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Actors can surprise you.....
« on: September 22, 2008, 02:29:45 am »
Um, unless these comments are his version of something Monty Python-ish...but I don't think so:

Patrick Stewart - Discussing his love for Beavis & Butthead: Oh, yes, my passion for them remains the same... I think it's one of the most original and brilliant pieces of television that we've seen in recent years. The dialogue is delightful. I simply sit and giggle and laugh all the time.

The three things that I am most proud of doing in my life is firstly, "Extras" (2005); secondly, my appearance on "The Simpsons" (1989) and thirdly, appearing on "Sesame Street" (1969).

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Re: Actors can surprise you.....
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2008, 08:18:07 am »
Well, his appearance on Extras IS hilarious.

Matter of fact, it's what I instantly think of now whenever I see him.


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Re: Actors can surprise you.....
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2008, 09:22:15 am »

It's called being an ancient white guy trying his damnedest to relate to "the kids". 

Epic fail.

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Re: Actors can surprise you.....
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2008, 09:52:19 am »

It's called being an ancient white guy trying his damnedest to relate to "the kids". 

Epic fail.

Are you kidding?  That was hilarious.   :laugh2:
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Re: Actors can surprise you.....
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2008, 10:02:37 am »

It's called being an ancient white guy trying his damnedest to relate to "the kids". 

Epic fail.

Are you kidding?  That was hilarious.   :laugh2:

He's referring to the Beavis and Butthead comment.

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Re: Actors can surprise you.....
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2008, 11:01:11 am »

It's called being an ancient white guy trying his damnedest to relate to "the kids". 

Epic fail.

Are you kidding?  That was hilarious.   :laugh2:

He's referring to the Beavis and Butthead comment.
Is beavis and butthead still popular with the kids?  I didn't realize the re-runs had taken off with the current generation.

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Re: Actors can surprise you.....
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2008, 11:02:52 am »
I can't even watch it now. I really doubt many people are fans at this point. (Especially the younger generation)

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Re: Actors can surprise you.....
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2008, 06:36:37 pm »
Considering his deep knowledge of Shakespeare, I really don't find it all that surprising. Aside from the language barrier, most of Shakespeare's comedies are pretty damn low-brow as far as the humor goes.
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Re: Actors can surprise you.....
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2008, 11:34:08 pm »
I can't even watch it now. I really doubt many people are fans at this point. (Especially the younger generation)

Half the enjoyment of watching the shows was watching B&B talk smack while watching utterly crappy videos. Since the networks (or whomever) stripped the videos, the shows aren't nearly as humorous.  :(

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Re: Actors can surprise you.....
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2008, 11:42:27 pm »
I do believe the DVDs have the videos, and you're right, that part was always the best.

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Re: Actors can surprise you.....
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2008, 11:52:51 pm »
Well, his appearance on Extras IS hilarious.

Matter of fact, it's what I instantly think of now whenever I see him.




hehe. That reminded me of his appearance on SNL, where he played an erotic cake shop operator, but the only erotic cakes he will make are that of a woman peeing behind a bush...  :laugh2:

Too bad I couldnt find a vid of it on the net...
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Re: Actors can surprise you.....
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2008, 09:39:38 am »
It's called being an ancient white guy trying his damnedest to relate to "the kids". 

Epic fail.

See, I think perhaps you are out of touch ...

Epic Fail is not knowing how to load MDF into a truck, then asking the likes of PBJ for suggestions.

Being the Captain of the Starship Enterprise, getting down with Gates McFadden and having people think you are cool outside of that. Not so much fail.

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Re: Actors can surprise you.....
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2008, 09:46:37 am »

A little touchy on the questioning of the guy's cred?  Perhaps you have a mancrush?

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Re: Actors can surprise you.....
« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2008, 09:52:03 am »

He was so fast to jump on that he even got the shot at me wrong.  I didn't ask how to load MDF.  I asked for suggestions on how to secure it because I was going on the highway. 


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Re: Actors can surprise you.....
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2008, 10:43:18 am »
Now I know that I wasn't far off the mark ... CWT and PBJ both agree on something.  :dizzy:

Sorry, I just thought it really ironic that the guy whose primary claim to fame, other than the MDF interogatory and the donut shop, is 30K posts here would suggest that he is qualified to call 'fail' on any captain of the Enterprise.

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Re: Actors can surprise you.....
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2008, 10:47:09 am »
Sorry, I just thought it really ironic that the guy whose primary claim to fame, other than the MDF interogatory and the donut shop, is 30K posts here would suggest that he is qualified to call 'fail' on any captain of the Enterprise.


Yep, mancrush. 

Not everyone cares about Star Trek as much as you.

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Re: Actors can surprise you.....
« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2008, 10:53:10 am »
Was just saying ... portraying the captain of the Enterprise is a wee bit cooler than gaining the tommy seal of approval.

If that means I have a crush on the man, then I shudder to think what that means for people who think the opposite.

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Re: Actors can surprise you.....
« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2008, 11:00:41 am »
If that means I have a crush on the man, then I shudder to think what that means for people who think the opposite.


Indifference doesn't mean anything by definition.  Only a person with such strong feelings would be unable to grasp that not everyone has them.  It's okay to admit it - and also to admit that being Captain of the Enterprise isn't a real life accomplishment.  It's no more real than when he was in Bambi II.   ;D

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Re: Actors can surprise you.....
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2008, 11:05:16 am »
Well, being captain of the Enterprise sure as hell is a real life accomplishment.  He made millions of real life dollars doing it.

Gates McFadden, though?  Meh . . . I mean, she's not disgusting, but she's nothing to brag about.  Were they a couple IRL?
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Re: Actors can surprise you.....
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2008, 11:10:25 am »
Well, being captain of the Enterprise sure as hell is a real life accomplishment.  He made millions of real life dollars doing it.


Getting the gig was an accomplishment... being Captain is just a role on a TV show like any other.  Too many people seem unable to separate the two. 

Mark Hamill isn't really a Jedi, either...  :laugh2:

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« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2008, 11:40:04 am »
He also played the role spectacularly well, and the series ran for seven highly successful seasons and spun off three major motion pictures.  Apply your logic to your own job.  Have you seriously accomplished nothing since the day you were hired? 

And even getting the gig wasn't just something he suddenly accomplished on the day he was hired.  It was an accumulation of a lifetime of acting accomplishments that culminated in his getting the gig.  Just like if he hadn't spent all those years portraying Captain Picard, he would never have got the role as Charles Xavier in X-Men.  Getting that gig wasn't something he started and finished in an interview, he was accomplishing the getting of that gig every time he made dangerous forays across the neutral zone. 
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Re: Actors can surprise you.....
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2008, 11:55:57 am »

He played the role exactly the same as he plays nearly every role.  The only difference between Picard and Xavier is the chair.   :laugh2: 

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Re: Actors can surprise you.....
« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2008, 12:10:29 pm »

He played the role exactly the same as he plays nearly every role.  The only difference between Picard and Xavier is the chair.   :laugh2: 
Yes, but he does an amazingly good job with that role, just look at his performance as Captain Ahab. 

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Re: Actors can surprise you.....
« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2008, 02:33:26 pm »
Chad's one of those "Capt Kirk" lovers. He just won't admit it, but I can read between the lines! I can!
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« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2008, 09:03:46 pm »
Kirk was a dashing dude. But have you seen young Leonard Nimoy? Oh my.


I think the BB remarks by Stewart were during the 90s. That script video is casually funny. "...I've seen it all."   Heh, yeah.
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Re: Actors can surprise you.....
« Reply #25 on: September 23, 2008, 10:36:22 pm »
Well, being captain of the Enterprise sure as hell is a real life accomplishment.  He made millions of real life dollars doing it.


Getting the gig was an accomplishment... being Captain is just a role on a TV show like any other.  Too many people seem unable to separate the two. 

Mark Hamill isn't really a Jedi, either...  :laugh2:

hamill isnt a jedi? DOH  So wait, did you stay in a Holiday Inn last night, or do you just play a net forum junkie in real life?   ;D

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« Reply #26 on: September 25, 2008, 08:16:27 pm »
Oh, and if he (Stewart) has such mental powers, he can just see THROUGH the clothes. Um, yeah.
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« Reply #27 on: September 26, 2008, 11:50:15 am »

He played the role exactly the same as he plays nearly every role.  The only difference between Picard and Xavier is the chair.   :laugh2: 

Whether that's true or not, it's not at all relevant to what we're talking about.  You're changing the goal posts from making accomplishments generally to having a great deal of range or versatility as an actor.  Going along with the red herring, though, don't necessarily judge an actor's capabilities on his typecast.  Christopher Lloyd is an amazingly good actor, but anyone who hasn't seen his pre-Back-to-the-Future work, or some of his independent work, would hardly know it.  Patrick Stewart was a successful theater actor prior to joining the crew of the Enterprise, including being a member of the Royal Shakespeare Company and acting on Broadway.

Regardless, though, it would be hard to argue that Keannu Reeves hasn't had any real-life accomplishments.  But it would be equally hard to argue that he's a good actor.  That example is only meant to illustrate the point, not to be a perfect analogy.  The obvious big difference is that Patrick Stewart actually is a good actor.  He's very good.
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