Heroes Finale

[FrizzleFried]

Well...not really finale,  but it was the final episode of the year and the end of the "chapter".  What are your thoughts?

I found the episode to be quite asstastic frankly.  I am borderline VERY disappointed...straddling just disappointed.  If I had to give it a number it would have been a 4/10.  They are really ---smurfing--- the storyline up IMHO...

There are a few things that have just bugged the ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- out of me for the last half season...

SUPER SPEED GIRL...can someone explain to me how the super speed girl can make others super speed simply by holding on to them?   Wouldn't you think it would be a bit of a DRAG holding on to someone twice her size while trying to run at super speed?

ALI LARTER - I really hated they brought this chick back as a "new hero"?!  Come on... stupid...really really stupid...almost like the writers were like "---steaming pile of meadow muffin---...her character sucks but she's really liked by the audience...lets re-write her in as a different hero...yes...a long lost twin".  GIVE ME A BREAK.

WTF is up with giving Ando abilities...and what ability did they give him?  The ability to amplify other peoples abilities?  For Christ sake... I afraid to say it,  but it looks like Hero's jumped the shark with this latest episode...too bad too.

[AtomSmasher]

I thought the whole season was really bad and the finale was just as bad as the rest of the season.

[FrizzleFried]

I thought the whole season was really bad and the finale was just as bad as the rest of the season.

See...I thought LAST SEASON was pretty bad...I thought this season started out much better and I was generally OK with it throughout the season until this lump of ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- hit the airwaves on Monday.

[JeepMonkey]

I agree with the Ali Larter comment.  She was a very good character, but she died.  The reinvent her as the twin sucks.

I think the whole writers strike really messed up the flow of the show.  Volume Two was cut short, so Volume Three had to finish off Volume Two and they have to pack Volume Four into what I think will be to few episodes.

It does seem that they have finally set the stage for the characters to move into the future they showed us episodes ago.

Does anyone want to make any predictions on which powers Peter will get and how quick?

[FrizzleFried]

I agree with the Ali Larter comment.  She was a very good character, but she died.  The reinvent her as the twin sucks.

I think the whole writers strike really messed up the flow of the show.  Volume Two was cut short, so Volume Three had to finish off Volume Two and they have to pack Volume Four into what I think will be to few episodes.

It does seem that they have finally set the stage for the characters to move into the future they showed us episodes ago.

Does anyone want to make any predictions on which powers Peter will get and how quick?

Uh,  he flew.  Did you miss that part?   Yet another stupid ass scene.  He takes the drug...and INSTANTLY he can fly...how...convenient.

[JeepMonkey]

I did see that.  I am curious which powers he will get in addition to flying.  I could easily see that he would go to Clair and say "Hey, I need to copy your power again".

Sylar is way ahead of Peter now.

And how did Peter know he would get his old ability back?  And why the hell couldn't Nathan fly himself out of the fire?  This thinkgs bothered me.

So will Mohinder be back to normal with no powers or will he get powers since he apparently took some of the formula?

[FrizzleFried]

I did see that.  I am curious which powers he will get in addition to flying.  I could easily see that he would go to Clair and say "Hey, I need to copy your power again".

Sylar is way ahead of Peter now.

And how did Peter know he would get his old ability back?  And why the hell couldn't Nathan fly himself out of the fire?  This thinkgs bothered me.

So will Mohinder be back to normal with no powers or will he get powers since he apparently took some of the formula?

But Peter's original ability was absorbing other abilities...not flying.  I dunno...when it was done I looked to my wife and said "Now that one sucked".  She didn't agree...but me wife actually enjoyed Will Smith's Wild Wild West...so you can see she's a bit nutso when it comes to movies/shows.

[JeepMonkey]

I am making the assumption that Peter Took the formula, that he now has his original power of absorbing other's powers, then touched Nathan, absorbed the ability to fly, then flew off.

[FrizzleFried]

I am making the assumption that Peter Took the formula, that he now has his original power of absorbing other's powers, then touched Nathan, absorbed the ability to fly, then flew off.

Ah...good assumption...I didn't think about that.  Surely WAY too convenient.  And I really thought the whole idea of an AMPLIFIED speed girl going back in time especially pulling Anso along with her was utterly absurd even for a "suspension of reality" show.

[hypernova]

I am making the assumption that Peter Took the formula, that he now has his original power of absorbing other's powers, then touched Nathan, absorbed the ability to fly, then flew off.

Most likely.  Arthur stole his powers, which I took as disabling the genes in Peter's body, much like when the solar eclipse hit and disabled everyone's.  The serum just reactivated his genes or whatever.  He never had to touch anyone, just be in their proximity.

They didn't have to kill of Larter's character.  I think perhaps her initial character was just a bit boring after awhile.  And they were triplets.  So there's supposed to be another one.

Mohinder should keep his powers.  The serum kind of washed away his lesions, so it was like he took it.  Unless it's only a physical temporary thing.

The whole "I touch you and you can do the same thing I can" thing is a rather gaping plot hole.  They really should at least attempt to explain that one.

I'm confused as to how Nathan goes from "everyone should have powers" to "let's round up and detain everyone with powers."

WTF is up with giving Ando abilities...and what ability did they give him?  The ability to amplify other peoples abilities?  For Christ sake... I afraid to say it,  but it looks like Hero's jumped the shark with this latest episode...too bad too.

It's called creativity.  Why does every ability have to be independent of others?

[orion]

I am making the assumption that Peter Took the formula, that he now has his original power of absorbing other's powers, then touched Nathan, absorbed the ability to fly, then flew off.

Yep and all he has to do to regain all of his powers is to simply come into contact with Sylar.... you know they are going to build that up.

[Ginsu Victim]

I am making the assumption that Peter Took the formula, that he now has his original power of absorbing other's powers, then touched Nathan, absorbed the ability to fly, then flew off.

Yep and all he has to do to regain all of his powers is to simply come into contact with Sylar.... you know they are going to build that up.

So what happens if, after that, he comes into contact with Ando?

[AtomSmasher]

I am making the assumption that Peter Took the formula, that he now has his original power of absorbing other's powers, then touched Nathan, absorbed the ability to fly, then flew off.

Yep and all he has to do to regain all of his powers is to simply come into contact with Sylar.... you know they are going to build that up.

So what happens if, after that, he comes into contact with Ando?

The writers don't think that far ahead (and don't remember very far back either, but that's another discussion).

[hyiu]

I think this season started off pretty good... but the end is a let down...

that soldier who got super power.... he's suppose to be a soldier who went thru war and stuffs and not afraid... but got snapped like a toothpick by that guy.... why bother ??
if he's so strong, should his neck be harder to snap ??
also, if he's not afraid, should that guy not have super strength over him ??

also, the woman who got the adrealine shot by Sylar... why does she have to hide in basement so that everything collapse on her ?? why can't everyone stay inside, and she goes out and explode herself and let the fire spread ?? its not like she's an atomic bomb or something...

and running back in time to bring Hire back... that's a little too much....

all in all, I think the finale is a let down...

[shardian]

For the most part, I enjoyed the finale more than the last 8 episodes - which doesn't mean much. This show has become one huge train wreck. Last weeks episode was very good up until Arthur showed up in the past. I personally wish NBC would cancel the show. I really don't think it will get better.

The good news is that Chuck has caught Heroes in the ratings. 

[Todd H]

For the most part, I enjoyed the finale more than the last 8 episodes - which doesn't mean much. This show has become one huge train wreck. Last weeks episode was very good up until Arthur showed up in the past. I personally wish NBC would cancel the show. I really don't think it will get better.

The good news is that Chuck has caught Heroes in the ratings. 

Yep, it used to be I watched Chuck as a time killer until Heroes came on. Now Chuck has surpassed Heroes in every way and is now my favorite network show.

[FrizzleFried]

I've never seen Chuck...hard to pick up?

[Todd H]

I've never seen Chuck...hard to pick up?

Nahhh. Pretty easy. Read the wikipedia plot synopsis and you should be good to go.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_(TV_series)

[shardian]

I've never seen Chuck...hard to pick up?

They just started Winter Break. You can catch up via HULU or NBC.com

The show is hilarious, and references the 80's fairly often. This season they've had episodes featuring Missile Command, and a DeLorean.

[RayB]

So did they tie it in to Lost or not?

[shardian]

So did they tie it in to Lost or not?

Tie what into Lost?

Since you mentioned it though, Chuck has had several nods to Lost hidden in the show. I've seen 2 Oceanic airlines bits.

[Ginsu Victim]

Last weeks episode was very good up until Arthur showed up in the past.

Cheap crap like that angers me when watching the show. How many times must they build something up only to make it meaningless IMMEDIATELY?!?

I'm not even going to start on how much they mess up the time travel stuff. The past almost never affects the future on that show.

[markrvp]

I just scrolled to the bottom of the thread, but let me say that this show has jumped the shark.  The writers have no clue what they're doing.  The finale was horrible.  All the new characters they've added are horrible.  The taking away of powers was horrible.  Now saying that the kids of the original people with powers were injected to get their powers is horrible.

Horrible, horrible, horrible.

[SavannahLion]

Arthur stole his powers, which I took as disabling the genes in Peter's body, much like when the solar eclipse hit and disabled everyone's.

I missed the solar eclipse episode. How the hell did they explain that one away? They get their power from a yellow sun? They just got done explaining their powers are sourced from a gland inside their brain. Hence why Sylar is always cutting their noggins open to steal their powers.

The serum just reactivated his genes or whatever.  He never had to touch anyone, just be in their proximity.

See above.

Mohinder should keep his powers.  The serum kind of washed away his lesions, so it was like he took it.  Unless it's only a physical temporary thing.

From the looks of it, it's only temporary.. or the lesions are no longer part of the problem?

that soldier who got super power.... he's suppose to be a soldier who went thru war and stuffs and not afraid... but got snapped like a toothpick by that guy.... why bother ??
if he's so strong, should his neck be harder to snap ??
also, if he's not afraid, should that guy not have super strength over him ??

That was just downright stupid. The only thing I can think of is that someone screwed up and gave a fresh out of boot camp private super powers instead of an experienced war grognard. If he's standing there with a lame line with his back to an unsecured door, he deserved to have his neck snapped. Powers or no.

and running back in time to bring Hire back... that's a little too much....

I got the impression the writers wrote themselves into a corner on that one. They put Hiro in the past with no obvious way to get back. They really should have left his ass there for a few more episodes. Might have made some interesting dialogue with his father. It was pretty well established that a lot is supposed to hinge around Hiro.

[RayB]

So did they tie it in to Lost or not?

Tie what into Lost?

Since you mentioned it though, Chuck has had several nods to Lost hidden in the show. I've seen 2 Oceanic airlines bits.

Rumors keep popping up that Heroes and Lost are in the same "universe" (or "reality"--call it what you want) and that they would drop a hint soon that ties the two.

[shardian]

They throw all logic and previous history out the window on this show. I liked the whole big deal about saving/destroying the formula on the finale. Newsflash you dumb shits: The CATALYST is GONE. It doesn't matter.

Another thing that bothered me was Arthur's death. It has been shown over and over and over on the show that the healer's can come back to life well after death. Just in a previous episode Sylar AND Claire died while without powers. After everyone else got their powers back, they both came back to life.

So when Arthur was shot, I said to myself "No big deal - as soon as the haitian leaves he will pop right back up." Nope, this time the writers deemed that he would stay dead. How Stupid do they think the viewers are? Or worse, how ---smurfing--- stupid are the writers?

[Malenko]

sooooo, the obviously already have rogue on the show absorbing powers, whens Wolverine gonna show up? I might start watching then.


Ive only seen bits and pieces of the show,so I dont like or hate it, it just doesnt pull me in (the previews of the fireproof cheerleader didnt help) When is chapter 4:We are still just generic xmen going to start?

[shardian]

Sorry, but Rogue's power makes too much sense to be included in this show. She absorbs the person's energy. If they have powers, she only gets the power until the energy dissipates.

There are 3 power suckers on Heroes, and they all keep powers forever.

[myntik1]

I'm a nerd and I stopped following it 2 years ago but the blatant ripoffs of the x-men is unreal

sorry I don't remember the names of all of the characters

besides the ex-cop/ prof x thing

you could make a case that claire is wolverine since she is able to heal from any wound

the younger brother is mimic from the early issues of the x-men

Hiro is Illyana Rasputin.  She had the ability to travel through space and time, often you would get to the right spot but not the right year

The super strong chick has the split personality of Aurora from Alpha Flight

the young kid who communicates with electronics is similar to Forge

[Ginsu Victim]

I'm a nerd and I stopped following it 2 years ago

It's obvious by some of the people you're mentioning that you definitely haven't kept up

[Malenko]

Sorry, but Rogue's power makes too much sense to be included in this show. She absorbs the person's energy. If they have powers, she only gets the power until the energy dissipates.

There are 3 power suckers on Heroes, and they all keep powers forever.

ok, I gotta ask, do they TAKE the power or copy them? and what happens if they touch each other? anything happen if they touch normal people? I feel sorry for rogue, she can only scrump in the savage land. I did always laugh when they put gambit and her in a situation where they dont have their powers..... wouldnt they have at it given the chance? heh

[Twinpanther]

It's called creativity.  Why does every ability have to be independent of others?

Hmm, "Wonder Twin powers, activate!" comes to mind. 

Creative, nah.

[shardian]

ok, I gotta ask, do they TAKE the power or copy them?

One 'copies' powers by being in the vicinity of others with powers.

Another 'cuts' the power out of their head. Although they keep changing the story of how/what he is doing to get the powers. Basically though, he has to 'understand' their power and then he has it. Then they ---fouled up beyond all recognition--- it up further one episode by saying he could 'nice' the power out of them without killing them. Quality writing there: Be super extra nice to a person and you get their power.

The last guy permanently steals powers by touch.