Oh, they're selling those again. For months last year they tried to no avail to seel those. Kept lowering the prices, down to 29.99 I think and no bids. Because they don't know if they work. I emailed them with detailed information on how to test them using a computer and soft15, but they had no ---smurfing--- clue. If it's close enough to go check it out, I suggest you do so.