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Re: Peale's Donkey Kong Restoration/Conversion
« Reply #40 on: December 05, 2008, 03:21:31 am »
I thought they were M3.  According to Mikes Arcade they are...
I think the coin door bolts are M3. Got a link ?

I don't think so - the coin door bolts are bigger than the CP bolts.

http://www.mikesarcade.com/cgi-bin/store.pl?sku=CPNINBOLTSET

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Re: Peale's Donkey Kong Restoration/Conversion
« Reply #41 on: December 05, 2008, 04:35:46 pm »
Uh, actually, we're both wrong/right.

The CP and the coindoor bolts have the same size. But it _is_ M4:





Thus.....that's an error on Mike's site.
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Re: Peale's Donkey Kong Restoration/Conversion
« Reply #42 on: December 05, 2008, 04:48:27 pm »

If M4 is too hard to get locally you could just file the square hole a little larger.  Shouldn't need too much more to get a standard sized bolt in there.

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Re: Peale's Donkey Kong Restoration/Conversion
« Reply #43 on: December 05, 2008, 05:04:24 pm »
But the head would be bigger too I think ?

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Re: Peale's Donkey Kong Restoration/Conversion
« Reply #44 on: December 05, 2008, 10:59:33 pm »
But the head would be bigger too I think ?

How much bigger could it be?

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Re: Peale's Donkey Kong Restoration/Conversion
« Reply #45 on: December 08, 2008, 12:31:09 pm »
I found them locally, and now I know why the prices are so high @ Mike's Arcade.

They're cheap enough by themselves, but of course there is a stamp on the top of each one.  So I'm guessing that Mike must remove that and polish them all.   Labor = higher price.

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Re: Peale's Donkey Kong Restoration/Conversion
« Reply #46 on: December 08, 2008, 12:57:42 pm »
The one's I got from Luigi were polished on top right away. Did you find metric carriage bolts with the size stamped ?

I've never seen sizes stamped on top of the bolts like apparently is common in the US. It's pretty weird IMHO: you use carriage bolts to have a nice "finished" look on the top side. Else you could use a regular bolt. Then they stamp yukkie letters on the head  :dizzy: :dizzy:

There's a great thread on KLOV (or was it here) about how to remove them.

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Re: Peale's Donkey Kong Restoration/Conversion
« Reply #47 on: December 08, 2008, 02:32:52 pm »
It's the law in the US.  I'll just remove it.

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Re: Peale's Donkey Kong Restoration/Conversion
« Reply #48 on: December 09, 2008, 05:14:29 pm »
I received the first part of my art shipment today!  Never got a tracking number, it just appeared out of the blue.


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Re: Peale's Donkey Kong Restoration/Conversion
« Reply #49 on: December 16, 2008, 09:36:15 pm »
i hate to drag on the topic of bolt sizes, but the bolts I received from mike's look like 3mm???

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Re: Peale's Donkey Kong Restoration/Conversion
« Reply #50 on: December 17, 2008, 07:18:19 am »
What about the coin door?

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Re: Peale's Donkey Kong Restoration/Conversion
« Reply #51 on: December 17, 2008, 10:40:55 am »
I used some slot head bolts on my coin door as I didn't want to buy two sets of $10 bolts.. I still have 2 bolts left from the set I received from Mike's.. I'll try them on my coin door when I get home tonight and report back with pics..

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Re: Peale's Donkey Kong Restoration/Conversion
« Reply #52 on: December 17, 2008, 02:54:00 pm »
Luckily my coin door bolts are okay, they just need polishing/sealing.  The CP ones didn't fare so well.  I can't budge the nuts.  They'll have to be replaced.

I found them locally, but I have to order them in lots of 100.  I'll probably polish/seal them and sell them off.

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Re: Peale's Donkey Kong Restoration/Conversion
« Reply #53 on: March 21, 2009, 02:49:11 pm »
I thought I'd posted about a problem I had with this, but I guess I didn't.

Last fall I completely disassembled quite a bit of the cab - at least all the parts came out.  When I reassembled it it no longer worked.  :(  You'd power it up, but all you would get it 1/10 of a second of the startup sound, and nothing more.

Fast forward to today, thought I'd give everything a look over.

100% user error.  I plugged the video board power cable into the wrong connector.  I was trying to beat the darkness that day and it got the best of me.

Luckily it seems there is no damage.  Still have only 1/10 of a second of startup sound, but the game plays 100%.  *shrug*

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Re: Peale's Donkey Kong Restoration/Conversion
« Reply #54 on: March 22, 2009, 04:01:49 pm »
Ugh...I can't believe I just did what I did...

I have a coin door I salvaged from the dumpster @ my old job.  It was in FAR better condition than the door on the DK.  So I thought "why don't I just swap the guts and wiring..."

So I did.  I got everything in place, and then I went to close the door.  It was a bit stiff, so I gave it some additional strength...

...and then I saw why it was so stiff.  Stupid coin mechs...I'd put them in their place with the door completely open, which meant that the door frame was between the door and the mech.  So when I assembled it without looking (it was face down) it caught it in place.  I ended up bending the hell out of the frame.  >:(

So it looks like I'll be refinishing the original coin door anyway.  Just what I needed, something else to do. 
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Re: Peale's Donkey Kong Restoration/Conversion
« Reply #55 on: March 22, 2009, 04:12:02 pm »
I find myself making mistakes like that any time I feel myself in a rush.  :(
One of those "just when I thought I was getting ahead" sinking type feelings.
Not a technician . . . . just a DIY'er.

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Re: Peale's Donkey Kong Restoration/Conversion
« Reply #56 on: May 12, 2009, 02:25:44 pm »
I managed to destroy 3/8 of the bolts on the CP.  Luckily a KLOV member is  sending me some used ones for free to replace them.

I stripped down the marquee retainers with electrolysis.  I wish I'd learned about this process years ago!  They just need a bit of touching up and painting.

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Re: Peale's Donkey Kong Restoration/Conversion
« Reply #57 on: May 15, 2009, 04:42:08 pm »
I've been cleaning the  heck out of the CP today.  I removed rust from the parts with electrolysis, wiped them down, primed and painted an aluminum color.  100% better than what I started with (pitted iron colored crap).

Also painted the wooden CP itself.  Over the years the original faded to a sort of brown color.  I sprayed it with semi-gloss black.

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Re: Peale's Donkey Kong Restoration/Conversion
« Reply #58 on: June 10, 2009, 10:13:09 pm »
The disassembled control panel has been sitting on the chest freezer in the kitchen for a month now.  So I assembled it.

I still need new bolts to hold the CPO on, but the four I have on there right now will do to keep things together.

One thing I noted was that the holes in the CPO are very close to the original spacing, but just enough off that they're a bit cocked.  I'll have to make some minute adjustments and hopefully not kill it in the process.  The heads of the bolts are only so big.

I saw another project recently that had the buttons for a D2K replaced with other colors: white for the player buttons and yellow for jump.  I do believe I'm going to go that route.

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Re: Peale's Donkey Kong Restoration/Conversion
« Reply #59 on: June 10, 2009, 10:30:52 pm »
I waited for what seemed like forever for the CP bolts to arrive from that KLOV'r.  Since they were coming from .ca I knew it could be a while.

The envelope showed up last week.  JUST the envelope.  :(  It had been torn open.  Looks like on purpose. 

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Re: Peale's Donkey Kong Restoration/Conversion
« Reply #60 on: June 11, 2009, 09:17:05 am »
I waited for what seemed like forever for the CP bolts to arrive from that KLOV'r.  Since they were coming from .ca I knew it could be a while.

The envelope showed up last week.  JUST the envelope.  :(  It had been torn open.  Looks like on purpose. 


Customs.  They probably resealed it in some halfass way that didn't work.


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Re: Peale's Donkey Kong Restoration/Conversion
« Reply #61 on: June 11, 2009, 09:43:11 am »
Aren't they supposed to mark it in such a way?

And no, it was just an envelope (padded) no tape or anything on it.

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Re: Peale's Donkey Kong Restoration/Conversion
« Reply #62 on: June 11, 2009, 09:50:08 am »
Aren't they supposed to mark it in such a way?


They don't always.  Just a guess, though, could have been anyone in the line.  I know the USPS rips open stuff sent media mail but I think that is domestic only.

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Re: Peale's Donkey Kong Restoration/Conversion
« Reply #63 on: June 11, 2009, 10:02:21 am »
Weird.  This was sent via regular 1st class mail. 

Irks me a lot. 

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Re: Peale's Donkey Kong Restoration/Conversion
« Reply #64 on: June 11, 2009, 10:06:49 am »
Weird.  This was sent via regular 1st class mail. 

Irks me a lot. 

Has anyone messed with your mail in the past?  Maybe a neighbor who sees you get a lot of packages decided to see if this one had anything of value in it.

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Re: Peale's Donkey Kong Restoration/Conversion
« Reply #65 on: June 12, 2009, 11:45:23 am »
Peale - Where did you get the instruction card for the CP?  The one I ordered from Mike's is off (the bottom font is white and not red).  I can't find an exact match anywhere.  I even emailed Rich at ThisOldGame but I haven't heard back.

Thanks.

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Re: Peale's Donkey Kong Restoration/Conversion
« Reply #66 on: June 12, 2009, 04:18:00 pm »
Weird.  This was sent via regular 1st class mail. 

Irks me a lot. 

Has anyone messed with your mail in the past?  Maybe a neighbor who sees you get a lot of packages decided to see if this one had anything of value in it.

Nope, I've never had a problem. 

I'm guessing a sorter malfunction.  They usually tag them, though.

Peale - Where did you get the instruction card for the CP?  The one I ordered from Mike's is off (the bottom font is white and not red).  I can't find an exact match anywhere.  I even emailed Rich at ThisOldGame but I haven't heard back.

It's part of the D2K artwork package.

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Re: Peale's Donkey Kong Restoration/Conversion
« Reply #67 on: June 12, 2009, 04:50:53 pm »

Maybe the contents got sick of being in the envelope and bolted.

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Re: Peale's Donkey Kong Restoration/Conversion
« Reply #68 on: June 26, 2009, 09:33:48 am »
I need some info - someone recently posted a D2K project where they replaced the P1/P2 buttons with white, and the jump button with a mustard/gold kind of button.  Can anyone direct me to said project?  I wish I'd bookmarked it.  I did a search, but came up empty.

I found someone on KLOV that has NOS short buttons for cheap, but he said they're not the ones that go on a DK.  Is that because of length, or the overall size, or what?

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Re: Peale's Donkey Kong Restoration/Conversion
« Reply #69 on: June 26, 2009, 10:07:15 am »
I need some info - someone recently posted a D2K project where they replaced the P1/P2 buttons with white, and the jump button with a mustard/gold kind of button.  Can anyone direct me to said project?  I wish I'd bookmarked it.  I did a search, but came up empty.

I found someone on KLOV that has NOS short buttons for cheap, but he said they're not the ones that go on a DK.  Is that because of length, or the overall size, or what?

Is this it ?:
http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=49440&page=14

The size is different... You may be able to use a long white button but you would have to bore out your CP to 1 1/8" as the nintendo button size is a bit smaller...
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Re: Peale's Donkey Kong Restoration/Conversion
« Reply #70 on: June 26, 2009, 10:18:51 am »
That's the one!  Thanks.

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Re: Peale's Donkey Kong Restoration/Conversion
« Reply #71 on: June 26, 2009, 12:21:59 pm »
I was informed that he used a /short/ leaf button.  I think I'll need to clarify that since you said to use a /long/ one.

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Re: Peale's Donkey Kong Restoration/Conversion
« Reply #72 on: June 26, 2009, 12:31:28 pm »
I was informed that he used a /short/ leaf button.  I think I'll need to clarify that since you said to use a /long/ one.

My bad... you are correct... the Nintendo button holder does not take up too much space so it will work perfectly with a short button...

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« Reply #73 on: June 26, 2009, 12:32:20 pm »
Awesome.  I found a guy on KLOV that has the buttons for a buck each.  Score!

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Re: Peale's Donkey Kong Restoration/Conversion
« Reply #74 on: June 26, 2009, 01:35:42 pm »
Meh....get rid of those clickety microswitches and go leaf. It's ideal to do it on the Nintendo CP:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=62884.msg858916#msg858916

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Re: Peale's Donkey Kong Restoration/Conversion
« Reply #75 on: June 26, 2009, 01:55:05 pm »
No thank you.  I've got mine looking all purty-like.

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Re: Peale's Donkey Kong Restoration/Conversion
« Reply #76 on: June 26, 2009, 02:13:49 pm »
Meh....get rid of those clickety microswitches and go leaf. It's ideal to do it on the Nintendo CP:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=62884.msg858916#msg858916

You know... I normally am not a fan of micros... and as most games were leafs...  but there is something about the Nintendo feel... the stick and buttons are really "plinky"... they have a nice sort of kick to them that no other micro really has...   For my DK2 I actually was able to get some NOS switches and I replaced all of them and I really like it.
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Re: Peale's Donkey Kong Restoration/Conversion
« Reply #77 on: June 28, 2009, 08:55:52 am »
Awesome.  I found a guy on KLOV that has the buttons for a buck each.  Score!


I bought some - they're nice and clean.  Go with him.

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Re: Peale's Donkey Kong Restoration/Conversion
« Reply #78 on: August 01, 2009, 06:12:09 pm »
I was working on the door to my Galaxian today when I ran across the Donkey Kong door lying in a corner.  Figured I might as well work on that as well.  Stripped the remainder of the old paint with a 3" wire wheel.  Still need to work on the corners and a few stubborn pieces of paint, but it's all but stripped now.