like turkey more than many other countries...
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Re: 4 dead 16 wounded at attack on Dutch queensday.
« Reply #30 on: May 03, 2009, 03:05:01 am »
In a bizarre display of "car-ism" people are now venting their anger on black Suzuki Swifts (the car used in the attack). Guess we were lucky it was a white Dutch guy who commited this crime. Although he had a Taxi Driver like mohawk.
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« Reply #31 on: May 03, 2009, 03:19:30 am »
WTF?  That's seriously weird.
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Re: 4 dead 16 wounded at attack on Dutch queensday.
« Reply #32 on: May 03, 2009, 06:44:27 am »

It's not just watching the royals, it's a tradition. Similar to a whole population deciding to carve one of these disgusting turkeys on a fixed date every year.

<.....bbbblinks> What's wrong with turkey, man?
That they're not very tasty?

You seriously don't like turkey? I guess there's no accounting for taste. It's easily my favourite meat.

And it's not just an American thing. In Britain it's traditional to eat a turkey on Christmas day. We don't have any equivalent of thanksgiving though.
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Re: 4 dead 16 wounded at attack on Dutch queensday.
« Reply #33 on: May 03, 2009, 01:53:48 pm »

I ran a Subway for a while


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Re: 4 dead 16 wounded at attack on Dutch queensday.
« Reply #34 on: May 03, 2009, 02:41:07 pm »
You seriously don't like turkey? I guess there's no accounting for taste. It's easily my favourite meat.

And it's not just an American thing. In Britain it's traditional to eat a turkey on Christmas day. We don't have any equivalent of thanksgiving though.
Well I see turkey as a cheap filler. It's probably the most tasteless and cheapest meat available. It's probably nice for sandwiches with bacon, molten cheese and some sauce to give it flavor. Indeed just like ham or bologna. Not really something to base a dinner on. Let alone serving a whole huge bird. I prefer quality over quantity.

In the Netherlands we had turkey dinners for christmas for a while too. Luckily it was a passing fad. We do seem to be stuck with the Coca Cola version of Sinterklaas though.

Anyway, the point was showing that besides people watching celebrities (or coming out to see the queen on her birthday) there are more silly traditions like baking a whole turkey on specific dates.

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Re: 4 dead 16 wounded at attack on Dutch queensday.
« Reply #35 on: May 03, 2009, 05:48:23 pm »
You seriously don't like turkey? I guess there's no accounting for taste. It's easily my favourite meat.

And it's not just an American thing. In Britain it's traditional to eat a turkey on Christmas day. We don't have any equivalent of thanksgiving though.
Well I see turkey as a cheap filler. It's probably the most tasteless and cheapest meat available. It's probably nice for sandwiches with bacon, molten cheese and some sauce to give it flavor. Indeed just like ham or bologna. Not really something to base a dinner on. Let alone serving a whole huge bird. I prefer quality over quantity.

In the Netherlands we had turkey dinners for christmas for a while too. Luckily it was a passing fad. We do seem to be stuck with the Coca Cola version of Sinterklaas though.

Anyway, the point was showing that besides people watching celebrities (or coming out to see the queen on her birthday) there are more silly traditions like baking a whole turkey on specific dates.



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Re: 4 dead 16 wounded at attack on Dutch queensday.
« Reply #36 on: May 03, 2009, 05:50:36 pm »

I was just thinking that Dutch turkeys must be different.  Maybe the word is pointing to something else over there? 

Ironically, they wander around my yard in groups of 25, and sometimes I have to go shoo them away so the kids can use the yard.

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Re: 4 dead 16 wounded at attack on Dutch queensday.
« Reply #37 on: May 03, 2009, 10:41:34 pm »

It's funny, I'm not a huge fan of turkey either...


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Re: 4 dead 16 wounded at attack on Dutch queensday.
« Reply #38 on: May 05, 2009, 05:55:02 am »
Pinballass is on my ignore list for some time, but regretfully I still see his postings....

Anyway, this wasn't meant as a political or turkey thread.

Queen's day is very hard to explain to foreigners.

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Re: 4 dead 16 wounded at attack on Dutch queensday.
« Reply #39 on: May 05, 2009, 10:24:30 am »
Pinballass is on my ignore list for some time, but regretfully I still see his postings....

Anyway, this wasn't meant as a political or turkey thread.

Queen's day is very hard to explain to foreigners.
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