Which console is in your mame cab?

[Shieldwolf]

In addition to your computer what console do you have in your mame cab?

also for those who use a dreamcast what are some good games to put in your cab?

[Bluntman]

I'm in the process of building my cab, but I won't be including any consoles in it, not because I'm against the idea, but simply because I have a 132cm rear projection tv to play my Gamecube on *waggles eyebrows*

I DO whowever plan on "future proofing" myself just incase I find a need to play my consoles on the cab... I'm going to be mounting a small plate on the ouside of the cab (probably hidden under the CP, or 'round the back) that provides me with inputs for the spare AV channel on the tv I'm using as the display... this way I can just "jack in" with any console (or other av output device... vcr, dvd etc) of my choosing, sure I'll have to use the original gamepads for the gamecube (or whatever) but that's how THOSE games were ment to be played, just like arcade games were meant to be played on arcade controls

[SNAAAKE]

i got everything in there..dreamcast,ps2 and gamecube !
The ultimate gamestation I would say..will be submiting the new cabinet very soon !

[paigeoliver]

No consoles in my cabinets. I believe the console died as a viable platform in the mid 90s.

Sure they still make consoles, but they are just a poor cousin to the PC when it comes to gaming now. I kind of laugh at people who own consoles (sorry, I do).

My impressions of a console are usually something like this.


Friend shows me Random X-BOX racing game, and I am like wow, it is just like a PC Racing game, except it has long ass load times every time you switch a screen, and it costs twice as much.

Or friend shows me random Playstation 2 first person shooter on console, and I am like "Wow, it is like a computer game, except lower resolution, and with crappier controls".

The only thing a console seems to offer are some titles that are not available on PC. Big freaking deal, there are always more games out there than anyone can play anyway.

[jakejake28]

i have a dc hooked up in my cab, i love it. some great games that are arcade freindly are out for dc.
soul calibur
virtua fighter 3
dead or alive 2
ikaruga
guilty gear x
cannon spike
crazy taxi 1+2
house of the dead
gauntlet legends
nfl blitz
nba hoopz
dynamite cop
virtua striker
marvel vs. capcom 2

[Dave_K.]

No consoles in my cabinets. I believe the console died as a viable platform in the mid 90s.

Sure they still make consoles, but they are just a poor cousin to the PC when it comes to gaming now. I kind of laugh at people who own consoles (sorry, I do).

My impressions of a console are usually something like this.


Friend shows me Random X-BOX racing game, and I am like wow, it is just like a PC Racing game, except it has long ass load times every time you switch a screen, and it costs twice as much.

Or friend shows me random Playstation 2 first person shooter on console, and I am like "Wow, it is like a computer game, except lower resolution, and with crappier controls".

The only thing a console seems to offer are some titles that are not available on PC. Big freaking deal, there are always more games out there than anyone can play anyway.

I respect your opinion, but the game (types) you just mentioned aren't typically played inside a mame like cab.  So you fall short of making any real point.

You also seem to come to the grim realization that there are a greater selection of console games than pc games (which COULD be played in a cab).  Why didn't you mention all the lightgun games?  Why didn't you mention all the fighters or platformers which are not available on the PC (or that pc owners only wish will someday get emulated)?  

Sure a PC is more powerfull, and you can laugh at the comparison to consoles...but it all comes down to the games and not the hardware platform.

[spectre]

consoles are junk...back when the old nes and then super nes came with genesis trailing behind, those were the great days to be a console owner... then everyone found the magic of how pc's are so much better... i used to own at least 30 consoles...today that number has dropped to zero...

[Dave_K.]

consoles are junk...back when the old nes and then super nes came with genesis trailing behind, those were the great days to be a console owner... then everyone found the magic of how pc's are so much better... i used to own at least 30 consoles...today that number has dropped to zero...

Spectre, glad to see you found the "magic" in PCs. Only problem is this is not a discussion of "whats better PCs or consoles".  That would be a kinda lame topic with similarly lame responses.  I think the original poster wanted to know who is also using a console in their mame cab, and what games they are are playing.

[spectre]

I know this but don't call me out on a "bad" post when you brought nothing to the original topic either, don't be a hypocrite...and btw- it was related to what paigeoliver said...so i think it was a relevant comment to support what he said to some degree...instead of worrying about other people cluttering up a board with posts that don't relate to the topic...check how relevant your own post is first...

[Molloy]

No consoles in my cabinets. I believe the console died as a viable platform in the mid 90s.

Sure they still make consoles, but they are just a poor cousin to the PC when it comes to gaming now. I kind of laugh at people who own consoles (sorry, I do).

My impressions of a console are usually something like this.


Friend shows me Random X-BOX racing game, and I am like wow, it is just like a PC Racing game, except it has long ass load times every time you switch a screen, and it costs twice as much.

Or friend shows me random Playstation 2 first person shooter on console, and I am like "Wow, it is like a computer game, except lower resolution, and with crappier controls".

The only thing a console seems to offer are some titles that are not available on PC. Big freaking deal, there are always more games out there than anyone can play anyway.

I respect your opinion, but the game (types) you just mentioned aren't typically played inside a mame like cab.  So you fall short of making any real point.

You also seem to come to the grim realization that there are a greater selection of console games than pc games (which COULD be played in a cab).  Why didn't you mention all the lightgun games?  Why didn't you mention all the fighters or platformers which are not available on the PC (or that pc owners only wish will someday get emulated)?  

Sure a PC is more powerfull, and you can laugh at the comparison to consoles...but it all comes down to the games and not the hardware platform.

Pretty weak point alright. FPS are bad on a pad granted but Metropolis Street Racer and Burnout 2 are far better than any racers on the PC at the moment.

The problem with the PC as a format is there aren't any good arcade games.

[Pyronious]

I have both a PC and a Dreamcast in my cab.

If you're seriously excited about arcade games like I am, then a console makes perfect sense.  I don't think you can play any of these great games on the PC, either under emulation or otherwise:

Capcom vs. SNK 2
Marvel vs. Capcom 2
Virtua Fighter 4 / Evolution
Power Stone 1 / 2
Virtua Tennis 1 / 2
Soul Calibur 1 / 2
House of the Dead 2 / 3
Time Crisis 1 / 2
Ikaruga
Zero Gunner 2
Ridge Racer series
Daytona
Gran Turismo 3 (OK not an arcade game but show me a better PC racer)

As far as I'm concerned, PC's are for RPG's, Realtime Strategy, and First Person Shooters.

P.

[spectre]

sega gt is on pc... basically gran turismo by sega for dreamcast, lol... it wasn't that bad, but the real gt beats it, lol

[Generic Eric]

I think the only other game that comes close to the depth of grand turismo is that Ferrari game, the one that had the 3 screens inside the driving cockpit.  It was ported to the dreamcast I know.  Its like Grand turismo in that you have to get licsences.  I played it once at the arcade in the mall.  It was quite the expierience. It also cost at least a dollar to play(I think it was more.)   Its more than a game though, its like the Ferrari simulator.  I think thats there slogan too.

[shmokes]

That's crazy talk paigeoliver.  How's this for a significant difference between a console and a PC:

If you want to play Splinter Cell on a console you can pick up a Gamecube for $150.  If you want to play Splinter Cell on a PC with decent effects and framerate you can pick up a PC for $1500.  That's pretty relevant.

And there's a HUGE list of games that don't lend themselves to PC's:  Marios, Zeldas, Ratchet and Clank, Any game that can be played by two or more people in the same house, i.e., not over the internet, such as fighting games and split-screen racers, bomberman, mario party.  

Consoles have always had PC-like architectures including the NES and SNES.  But you can sqeeze a ton of life out of them compared with PC's because they are a closed box.  PC games have to run on an infinite number of different combinations of hardware so there is an element of developing to some lowest common denominator.  The fact that consoles are incorporating more and more hardware/features that have in the past set PC's apart from consoles such as keyboard/mouse support, hard drives, network adapters, system clock etc. only make PC's more irrelevant as a gaming platform, not the other way around.  This is precisely because of the fact that a gaming PC costs at least ten times as much as a gaming console.  As soon as the PC offers no experience that can't be had on a relatively dirt-cheap console it will fade away as a gaming platform.  

We've all seen the power of consoles with regards to making another videogame platform irrelevant.  Where do you think all the arcades went?  

This isn't something that's going to happen, it's happening.  Hell, even Microsoft is fixing to abandon the PC for console gaming.

[spectre]

the price tag is different but functionality is much greater for the dollar on the pc...
the pc is not bought only for splinter cell... where as the console is only purchased for the select few games they want to play... there might be a greater selection, but quality and price isn't always matched...what about modding and such as well, and online play, and fps...
plus there is always emulation! i can't justify paying a super price by the time all the hook ups controllers and accesories are purchased just for a couple "must have" console games.
you also brought up the idea of consoles mimicing pcs with keyboards and such... theres a reason for that...PC'S ARE BETTER! lowest common denominator you say? so i'm paying my hard earned money for what? less functionality in a closed box that cannot support great online gmaes or modifications? i can't code my own games on the system without paying massive dev fees? so far i see only drawbacks... consoles aren't dirt cheap either... thats the illusion...think of how much money you have spent over the years on consoles...i know i've bought my fair share, LOL...wasted money...consoles are good for kids who don't know anything about computers or for paranoid parents...
consoles will not make computers irrelevant since all they are is a dumbed down computer, lol... the reason they are cheap is because of the "dumbed down" factor. name me a console game that can not be played using a computer. NONE know why? because a console is a very crappy computer with minimal functionality! NEWS FLASH! console games are where the money is tho since parents buy for kids and parents have money... a lot of parents in this generation don't know about computers or are afraid of their kid being molested online somehow and decide to go for a console... or a kid asks for a console since a friend has one or because the games on average are geared more towards children...it's easier for a child than a pc...plain and simple
console=stripped down pc
its cheaper, but at the cost of massive functionality...

[jakejake28]

i don't really care about how powerful a pc is, i want to know if the games i wanna play are on the darn thing. i agree with spectre in one regard, consoles are dumbed down pc's. and that cannot be disputed. but, the pc has a few things superior to a console: online play, fps, strategy games, mods, constant updates, hard drives, OS'es, etc.
but that is really changing. look at the xbox. i use xbox live, and love playing it. it has some great online games, too. Capcom vs. SNK 2, the Sega Sports series, MechAssault, Unreal Tournament. Splinter Cell and MechAssault have online updates and new levels to download. as for fps, i like Halo a helluva lot. Counterstrike is coming for xbox, w/ enhanced graphix, as is Half-Life 2, and Halo 2 will bring online gameplay as well. Xbox has a harddrive, untapped potential in it.

In terms of power, the pc will never be beaten. tho the idea that consoles are for kids is just naive. personally, i would rather be playing a quality game than a graphic intense game, and currently a pc doesn't offer so many as a console.

i do not hate playing pc games, as a matter of fact i love them, i just also love my consoles.

oh, for the answer to this thread, my post is near de top

[Dave_K.]

I know this but don't call me out on a "bad" post when you brought nothing to the original topic either, don't be a hypocrite...and btw- it was related to what paigeoliver said...so i think it was a relevant comment to support what he said to some degree...instead of worrying about other people cluttering up a board with posts that don't relate to the topic...check how relevant your own post is first...

Hmmm, so I point out that there are other generas of console games which are relevant to playing in a cabinet (lightgun games, fighters and platformers) which are not available on PCs (which was related to the original thread), and you continue to drive some childish discussion of how you think PCs are better than consoles?  Yeah, I see who's posts are relevant.  LOL.

I'd add Confidential Mission and Project Justice to jakejake28 and Pyronious Dreamcast list of games played in cab.

[shmokes]

Spectre, you make me laugh.  I am not making a fanboy "PC's Suck!" argument.  I love my PC, but it cost me over $3,000 (including monitors).  It can do a ton of things that can't be accomplished on a console.  But the average person has no interest in video editing and Photoshop.  

Lowest common denominator means, yes you can go out and buy a Radeon 9800, but there aren't any games that take advantage of its capabilities because there are relatively few people who have them.  Developers dumb down their games knowing that most PC owners don't (can't afford to) keep up on the bleeding edge of technology.  So even though your PC is far more powerful than the "dumbed down" console, you wouldn't know it for the games.
To illustrate what I'm talking about regarding the benefits of a closed box take a look at the system requirements for Splinter Cell:

CPU: 1 Ghz
RAM: 256 MB
Video:  32 MB Card

This is only for a good playable experience, not even with all the effects turned on.  An XBox plays it perfectly with a Pentium III 700 Mhz processor and 64 MB of total shared RAM for both system and video.  This is because the developers know that EVERY person who buys the game will have EXACTLY the same hardware.  They can program the game specifically for one video card, one processor, one memory and sound architecture.  They can take full advantage of every piece of hardware without having to play to a lowest common denominator.

To address many of your points here are a few facts:

- All three consoles are currently able to play online.

- FPS's: Metroid Prime, Halo, Medal of Honor, Goldeneye, Timesplitters -- all started on or exclusive to consoles.  All of the great PC FPS's are ported over to the consoles and we've already established the keyboard/mouse support of consoles.

The bit about parents being afraid of computers so they get consoles instead makes no sense on two fronts:  1 - Well over half the households in the United States have PC's; a far greater number than that of households with consoles.  2 - Over fifty percent of Playstation and Xbox owners/players are over 18 and the average age of a console game player is climbing by the year.

I never said that PC's would become irrelevant...just that they will be/are becoming displaced as a gaming platform by consoles.  The advantages they offer are shrinking.  In the same way the PC will be displaced as your central music hub as MP3 and hard drive functionalities are added to Home Theater equipment.

I apologize for the length of this -- I tend to go on about things.  I'll end it on one note.  You have already conceded to the fact that consoles will displace PC's as a gaming platform.  You said:

Console games are where the money is

That about sums it up, my friend.  You are beginning to understand.