For the Metallica/Mortal Kombat Fans.....

[MK3FAN]

I thought this video would be kinda cool as I have never seen one quite like it. I am a big fan of MK and an even bigger fan of 'Tallica. So here is the best of both worlds....



Off topic, but I mentioned above that I am a big MetallicA fan, so here is a video of me playing "Enter Sandman" from the S&M Album.....

[Donkey_Kong]

Very nice drumming MK3Fan

I'm looking forward to Death Magnetic...two weeks to go! Recently been jamming to my other favorite band, Motley Crue and their new release Saints of Los Angeles. I also hear GNR might put something out...although is it still gnr...I dunno? All in all a good year for myself with these albums coming out. Thanks  for posting!

[MK3FAN]

Very nice drumming MK3Fan

I'm looking forward to Death Magnetic...two weeks to go! Recently been jamming to my other favorite band, Motley Crue and their new release Saints of Los Angeles. I also hear GNR might put something out...although is it still gnr...I dunno? All in all a good year for myself with these albums coming out. Thanks  for posting!

Sure! Thanks for your kind words.

[BUCKETHEAD]

I think Motley Crue already has the better album with (Saints of Los Angeles)

I heard the New Metallica song the other day, Not too impressive.   

There just isn't anything like the Old Metallica!

Long live KILL'EM ALL, LIGHTNING, PUPPETS and JUSTICE !   

[MK3FAN]

I think Motley Crue already has the better album with (Saints of Los Angeles)

I heard the New Metallica song the other day, Not too impressive.   

There just isn't anything like the Old Metallica!

Long live KILL'EM ALL, LIGHTNING, PUPPETS and JUSTICE !   

I agree in a sense, but I'll always respect them no matter what they do. Kirk was quoted as saying that Death Magnetic is a lot like ...Justice in that it's just as powerful in arrangement, and harmony. Plus, I can't base whether or not I am going to like an album purely on one song. By the way, you guys know that there is going to be an "Unforgiven III" on the new album?

[Hoopz]

I agree in a sense, but I'll always respect them no matter what they do. Kirk was quoted as saying that Death Magnetic is a lot like ...Justice in that it's just as powerful in arrangement, and harmony. Plus, I can't base whether or not I am going to like an album purely on one song. By the way, you guys know that there is going to be an "Unforgiven III" on the new album?

I hadn't heard that but I was pretty stoked about the new album anyway.  Now, I can hardly wait.   

[BUCKETHEAD]

you guys know that there is going to be an "Unforgiven III" on the new album?

Yes i have heard that, I am anxious to hear that.

As i like the other 2 versions.

I know you can't judge a whole album by one song of course.

But you think they would want to make a good impression?

Like when i heard the CRUE song (Saints of L.A.) on the radio i was like WOW!

I heard the new METALLICA song, And i was like? Well it got better towards the end.

You know what i mean?

But i do very much like both bands.

I grew up with both in the 80's.

[Ginsu Victim]

I haven't listened to Crue since Dr Feelgood, and even that album bored me. I was more into them during the Shout at the Devil days.

Metallica hasn't impressed me since Justice (though Garage Inc gets a lot of play). I hated the black album when it came out, but over the years, it has grown on me (mainly because everything after that was such crap).

What I've seen and heard from Death Magnetic so far gives me hope, but they've let me down so many times in the recent past, that I'm taking a "wait and see" approach.

For now, though...UP THE IRONS!

[ToplessZ]

What kind of monitor are you using in your MK3 machine?  Is that mame MK3?

[BUCKETHEAD]

For now, though...UP THE IRONS!

Seems like every band has a DYNASTY run!

I love IRON MAIDEN! 

But let's face it?

SOMEWHERE IN TIME or SEVENTH SON OF A SEVENTH SON was the end of that Dynasty.   

[Xiaou2]

 I threw up a little inside my mouth from seeing that crappy video.   If your gona
play Justice as it should be heard and remembered... it should be played with the
original crew,  and at the time when Hetfeild actually sounds good.   After he changed
his singing style... hes stunk up the bands sound bigtime.


 Metallica was great before the Black Album.   The Black album was soso...  and then
they turned to Metallicrap.

 Stupid me... I actually bought  'Load'  without listening first.   Never again.

 All of what Ive heard after the black.. wouldnt even get an up an comming band
noticed.   Its really that crappy. 

 
 Now... on the other hand...  I had been starting to get into  MegaDeth... and these
guys have put out some Great material on their RECENT albums.

 I admit... that I didnt get into them in the early days.    I particularly didnt care for
Daves high-midrangy voice.   However, it would seem that was just an issue with
bad EQ work.   On albums like  Countdown... his voice is F/N killer       Its one
of my favs actually.   Not so much for the well known titles on it... but for songs like
"Sweating Bullets" "High Speed Dirt" and more.   It pretty much stomps Metallica's
feeble efforts.    Listening to Dave's voice EQ'd properly.. .and its superior by leaps and bounds compared with Hetfeilds voice.    Dave has so much more Personality in his singing.  More range too.


 I also started to listen to their past material.   I have to say... songs like
"Holy Wars" "Tornado Of Souls" "Five Magics"  Are just insane!     Their Solos are
much more pleasing to the ears.  The ever changing rhythm guitar is much complex
and varied.   The drum work is amazing too.   
 
 Go back even further to   "The Conjuring"  and "Wake up the Dead"
have some of the most Luscious guitar work.   Kirks solos are "ehh".   They fit... but they
do not really inspire much.    Where as these... you really look forward to hearing them.

 
 Again... going to the present..  Check out a song like  " Amerikhastan"   and see
how much more tail it kicks than anything recent put out by  Over_The_Hill_Ica.


 A few funny things... are how they are trying to put out yet another version of
Unforgivin.   Beating a dead horse dry!  lol    Its so pathetic that it makes the head
hurt even contemplating it.     

 Also funny is the Title  "Death Magnetic".    Almost as bad as Load.    What the
heck does magnetism have to do with death?!   Crappy concepts.  Crappy songs.

 Want further proof on how washed up and talentless they have become?  Watch
their own documentary  "Some Kind of Monster".   Watching them fumble in the
studio trying so hard to make ANYTHING is a real joke.   

 Everything that was played sounded extremely lame.   All the ideas were based
around what was done in the past, rather than what would sound good... or any
meaningful purpose...

 The only reason they get away with it... is because of the past works.. and the
large bankroll they have.   

 I USED to Love them... but now... they are simply depressingly awful.

 Time to hang up those Guitars.   Metallica is no more.

[Ummon]

Metallica died with Cliff, and To Live Is To Die underlined it.

Hetfield sounds great as a baritone. He just needs to use it right.

Of course, there's metal (like Preist and Maiden), and then there's METAL - which died in any case in the 90s.

[Xiaou2]

Just thought Id post this Awesome Soundcheck vid:
(turn up your Bass    )


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Great song from Count Down:
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Here is a Live performance of one of Megadeth's newest albums songs

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[MK3FAN]

   

 I USED to Love them... but now... they are simply depressingly awful.

 Time to hang up those Guitars.   Metallica is no more.

I am sorry you feel that way. You have to go with the flow when bands change their sound or their direction. Who the hell wants to listen the the same album recorded 10 different times? If you don't change, you die. Look at it from James' point of view. He's go so many ideas and riffs in his head, he has to get them all out and they are not going to please everyone all the time.

[BUCKETHEAD]

Listening to Dave's voice EQ'd properly.. .and its superior by leaps and bounds compared with Hetfeilds voice.    Dave has so much more Personality in his singing.  More range too.

I agree with you! Very much so, On most of your METALLICA thoughts.

Also love MEGADETH. Rust in Peace was such an awesome album!

I do like Dave's voice!  But have you ever noticed?

That he also sounds alot like STEPHEN PEARCY from RATT?

If you don't believe me? Give some RATT a spin!

[Ginsu Victim]

Oh hell yeah, Rust in Peace is one of my top favorite metal albums ever. Marty Friedman FTW!

[Singapura]

Long live KILL'EM ALL, LIGHTNING, PUPPETS and JUSTICE

X2 

[MK3FAN]

 Also funny is the Title  "Death Magnetic".    Almost as bad as Load.    What the
heck does magnetism have to do with death?!   Crappy concepts.  Crappy songs.

 

Here is what it means....

On July 16, 2008 (2008-07-16), James Hetfield commented on the album's title:
“    Death Magnetic, at least the title, to me [...] started out as kind of a tribute to people that have fallen in our business, like Layne Staley and a lot of the people that have died, basically — rock and roll martyrs of sorts. And then it kind of grew from there, thinking about death… some people are drawn towards it, and just like a magnet, [and] other people are afraid of it and push away. And the concept that we're all gonna die sometimes is over-talked about and then a lot of times never talked about — no one wants to bring it up; it's the big white elephant in the living room. But we all have to deal with it at some point.[4]    ”

Also, somehow this turned into a 'Tallica bashing thread. I started it to show off what I thought was a cool concept with the video on the Mame cab. I don't think it needs to go any further. If you wanna talk about how crappy 'Tallica has become, please start another thread.

[Ginsu Victim]

Oh, I'm sorry, didn't realize this was the "Everyone agrees with you" thread.

[Ginsu Victim]

Yeah, I love everything from Kill Em All to Justice, but I've burned myself out on those albums over the past 20+ years.

[Ummon]

Mustaine and Hetfield offer (or, rather, offered) different things. Both of them are down and out, now.

“    Death Magnetic, at least the title, to me [...] started out as kind of a tribute to people that have fallen in our business, like Layne Staley and a lot of the people that have died, basically — rock and roll martyrs of sorts. And then it kind of grew from there, thinking about death… some people are drawn towards it, and just like a magnet, [and] other people are afraid of it and push away. And the concept that we're all gonna die sometimes is over-talked about and then a lot of times never talked about — no one wants to bring it up; it's the big white elephant in the living room. But we all have to deal with it at some point.[4]    ”

First off, since when did metal (let alone METAL) become rock? I hear it coming......LAME.

Second, that's just it, the lyrical content hasn't changed. It's the same juvenile stuff. More so, in ways.

Lastly, band loyalty is retarded. They either play remarkable music, or they don't. And they haven't for a long time. Pantera succeded them. (For two albums.) Sepultura succeded them. (For an album, anyway.) Then there was death metal. Then it died, too. So be it.

[shardian]

I liked Load, mainly because I was too young to get into Metallica's early stuff. It is most definitely a different sound - a more mature sound - which stands as good work in its own right. I also liked the album they recorded with the orchestra. And yes, their old stuff was great.

I never was a fan of Lars though. He is not a very creative drummer - basically uses the same drum line for every single song. Pretty much any rock or metal band on the national scene had a better drummer than Metallica.

[BUCKETHEAD]

Pretty much any rock or metal band on the national scene had a better drummer than Metallica.

Yeah,

TOMMY LEE

[Ginsu Victim]

Pretty much any rock or metal band on the national scene had a better drummer than Metallica.

Yeah,

TOMMY LEE

Neil Peart still plays, so he's still king.

[BUCKETHEAD]

Neil Peart still plays, so he's still king.

Till i see him play upside down in a cage.

With Fire blasting on both sides of him.

I'm sticking with MR. LEE   

[MK3FAN]

The new video is up for those who care to see it...

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=41722462

Obviously, this video is intended to mean that "The Day That Never Comes" is the day that you get to go home to your family and away from the hell that is war, but that day never comes. Irregardless, I like it. It has deeper meaning for me, mainly because I was in the Navy for 6 years stationed on a Marine Corps base and I am friends with a couple guys who are still over 'there'.

[BUCKETHEAD]

What is up with James Hetfields,

Yoda lay e who, Style of singing now?

2nd time i heard the song,

I still agree with my first impression of it.

It gets better towards the last half,

The first for me is almost unbearable.

[Ginsu Victim]

Yeah, I saw this a few days ago. I hate the first half, but once the drums kick in and the solos start, it's great.

And, yeah Buckethead, I haven't liked James' singing style in a very long time.

[Xiaou2]

2nd half  Great?!  Did you listen to the Entire 2nd section?
 

 I admit... there was a glimmer of hope when the 2nd section started up... but
that faded really fast. 


 Its Mediocre at Best.   ( 10,000 extra points for Hetfeild not singing )   

 Really... Its a train wreck. 


 Its like there is no direction at all.   Just bouts of this and that.. and it doesnt
fit well with each other section.   Sorta like putting deli garlic pickles on
ice cream.   Separately,  they are great... but they just dont fit together.

 If anyone tried to put just the ending of this song into a
"battle of the bands" competition... they would come in dead last more than
likely.

 Its shocking... that if you look back at their musical only pieces such as "Orion",
... that they could even put together such crap today.

 If you like it... more power to ya.   There are always those few who find
Ice cream and Pickles a good combination.


 However... lets not continue to give these guys false credit.   Yes, we applaud their
past work...  but be honest...  this new stuff is garbage.

[Ginsu Victim]

2nd half  Great?!  Did you listen to the Entire 2nd section?

Nope

I just skipped around a bit because I was at work.

Its shocking... that if you look back at their musical only pieces such as "Orion",
... that they could even put together such crap today.

It's the Cliff factor that's missing. He had the most prog rock influence of any of them.

[Donkey_Kong]

Yea, I'm hoping the rest of the album is better than that song. I have faith that it will be.

I've liked pretty much everything (at least for awhile) they have put out since the very beggining. The "Black Album", for example, the first 6-8 times hearing it I thought it was a joke. I thought there would be a hidden album within the album that was going to pop out anytime and say..."HA-HA, you didn't actually think that was IT, DID YOU!?" Well needless to say that never happened. Eventually I learned to like it though, a lot.

[TOK]

That song really grew on me. I like it now that I've heard it a few times.
My original interpretation of it was that it was about child abuse. 

I've also heard My Apocalypse, which I like. There was one song I really didn't like that I heard months ago. It was live from a concert in Germany. At the time they just referred to it as the new song. The lyric was about death being the beginning, not the end. Did that track make the CD?

[Ummon]

Its shocking... that if you look back at their musical only pieces such as "Orion",
... that they could even put together such crap today.

It's the Cliff factor that's missing. He had the most prog rock influence of any of them.

No such thing in their music. He had a classical sensibility. Prog is different.

That song really grew on me. I like it now that I've heard it a few times.

That's too bad.

[TOK]

That's too bad.

C'mon man, you pretty much negate your opinion when you say metal died in the 90's. 
There are still lots of great straightforward metal bands like The Sword and Mastadon and Iced Earth, and killer highly technical metal bands like Opeth.

[Ginsu Victim]

Its shocking... that if you look back at their musical only pieces such as "Orion",
... that they could even put together such crap today.

It's the Cliff factor that's missing. He had the most prog rock influence of any of them.

No such thing in their music. He had a classical sensibility. Prog is different.

Classical and prog go hand in hand. Listen to some Gabriel-era Genesis, ELP, 70s Yes, and 70s Rush (Geddy Lee was a huge influence on Cliff).

[Ummon]

That's too bad.

C'mon man, you pretty much negate your opinion when you say metal died in the 90's. 
There are still lots of great straightforward metal bands like The Sword and Mastadon and Iced Earth, and killer highly technical metal bands like Opeth.

Iced Earth started in the late 80s. The were just as bad then. Metal did die in the 90's. Since then, there has been nothing new. It's been a bunch of regurgitation, addition of cheesy major and minor keys (still no real harmony, though), and watering-down by infusion of rock and weaker metal.

This 'technical' thing you mention. It has little meaning.

Its shocking... that if you look back at their musical only pieces such as "Orion",
... that they could even put together such crap today.

It's the Cliff factor that's missing. He had the most prog rock influence of any of them.

No such thing in their music. He had a classical sensibility. Prog is different.

Classical and prog go hand in hand. Listen to some Gabriel-era Genesis, ELP, 70s Yes, and 70s Rush (Geddy Lee was a huge influence on Cliff).

They don't. First off, 'Classical' is an era - approximately 1750-1825. Second, the musical structure - harmony, form, and the relationship between the two - is far different than you understand, and is only slightly if at all utilized in pop culture. Third, Cliff studied classical guitar and hence the literature of the instrument's repertoire is what you hear an influence of in things like the intro to Fight Fire with Fire. Moreover, many of their songs from Lightning and Puppets use a basic sonata form (tonal scheme of A section in major, B section in/modulation to sub-mediant; or tonic in minor and modulation to the mediant - whereas Kill 'Em All was mostly blues/rock-based), which I'm betting is also example of Cliff's guitar experience.

[Ginsu Victim]

 

[TOK]

That's too bad.

C'mon man, you pretty much negate your opinion when you say metal died in the 90's. 
There are still lots of great straightforward metal bands like The Sword and Mastadon and Iced Earth, and killer highly technical metal bands like Opeth.

Iced Earth started in the late 80s. The were just as bad then. Metal did die in the 90's. Since then, there has been nothing new. It's been a bunch of regurgitation, addition of cheesy major and minor keys (still no real harmony, though), and watering-down by infusion of rock and weaker metal.

This 'technical' thing you mention. It has little meaning.

Really? Got some youtube vid or you laying down some of their stuff? How about some Meshuggah?
I think you're talkin' out yer butt. 

[Ummon]

There are composers and there's the audience. Then there's popculture.

Really? Got some youtube vid or you laying down some of their stuff? How about some Meshuggah?
I think you're talkin' out yer butt. 

You're not understanding.

[TOK]

There are composers and there's the audience. Then there's popculture.

Really? Got some youtube vid or you laying down some of their stuff? How about some Meshuggah?
I think you're talkin' out yer butt. 

You're not understanding.

Or you're completely wrong.