Author Topic: Where can I find Z26 configured for a cab? (Read 8039 times)

colonelsnow · « **on:** June 08, 2003, 05:50:01 pm »

Does anyone have a copy of Z26 complied with Mame key controls?

rampy · « **Reply #1 on:** June 08, 2003, 06:44:34 pm »

Or stella =P

*Shrug*

Rampy

Jakobud · « **Reply #2 on:** June 11, 2003, 05:09:44 pm »

Well the source is available for these. I wish i knew about programming because I would compile a custom version to share.

joeblade · « **Reply #3 on:** June 11, 2003, 08:51:17 pm »

I managed to compile z26 about 2 months back. I haven't got around to modifying it (so that the keys are either configurable or more cab friendly (but hard coded)) yet though.

If nothing else turns up, give me a yell and I will up the priority of this task on my list of things I need/want to do.

I am intending on using z26 in my cab as the preferred 2600 emu, so will get around to it at some point.

Cheers

colonelsnow · « **Reply #4 on:** June 11, 2003, 09:48:22 pm »

Quote from: joeblade on June 11, 2003, 08:51:17 pm

I managed to compile z26 about 2 months back. I haven't got around to modifying it (so that the keys are either configurable or more cab friendly (but hard coded)) yet though.

If nothing else turns up, give me a yell and I will up the priority of this task on my list of things I need/want to do.

I am intending on using z26 in my cab as the preferred 2600 emu, so will get around to it at some point.

Cheers

Someone sent me an older dos version of Z26 cofigured with Mame controls. . If anyone wants it e-mail me

tyweed · « **Reply #5 on:** June 17, 2003, 02:16:02 pm »

i'm interested in this z26 compiled for mame button config. if anyone finds it let me know

bdsjake · « **Reply #6 on:** June 18, 2003, 07:50:07 pm »

downloaded "PCAE", and Atari 2600 emulator. Can remap. Haven't played it much so can't compare.

BuZz880 · « **Reply #7 on:** June 19, 2003, 12:35:51 am »

Thanks for the tip, last time I looked at PCAE you couldn't remap anything this might solve a problem I have been having - MY DOS z26 that has been remapped does not play nice with Win2K. I'll test this PCAE tomorrow hopefully.

BuZz880 · « **Reply #8 on:** June 19, 2003, 02:23:11 pm »

I can't get PCAEwin to work fullscreen with Win2K and ArcadeVGA - anyone have any ideas?

rampy · « **Reply #9 on:** June 19, 2003, 03:38:16 pm »

Quote from: BuZz880 on June 19, 2003, 02:23:11 pm

I can't get PCAEwin to work fullscreen with Win2K and ArcadeVGA - anyone have any ideas?

have someone recompile win stella with remappable keys... then we could all be happy ! =P (or z26)

*shrug*

rampy

PacManFan · « **Reply #10 on:** June 19, 2003, 03:56:43 pm »

Quote from: rampy on June 19, 2003, 03:38:16 pm

Quote from: BuZz880 on June 19, 2003, 02:23:11 pm
I can't get PCAEwin to work fullscreen with Win2K and ArcadeVGA - anyone have any ideas?
have someone recompile win stella with remappable keys... then we could all be happy ! =P (or z26)

*shrug*

rampy

Give me a link to the source for win stella and I'll do it..
I haven't been able to find the sourece for the windows version anywhere.

-PacManFan

Hoagie_one · « **Reply #11 on:** June 19, 2003, 04:00:23 pm »

rampy · « **Reply #12 on:** June 19, 2003, 05:02:32 pm »

Quote from: PacManFan on June 19, 2003, 03:56:43 pm

Quote from: rampy on June 19, 2003, 03:38:16 pm
Quote from: BuZz880 on June 19, 2003, 02:23:11 pm
I can't get PCAEwin to work fullscreen with Win2K and ArcadeVGA - anyone have any ideas?
have someone recompile win stella with remappable keys... then we could all be happy ! =P (or z26)

*shrug*

rampy

Give me a link to the source for win stella and I'll do it..
I haven't been able to find the sourece for the windows version anywhere.

-PacManFan

I've been confused by this myself PMF.. they have a sourceforge page... is the win port just a recompile in a windoze environment/platform...?

*shrug* it's confusing to me...

Thanks for looking at it PMF.
rampy

BuZz880 · « **Reply #13 on:** June 19, 2003, 08:44:16 pm »

Hey PMF, if ypou are serious I would vote that Z26 is probably the better way to go. I could never figure out how to compile it but I find it easy to determine from the source what needs to be changed. Hey if you do Stella I'll take it but thought I'd throw my vote in.

The Z26 source is here:
I think we all want the Windows version - I have a DOS version already for anyone that wants it.

http://www.whimsey.com/z26/z26.html

PacManFan · « **Reply #14 on:** June 19, 2003, 10:11:57 pm »

Quote from: rampy on June 19, 2003, 05:02:32 pm

Quote from: PacManFan on June 19, 2003, 03:56:43 pm
Quote from: rampy on June 19, 2003, 03:38:16 pm
Quote from: BuZz880 on June 19, 2003, 02:23:11 pm
I can't get PCAEwin to work fullscreen with Win2K and ArcadeVGA - anyone have any ideas?
have someone recompile win stella with remappable keys... then we could all be happy ! =P (or z26)

*shrug*

rampy

Give me a link to the source for win stella and I'll do it..
I haven't been able to find the sourece for the windows version anywhere.

-PacManFan

I've been confused by this myself PMF.. they have a sourceforge page... is the win port just a recompile in a windoze environment/platform...?

*shrug* it's confusing to me...

Thanks for looking at it PMF.
rampy

Yeah, I've been to the sourceforge page, and I've downloaded the DOS version, The window$ version is more than just a re-compile, it's a differant beast altogther. If someone could point me to the Windows source version for Stella or z26, I'll be happy to give it a try, I've got MSVC, GCC, TurboC, and the MinGW distribution w/ allegro.
-PacManFan

PacManFan · « **Reply #15 on:** June 19, 2003, 10:14:28 pm »

Quote from: BuZz880 on June 19, 2003, 08:44:16 pm

Hey PMF, if ypou are serious I would vote that Z26 is probably the better way to go. I could never figure out how to compile it but I find it easy to determine from the source what needs to be changed. Hey if you do Stella I'll take it but thought I'd throw my vote in.

The Z26 source is here:
I think we all want the Windows version - I have a DOS version already for anyone that wants it.

http://www.whimsey.com/z26/z26.html

My bad, I just got the windows version for Z26, I'll take a look at it now. So what does everyone want? re-configurable keys, or a standard MAME key set?
-PacManFan

tyweed · « **Reply #16 on:** June 19, 2003, 10:55:33 pm »

configurable keys is nice but mame set be ok too considering it is just 1 button. By the way pacmanfan i'm an aspiring programmer and very interested to learn how you edit the keyboard configs. When i opened up the source i noticed there was a file called "keyboard" inside this i noticed that assembly was used. I took a basic class on assembly.When it says for example

;KeyZ =         02Ch      ; Z (P2 left)
;KeyX =         02Dh      ; X (P2 right)
;KeyC =         02Eh      ; C (P2 down)
;KeyF =         021h      ; F (P2 Up)
;KeyG =         022h      ; G (P2 Fire)

is the 02ch just the memory location in hex where the storage of keyz is?

Is there a site or something that will go into more detail about how you move this around then take all those files and compile them together into a working z26.exe file

BuZz880 · « **Reply #17 on:** June 20, 2003, 10:36:13 am »

If you are going to do it PMF, don't stop at the "1 key" please. It would be nice to have all keys for player 1 and player 2 working as well as ESC for exit and P1start for game start and P2start for select game

The version I have works well (in DOS) I edited the source asm myself and had someone else compile it. IIt was perfect on the first try. It has been quite a long time but I know it was definitely a few keys that had to change to match MAME. Seems to me all the keys and their related codes are contained in the source so it is simply a matter of copying the right code to the appropriate control function all within keyboard.asm

rampy · « **Reply #18 on:** June 20, 2003, 10:37:30 am »

Quote from: PacManFan on June 19, 2003, 10:14:28 pm

Quote from: BuZz880 on June 19, 2003, 08:44:16 pm
Hey PMF, if ypou are serious I would vote that Z26 is probably the better way to go. I could never figure out how to compile it but I find it easy to determine from the source what needs to be changed. Hey if you do Stella I'll take it but thought I'd throw my vote in.

The Z26 source is here:
I think we all want the Windows version - I have a DOS version already for anyone that wants it.

http://www.whimsey.com/z26/z26.html

My bad, I just got the windows version for Z26, I'll take a look at it now. So what does everyone want? re-configurable keys, or a standard MAME key set?
-PacManFan

Hey PMF,

When/if you get it working, let me know and I'll host it on drivel as to not cut into your monthly bandwith allotment, and peeps can get it from there (i'll be sure to credit you in the description and point to the official z26 sites)

Rampy

PacManFan · « **Reply #19 on:** June 20, 2003, 04:35:21 pm »

Success everyone!
I managed (finally) to get the code to compile. There were no docs on what compiler or assembler the guy was using. I re-compiled (with a few changes) under MSVC and using the MASM assembler.

Since most of the code is in assembler, I'm not going to try to make a file that can load up to define the keys, I'm going to hard code it into the program. Let's have a census about what keys we should map to the controls. Here is the current mapping:

; define control keys

P1Left =   KeyLeft
P1Right =   KeyRight
P1Up =      KeyUp
P1Down =   KeyDown
P1Fire =   KeyCtrl
P1TriggerBG =   KeySlash
P1BoosterBG =   KeyRShift

P2Left =   KeyS
P2Right =   KeyF
P2Up =      KeyE
P2Down =   KeyD
P2Fire =   KeyN
P2TriggerBG =   KeyB
P2BoosterBG =   KeyV

P1Pad1 =   Key7
P1Pad2 =   Key8
P1Pad3 =   Key9
P1Pad4 =   KeyU
P1Pad5 =   KeyI
P1Pad6 =   KeyO
P1Pad7 =   KeyJ
P1Pad8 =   KeyK
P1Pad9 =   KeyL
P1PadStar =   KeyM         ; *
P1Pad0 =   KeyComma
P1PadPound =   KeyDot         ; #

P2Pad1 =   Key1
P2Pad2 =   Key2
P2Pad3 =   Key3
P2Pad4 =   KeyQ
P2Pad5 =   KeyW
P2Pad6 =   KeyE
P2Pad7 =   KeyA
P2Pad8 =   KeyS
P2Pad9 =   KeyD
P2PadStar =   KeyZ         ; *
P2Pad0 =   KeyX
P2PadPound =   KeyC         ; #

ResetKey =   KeyF1
SelectKey =   KeyF2
BWKey =      KeyF3
ColorKey =   KeyF4
P0Easy=      KeyF5
P0Hard=      KeyF6
P1Easy=      KeyF7
P1Hard=      KeyF8

OK everyone, here's your chance to get a say in about what controls should map to what keys..

I'll check the forum later tonight on my home machine, and recompile then.
Rampy, Many thanks for the offer to host.

-PacManFan

rampy · « **Reply #20 on:** June 20, 2003, 04:56:59 pm »

Quote from: PacManFan on June 20, 2003, 04:35:21 pm

; define control keys

P1Left =

tyweed · « **Reply #21 on:** June 20, 2003, 05:28:03 pm »

looks good as long as

key 1 is for start

i'm good

rampy · « **Reply #22 on:** June 20, 2003, 07:24:27 pm »

Quote from: tyweed on June 20, 2003, 05:28:03 pm

looks good as long as

key 1 is for start

i'm good

I'm not sure Atari had a "start" button persay... =P *shrug*

but it's been ages since i've used one...

rampy

tyweed · « **Reply #23 on:** June 20, 2003, 07:55:44 pm »

well i said that wrong it is currently on z26 the f1 key.......

if f1 could be remapped to #1 key like mame to start game that be perfect!

BuZz880 · « **Reply #24 on:** June 20, 2003, 09:29:20 pm »

I have changed the following to match MAME. some of the difficulty settings and stuff are optional IMO

ResetKey = Key1
SelectKey = Key2

P1Fire = KeyCtrl
P1TriggerBG = KeyLAlt
P1BoosterBG = KeySpace

P2Left = KeyD
P2Right = KeyG
P2Up = KeyR
P2Down = KeyF
P2Fire = KeyA
P2TriggerBG = KeyS
P2BoosterBG = KeyQ

Sprucemoose · « **Reply #25 on:** June 21, 2003, 09:02:26 am »

PacManFan,
Thanks for all your work on this. I know next to nothing about programming, but is it not possible to make the keys configurable? I would prefer configurable over mame standards.

Just my $.02

PacManFan · « **Reply #26 on:** June 21, 2003, 02:11:13 pm »

Quote from: Sprucemoose on June 21, 2003, 09:02:26 am

PacManFan,
Thanks for all your work on this. I know next to nothing about programming, but is it not possible to make the keys configurable? I would prefer configurable over mame standards.

Just my $.02

Yes, It is possible, however, it's not practical in this case. I was hoping that the code would be written in c or c++, however, 75% or so of the code is in assembler, with many of the keyboard constants and other other constants hard-coded into the program. I'm going to get this version out, and then I'll look into making it remappable through a loaded key-file after I get the next version of EmuTron out.
-PacManFan.

PacManFan · « **Reply #27 on:** June 21, 2003, 03:13:16 pm »

OK everyone!,
You can download the MAME-Key version of z26 from:
www.pacmanfan.com/download

Try it out everyone, post some responses for feedback, so we can finalize a key layout that works for (almost) everyone.
Rampy, go ahead and make a mirror from my download site, I don't know how much this is going to cut into my monthly usage.

-PacManFan

PacManFan · « **Reply #28 on:** June 21, 2003, 03:27:43 pm »

Quote from: tyweed on June 19, 2003, 10:55:33 pm

configurable keys is nice but mame set be ok too considering it is just 1 button. By the way pacmanfan i'm an aspiring programmer and very interested to learn how you edit the keyboard configs. When i opened up the source i noticed there was a file called "keyboard" inside this i noticed that assembly was used. I took a basic class on assembly.When it says for example

;KeyZ =

BuZz880 · « **Reply #29 on:** June 21, 2003, 04:00:29 pm »

Good job, all keys work for me. The only thing I notice is player 1 fire is button 2 and player 2 fire is button 1. I'm not complaining though was wanting to upgrade from my crappy DOS hack for awhile.... thanks again.

rampy · « **Reply #30 on:** June 21, 2003, 10:25:05 pm »

PMF's recompile is now available/mirrored at Drivel's Download section

You'll have plenty of bandwith to make it through the month (unless there's an emutron release coming before the end of the month

)

Feel free to link directly to the download from your page PMF if you want (instead of pointing to within your /download/ directory... to conserve your bandwith and use some of mine)

It's no biggee as I've got more breathing room on my site, tis all...

Thanks for taking the time to recompile it for mame keys, you rule pmf!

Rampy

FWIW -> I zipped it and included the gpl and simple gpl text files as well as the readme text files -- as I thought it was appropriate/necessary.... *shrug*

rampy

slug54 · « **Reply #31 on:** June 22, 2003, 11:08:11 pm »

Thanks Pacman Fan and everone else involved in getting this re-compile done. I took a shot at re-compiling it a while back , But when it came to the assembler I couldn't figure out how to ge it to compile.

Good Job
Slug54

tyweed · « **Reply #32 on:** June 22, 2003, 11:28:53 pm »

It's a great remap i love it!

now if only pacmanfan could remap zinc!

damn left control spacebar and left alt are all function keys. It really sucks.

rampy · « **Reply #33 on:** June 23, 2003, 11:34:29 am »

Quote from: tyweed on June 22, 2003, 11:28:53 pm

It's a great remap i love it!

now if only pacmanfan could remap zinc!

damn left control spacebar and left alt are all function keys. It really sucks.

what? you can remap zinc... you use one of the helper apps -- it even lets you setup combo's presses if you're that type of player =P . any of the Zinc FE's should do this... assuming they use winterblasts control plugin. I'll look to see what specific one I use at home ...when I get home =P (once you get it configed you can then copy the neccessary files and command lines to your normal front end )

*shrug*

Rampy

tyweed · « **Reply #34 on:** June 23, 2003, 12:20:32 pm »

rampy that be great please do because right now with my ipac l-hift space and left-control are raster functions in zinc. If you have the fix for this please hook me up!

rampy · « **Reply #35 on:** June 23, 2003, 01:22:24 pm »

Quote from: tyweed on June 23, 2003, 12:20:32 pm

rampy that be great please do because right now with my ipac l-hift space and left-control are raster functions in zinc. If you have the fix for this please hook me up!

this isn't the one I used, but it has winterfellahs control plugin...

aldo's zinc front end once you change the controller config you can then figure out how to make sure those configs get called up when loading zinc from the commandline, in turn how to load them in gamelauncher/etc (for example)

*shrug* good luck! and i'll follow up with which one I use later but I imagine aldo's is functional

Rampy

tyweed · « **Reply #36 on:** June 23, 2003, 07:13:35 pm »

hey thanks i tried aldo's setup it works excpt the 3 buttons space,left-alt,l-shift still cause rendering to occur. So the picture starts to dissapear as you hit the,m. I can't seem to figure out how people with standard button config with ipac designed fore mame can run zinc

do you have an ipac set to mame default keys?

rampy · « **Reply #37 on:** June 23, 2003, 07:53:28 pm »

Quote from: tyweed on June 23, 2003, 07:13:35 pm

hey thanks i tried aldo's setup it works excpt the 3 buttons space,left-alt,l-shift still cause rendering to occur. So the picture starts to dissapear as you hit the,m. I can't seem to figure out how people with standard button config with ipac designed fore mame can run zinc

do you have an ipac set to mame default keys?

I have a key wiz set to default keys... actually I must not have play since I started reset the keys... so uh.. I'm having the same problem you are having, tyweed. Sorry to mislead you. I use zincgui FWIW.

I used to use a different config for mame but I stopped loading that keyset (which used to work with zinc because it didn't have the ctrl and alts in it) and am trying to go with defaults only... blah what a pain!

*Shrug*

rampy

tyweed · « **Reply #38 on:** June 23, 2003, 08:45:16 pm »

Hey np i hope to fins a fix for it ! if you do comew across something let me know!

Xochi · « **Reply #39 on:** June 24, 2003, 06:05:10 pm »

What a drag.... This version of Z26 just hangs on my cab machine (P2 running Win2k). I have to actually bring up the task manager and kill the process to get it to shut down. The weird thing is, it'll say "Z26 -- FROZEN" in the task list... Anyone have any idea what's wrong?

Thanks for any tips...


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