Author Topic: favourite N64 wrestling game? (Read 7241 times)

danny_galaga · « **on:** August 12, 2008, 10:24:27 am »

ok, a few of you have sold me on the wrestling. i think ill get me one. but which one? at the moment im leaning towards 'no mercy'. if you could only have one wrestling game in your N64 collection, which would it be? heres a list to refresh your memories (",)

ChadTower · « **Reply #1 on:** August 12, 2008, 10:36:59 am »

The WCW vs NWO games. Still tons of fun today if you had a truce with the other player to not use the analog stick to kick out of pins.

Stay away from the Acclaim games. They were terrible.

shardian · « **Reply #2 on:** August 12, 2008, 10:51:55 am »

WCW Vs. NWO was good. It is a well rounded game that anyone can play and even do finisher moves in. In the WWF games, you had to memorize special moves to do anything other than punch.

Ginsu Victim · « **Reply #3 on:** August 12, 2008, 10:57:23 am »

WCW/nWo: Revenge is great, but No Mercy improved on all the AKI games in major ways. Either of those are well worth getting.

Though WCW/nWo World Tour and Wrestlemania 2000 are good, they're nowhere near as good as the two I've recommended.

And, yes, avoid Acclaim's games.

In order, you should look for:
1. No Mercy
2. WCW/nWo: Revenge
3. Wrestlemania 2000
4. WCW/nWo: World Tour

Don't pass on the bottom two if they're all you can find. They're great, but try your best to find the top two.

danny_galaga · « **Reply #4 on:** August 14, 2008, 04:36:13 am »

just bought WCW/NWO Revenge for $2.76

ive learnt to take it easy nowadays (now ive bought most of the titles im interested in. why couldnt the penny have dropped early on in the piece?) just have to remember its not the only one ever made

Ginsu Victim · « **Reply #5 on:** August 14, 2008, 08:19:54 am »

Let us know what you think of it. Great price, btw.

DantheApe · « **Reply #6 on:** August 27, 2008, 08:10:01 am »

if you are a fan of imports, go with Virtual Prowrestling 2

it's got all the best from no mercy but has some of the greats from japan, and if i remember right it you can unlock all the movelists from the wwf and wcw games.

Ginsu Victim · « **Reply #7 on:** August 27, 2008, 11:09:31 am »

yeah, I've wanted to get my hands on VPW2 for a while. I'm a big puroresu fan.

conkhi · « **Reply #8 on:** August 27, 2008, 07:47:03 pm »

favorite WCW/nWo: Revenge

Nivek TT · « **Reply #9 on:** August 28, 2008, 07:02:46 am »

My favourite was No Mercy. Such a shame AKI never made any more grapplers (Def Jam doesn't count!).

Malacus · « **Reply #10 on:** August 28, 2008, 12:30:40 pm »

Sure def jam counts! If def jam had any kind of edit modes it would be a top pick!

I wish AKI would do a fantasy wrestler. I dont care about licensed characters, I loved Power Move Pro when it came out... If they just made something with completely original everything, and it played like No Mercy and at least looked like Def Jam, it would HAVE to be a best seller. Or do like Fire Pro does to get around the licensing

If you give people the option of adding their own music and videos to the game, they would just make whoever they wanted to stick in it anyway.

Does anyone know if the Galactic Wrestling/Ultimate Muscle games play the same way? AKI did some of those and I just cant find them anymore.

Anyway... No Mercy and VPW2 are definitely the best, mostly they're all the same game, but the later versions would keep adding something obvious (running grapples didnt make it in until No Mercy if I recall)

Since you own the games, you could load the roms up in one of the PC emulators (want to say Project 1964) and by using one of the Video Plugins, edit in whatever you wanted. From changing the ring mats to even grabbing the textures from WCW rasslers and sticking them in No Mercy, there was a pretty big scene for just this a few years ago, and were even entire game edits for WCW, TNA and ROH

-mal

N64 games play splendidly on 1964 with an Xbox or 360 controller

ChadTower · « **Reply #11 on:** August 28, 2008, 01:59:08 pm »

Oooh... No Mercy edit for ROH? Haven't seen, must find.

Ginsu Victim · « **Reply #12 on:** August 28, 2008, 02:03:53 pm »

Quote

Does anyone know if the Galactic Wrestling/Ultimate Muscle games play the same way? AKI did some of those and I just cant find them anymore

Yeah, only more arcadey and VERY FREAKIN' HARD!

As for running grapples, yes, No Mercy has them.

I'm sick of Smackdown vs Raw games. Give me AKI or Fire Pro any day.

King of Colloseum II is a good one. Not a fan of Toukon Retsuden games, though.

Malacus · « **Reply #13 on:** August 28, 2008, 07:50:23 pm »

ROH vs TNA
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_GncITiSxg[/youtube]

v1.0 of the mod, http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2FR72JMN
dont know if there were more versions, and its kinda old, id say 2006ish

-mal

there were way more out there, I had done a few individual characters myself since its pretty easy to do the re-textures.

danny_galaga · « **Reply #14 on:** August 29, 2008, 08:01:28 am »

Quote from: Malacus on August 28, 2008, 12:30:40 pm

Since you own the games, you could load the roms up in one of the PC emulators (want to say Project 1964) and by using one of the Video Plugins, edit in whatever you wanted. From changing the ring mats to even grabbing the textures from WCW rasslers and sticking them in No Mercy, there was a pretty big scene for just this a few years ago, and were even entire game edits for WCW, TNA and ROH

just curious, why would you need to own the game to load the rom into project 64?

ChadTower · « **Reply #15 on:** August 29, 2008, 08:29:38 am »

I'm guessing because he's trying not to break the forum rules.

danny_galaga · « **Reply #16 on:** August 29, 2008, 10:15:06 am »

Quote from: ChadTower on August 29, 2008, 08:29:38 am

I'm guessing because he's trying not to break the forum rules.

wouldnt help

http://www.nintendo.com/corp/legal.jsp#emergence

Malacus · « **Reply #17 on:** August 29, 2008, 11:06:11 am »

Quote from: danny_galaga on August 29, 2008, 10:15:06 am

Quote from: ChadTower on August 29, 2008, 08:29:38 am

I'm guessing because he's trying not to break the forum rules.

wouldnt help

http://www.nintendo.com/corp/legal.jsp#emergence

Would you really expect Nintendo to openly say that their roms ARE legal?

-mal

Ginsu Victim · « **Reply #18 on:** August 29, 2008, 11:21:21 am »

At least they changed their wording. They used to call emulators illegal, but backed off on that (while still demonizing them).

ChadTower · « **Reply #19 on:** August 29, 2008, 11:30:22 am »

Oh hai... if this is a full blown ROM... then you should be able to inject it into a WAD and drop it onto a Wii...

Must... do....

Malacus · « **Reply #20 on:** August 29, 2008, 11:24:11 pm »

The n64 texture editing doesn't work that way.
you use a certain video plug-in that 'cancels' the in-game textures and replaces them with the users.

i suppose it may be possible to actually inject the user textures in but i wouldn't know if anyone has ever done it. some of the mods also require gameshark codes to correct the in-game models to more closely resemble what they are trying to re-texture, the arena mods are heavy in GS Code.

And it should be noted that the re-texturing can be done on any n64 game (as far as I know) Ive seen some updating Mario 64s and i theorize that the XBLA version of Goldeneye spotted awhile ago may have just been a re-texture (i didnt see enough info or pictures to know either way)

-mal

ChadTower · « **Reply #21 on:** August 30, 2008, 04:33:12 pm »

Ah... so it's not a modified ROM... it's a sniffer attached to the ROM.

danny_galaga · « **Reply #22 on:** September 02, 2008, 04:11:55 am »

well, ive had WCW/nWo: Revenge here for over a week now. i went to a friends on saturday, and took it with me, but we ended up drinking and watching movies instead (titan AE. not bad). so i cant yet say what i think of this game (only interested in the multiplayer aspect of it).

might have a chance to road test it this saturday though. had a friend over to play my mame cab. we put in a few sessions on the machine when we both lived in darwin, so it was good for the three of us to get re-aquainted (",) anyway, while we were at it, i showed him the wonders of the N64. like me, he had never played one back in the day. we played goldeneye. he was very impressed. hes getting married soon, bucks party this weekend. we are going to set up the cocktail cab and the N64 on his new deck in the back yard. another friend hires out AV equipment. he'll be supplying a nice projector and screen. should be fun. i just have to pick up another controller by then. i actually have 4, but one is NIB, and i cant bear to get it dirty!

Ginsu Victim · « **Reply #23 on:** September 02, 2008, 10:51:53 am »

Dude, drinking and playing multiplayer Revenge is the best way to play! It always turns real at some point!

Hemi · « **Reply #24 on:** September 02, 2008, 11:31:57 pm »

Playing arcade games in MAME is even better than the N64 while drinking. The best part is thinking you're getting many free credits on your machine while never inserting a coin.

Ginsu Victim · « **Reply #25 on:** September 03, 2008, 10:08:47 am »

Quote from: Hemi on September 02, 2008, 11:31:57 pm

Playing arcade games in MAME is even better than the N64 while drinking. The best part is thinking you're getting many free credits on your machine while never inserting a coin.

Have you played WCW/nWo Revenge? Especially with 3 other drunks?

Hemi · « **Reply #26 on:** September 03, 2008, 07:27:50 pm »

Quote from: GinsuVictim on September 03, 2008, 10:08:47 am

Quote from: Hemi on September 02, 2008, 11:31:57 pm
Playing arcade games in MAME is even better than the N64 while drinking. The best part is thinking you're getting many free credits on your machine while never inserting a coin.

Have you played WCW/nWo Revenge? Especially with 3 other drunks?

I haven't had the pleasure as of yet.

Ginsu Victim · « **Reply #27 on:** September 03, 2008, 08:43:13 pm »

Then how can you say what's better?

Hemi · « **Reply #28 on:** September 03, 2008, 08:54:12 pm »

I'm sure it's fun, my point was about MAME only because you normally would have to pay to play but would enjoy it more while drunk not having to pay. There is something different and better about playing an arcade machine over a console, but yeah, we do not have to get into a MAME VS console debate here. The N64 is fun in it's own way.

Ginsu Victim · « **Reply #29 on:** September 03, 2008, 11:07:07 pm »

I've got over $800 so far in my cabinet. That's a lot of quarters I've paid.

And no one was debating N64 vs Mame. We were discussing N64 wrestling games.

You bitched about people hijacking your New Orleans thread, so don't come change the subject in here.

Hemi · « **Reply #30 on:** September 04, 2008, 12:14:39 am »

Stop causing conflicts for no reason and be nice. You were talking about drinking and I made a MAME drinking comment, no big deal, put your gun back in your holster. And you want to talk about me coming off badly, Jesus Christ.

ChadTower · « **Reply #31 on:** September 04, 2008, 09:05:44 am »

No ones to hear of Hemi coming off or on anything.

danny_galaga · « **Reply #32 on:** September 05, 2008, 03:59:51 am »

we took the mame cab to my friends last night. his fiance was most impressed. she was trying to describe a game that has hedgehogs in it that came down and attacked you. we figured out it was moon cresta! i always thought of them as rambutans...

anyway, shes already displaced my high scores on it. i dont think shell get to my friends high score of 24000 something though. i hope not. he set it when the cab was in a different state. will be hard for him to have another stab at it

had another look at the wrestling game last night. im warming to it being a cool multiplayer. i dont want to play it until the get together. these things are always more fun when the playing field is kinda level. what about goldeneye? well, maybe i can just use the slapper

danny_galaga · « **Reply #33 on:** September 10, 2008, 06:17:09 am »

well, the juries out on the wrestling game. we had our bucks night gaming session. played all sorts on the cab. on the N64 we played mario cart, a little f zero x and the wrestling game. after one 2 on 2 tag game though we were all wondering what had happened? none of us knew what we were doing and it showed! i stil think it might be good as a two player though so ill give it another shot next time someones around. maybe learn a few basic moves.

in the end goldeneye was the clear favourite

ChadTower · « **Reply #34 on:** September 10, 2008, 09:07:31 am »

Just use Scott Norton and powerbomb the opponent over and over and over again.

Ginsu Victim · « **Reply #35 on:** September 10, 2008, 09:23:22 am »

For some reason, I always hated it when my friend would use the European uppercut on me over and over.

Damn you, Fit Finlay!!

DantheApe · « **Reply #36 on:** September 10, 2008, 01:12:14 pm »

in revenge, I always went with Raven. He was by far one of my faves in any of the aki games. Hell I dropped $60 (back in the day that was a LOT for a game) just because he was in it.

all my friends were marks for goldberg and hogan...I was the weirdo quoting Raven

Ginsu Victim · « **Reply #37 on:** September 10, 2008, 01:37:53 pm »

Quote from: DantheApe on September 10, 2008, 01:12:14 pm

in revenge, I always went with Raven. He was by far one of my faves in any of the aki games. Hell I dropped $60 (back in the day that was a LOT for a game) just because he was in it.

all my friends were marks for goldberg and hogan...I was the weirdo quoting Raven

Same here. I bought it the day it came out...and I didn't even own an N64!

I used Raven mostly, though it's got a great collection of cruiserweights, as well.

DantheApe · « **Reply #38 on:** September 11, 2008, 06:10:18 am »

oh yea, the cruisers are great in that one

but Aki-Man (Misawa move set) and Raven were my faves

Ginsu Victim · « **Reply #39 on:** September 11, 2008, 08:21:14 am »

Oh yeah, Aki-Man, the Dr Death Steve Williams clone, and that Hayabusa clone. Several great Japanese wrestlers made to look generic that are well worth using. Trying to recall if there was a Muta clone or not...


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