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Player 3 and 4 joysticks: common orientation?
MTPPC:
--- Quote from: u_rebelscum on December 11, 2008, 01:19:30 pm ---
Actually, it's technically possible to map the diagonals in mame. More steps to set up, and in the past (haven't tried recently) there sometimes was a one frame hiccup going to diagonals. :-\ Anyway...
Example: player far left has stick angled 45 degrees clockwise. To "unrotate", there are three cases when mame should send the game "Up": jUp + jLeft (as straight up), jLeft (as up+left), and JUp (as up+right). So in mame's up, map:
jUp jLeft OR jLeft NOT jUp NOT jDown OR jUp NOT jLeft NOT jRight.
To physically do this, enter mame's Input menu, enter, move stick straight up, wait until mame registers, enter, diagonal up left, quickly center, quickly double tap diagonal up right, quickly double tap diagonal down left, wait, enter, diagonal up right, double up left, double down right. (Or you could hand edit the cfg file, if you know how) The other directions need to mapped similarly, of course:
mame down: jDown jRight OR jRight NOT jUp NOT jDown OR jDown NOT jLeft NOT jRight
mame left: jDown jLeft OR jDown NOT jLeft NOT jRight OR jLeft NOT jUp NOT jDown
mame right: jUp jRight OR jUp NOT jLeft NOT jRight OR jRight NOT jUp NOT jDown
Sorry for going techie again. ;D
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I am sorry to dig this up from a 4 year burial, but I need to ask if anyone knows if this technique can be used to remap 8-way joysticks for use in q-bert. I'd love to be able to play q-bert and when I mapped the diagonals, it worked like crap. Does anyone do this to get q-bert playable? Where can you manually set this in the game specific ini in mame? Sorry for being a noob.
paigeoliver:
Q*Bert is only going to work right with a 4-way stick installed at a 45 degree angle.
And this webpage right here is single handed responsible for people angling player 3 and 4.
http://www.wickedretarded.com/~crapmame/30.html
The guy who wrote the website mistakenly thought side sticks were supposed to get angled, wrote that, and now hundreds of people have built cabinets that are hard to control. I don't really care if you are some exception ninja who can play with your angled stick, most people can't and that is why only a tiny handful of real arcade games angled the sticks (and almost all of those bombed hard)
yotsuya:
--- Quote from: paigeoliver on September 06, 2012, 10:50:02 pm ---Q*Bert is only going to work right with a 4-way stick installed at a 45 degree angle.
And this webpage right here is single handed responsible for people angling player 3 and 4.
http://www.wickedretarded.com/~crapmame/30.html
The guy who wrote the website mistakenly thought side sticks were supposed to get angled, wrote that, and now hundreds of people have built cabinets that are hard to control. I don't really care if you are some exception ninja who can play with your angled stick, most people can't and that is why only a tiny handful of real arcade games angled the sticks (and almost all of those bombed hard)
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Looking at that photo, Paige, I see that the problem is that the BUTTONS should be angled. If they were (like Gauntlet is), all would have been fine.
Unstupid:
Unstupids rule regarding 4 player panels: "Don't build a 4 player panel!"
This rule is not for anyone specific, rather it is for anyone reading these boards:
Here is why you don't build a 4 player panel:
1. We all know you don't have 3 friends!
2. You will probably not find 4 people that all want to play Simpsons, X-Men, Gauntlet or NBA Jam at the same time.
3. If you do find 4 people that all want to play Simpsons at the same time they probably won't be at your house, Why not? See #1!
:D
Dawgz Rule:
My wife asked me why I was going to build a 4-player cab and I said it was for when "people come over". She promptly replied "What people?" and I built a 2-player instead.
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