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not so good news everybody!
« on: June 10, 2008, 06:12:56 am »


razzle-frazzle  :angry:

a-hole didnt leave a note, naturally...


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Re: not so good news everybody!
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2008, 07:48:24 am »
HOLY CRAP!  That is massive damage!!  Did you come out to find it in the morning?  Maybe a drunk driver?  It looks like it punched all the way through the sheet metal!

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« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2008, 07:52:31 am »


i ride my bike to work normally. found it like that when i came home. yeah, the clown can-opened it some. most likely a tray on a ute (pickup)


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« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2008, 10:21:50 am »
Well, I hope something good happens to you to balance everything out.  I once scratched someone's bumper with the tailpipe of a moving truck when I was backing up, and felt so bad about it that I literally had my police officer friend run the plate to find the guy's phone number.  I ended up paying him about $200 for the damage.  It amazes me that some people can be so careless and irresponsible. 

Is that a VW Type 3, by the way?  Cool car!

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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2008, 02:03:39 am »


thanks. yep, type 3 notchback. here it is in better days



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« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2008, 02:52:21 am »
Ow that sux.
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« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2008, 09:32:15 am »
That's a pisser.
There's  a certain freedom that comes with owning cars you don't care much about anymore.  I couldn't care less when one of our cars gets a new scratch or ding (although the wife still does)
I have to say though, that a dent that big would likely bother me.  Tough break.  Are you going to have it repaired?

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« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2008, 10:10:08 am »
Oh yeah, I just noticed the VW hubcaps.  Didn't see that before I asked.  I've always liked the T3 and the Karmann Ghia. 


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« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2008, 12:29:22 pm »
It looks like the dent could be popped out with little permanent damage, at least.  Do it yourself with a hair-dryer and a bottle of compressed air.  I've heard that dry ice works too.
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« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2008, 12:38:35 pm »
That only works for clean dents.
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« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2008, 01:16:51 pm »
That sucks, very nice classic car. That movie, is that even a metal part ? Looks/sounds like plastic to me.

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« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2008, 02:41:40 am »
It looks like the dent could be popped out with little permanent damage, at least.    I've heard that dry ice works too.

aint nothing popping my dent out! its bent, not dented. also, it now knows how the titanic felt. if you look closely there is a rip in it about 150mm or so long. looks like someone took an axe to it. which is what ill be doing to the perpetrators car if i could ever be sure who.

luckily the front fenders on a lot of the older cars bolt on. got a call back from a supplier. he has a slightly bent one for $75. ill wait for something better, since i want it to just go straight on. dont want to spend hours mucking around trying to straighten it. whats the point in replacing one bent panel for another?

what irks me the most is that my car looks quite nice (in my eyes anyway). now when i fix it the panel is going to be a different colour. the paint on my car is pretty screwy. wont be able to accurately colour match it.



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« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2008, 01:08:53 pm »
Do they make fiber glass fenders for it?

A set of them would be expensive but they'll make the car a lot lighter.

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« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2008, 01:17:51 pm »
Are VW parts as easy to come by there as they are here?  The biggest ---smurfette--- here would be matching the paint.

I love notchbacks BTW... very nice.

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« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2008, 07:55:58 pm »
That sucks, very nice classic car. That movie, is that even a metal part ? Looks/sounds like plastic to me.

you know those little tin metal toy ladybugs? the ones where theres a little strip of steel underneath. you hold it between two fingers and squueze and it makes a nice clicking sound? thats what they make cars from nowadays! my car is old enough that its made from actually steel  :o

Do they make fiber glass fenders for it?

A set of them would be expensive but they'll make the car a lot lighter.

i dont think so. they do for beetles. it would be one less thing to rust i suppose  ;D

Are VW parts as easy to come by there as they are here?  The biggest ---smurf--- here would be matching the paint.

I love notchbacks BTW... very nice.

I had a fastback when I was a teen.


yeah, i used to think the fastbacks looked better. but now i think the notches are cooler.

once i get a panel no doubt itll be bright green or something so ill try and get a colour thats not too far off the mark so it doesnt stand out. cops are predatory creatures, and anything out of the norm attracts their atttention. having said that, im off to the hardware stor today to buy a small tin of paint and a brush. the sign im going to paint on that panel will REALLY attract attention ;D


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« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2008, 09:43:51 pm »
you know those little tin metal toy ladybugs? the ones where theres a little strip of steel underneath. you hold it between two fingers and squueze and it makes a nice clicking sound? thats what they make cars from nowadays! my car is old enough that its made from actually steel  :o
Ehm they used to make the same argument for a Lada.

BTW a guy in my street has a similar red Volkswagen Karmann Ghia. Only his has a roof. He's a guy so that makes sense. Damn thing often wakes me up (the starting procedure is kinda loud)
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« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2008, 01:56:30 am »


this will make me feel a little better until i get another fender (",)


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« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2008, 03:02:53 am »


this will make me feel a little better until i get another fender (",)
Lol.  8)

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« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2008, 09:04:47 am »


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this will make me feel a little better until i get another fender (",)
Lol.  8)

I hope people won't think that the essay is directed to the owner of the car

That's what I would think.
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this will make me feel a little better until i get another fender (",)
Lol.  8)

I hope people won't think that the essay is directed to the owner of the car

That's what I would think.

Yeah, but you're ...  Canadian.

Why would someone other than the owner of the car complain about not leaving a note?
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this will make me feel a little better until i get another fender (",)
Lol.  8)

I hope people won't think that the essay is directed to the owner of the car

That's what I would think.

Yeah, but you're ...  Canadian.

Why would someone other than the owner of the car complain about not leaving a note?
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« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2008, 06:16:39 pm »

this will make me feel a little better until i get another fender (",)




Your essay disappoints me, danny.  I believe you CAN solve this, since there's a bit of room on the front section.  My disappointment?  The non-use of "Asshat".  Plus, on the front section, it really SHOULD have "Eff vandals, they stabbed a Master" on it.

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« Reply #23 on: June 19, 2008, 01:51:05 am »


this will make me feel a little better until i get another fender (",)
Lol.  8)

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« Reply #24 on: June 19, 2008, 01:52:49 am »

this will make me feel a little better until i get another fender (",)




Your essay disappoints me, danny.  I believe you CAN solve this, since there's a bit of room on the front section.  My disappointment?  The non-use of "Asshat".  Plus, on the front section, it really SHOULD have "Eff vandals, they stabbed a Master" on it.

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« Reply #25 on: June 19, 2008, 03:41:10 am »
Ha, that'll teach him  8)

BTW geez that's a bad hole. All the way through your armored metal.
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« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2008, 11:54:04 pm »

this will make me feel a little better until i get another fender (",)




Your essay disappoints me, danny.  I believe you CAN solve this, since there's a bit of room on the front section.  My disappointment?  The non-use of "Asshat".  Plus, on the front section, it really SHOULD have "Eff vandals, they stabbed a Master" on it.

I trust you'll see the wisdom in my words and will rectify this situation posthaste ;)

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« Reply #27 on: January 29, 2011, 07:41:31 pm »
A very big bump!

I finally picked up another panel to replace it with. It's yellow, and I was just going to brush on some grey primer so it wouldn't stand out so much, but got to researching. Found this site and I'm on a mission now (",)

http://www.rickwrench.com/index79master.htm?http://www.rickwrench.com/50dollarpaint.html

One of a number of ' 50 dollar paint job ' pages i've found on the net.

I'm doing the new panel first to see how that turns out, and if ok, the rst of the car. The paint is in a really bad way on the ol' boy.
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« Reply #28 on: January 29, 2011, 08:32:37 pm »
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« Reply #29 on: January 29, 2011, 09:00:42 pm »
Candy apple red with flames!

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« Reply #30 on: January 29, 2011, 10:31:03 pm »
Yes, I agree with Saint.
Candy apple red with flames would be very tuff.

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« Reply #31 on: January 31, 2011, 09:49:37 am »
I helped a friend repaint his car with spray cans of touch up paint once - wipe it down with paper towels and try to mask off the windows with loose newspaper style (this was college of course).

It took about 8 cans but we got good coverage.  I then waxed it a couple of times with tinted wax.  Sadly, it came out looking pretty darn good.  He drove it another couple of years and it held up remarkably well.  Now it sits without an engine at the back of his parents farm and storms boxes of christmas decorations....   :-\


In HS a friend of mine painted his crappy Mustang with some weird textured spray paint.  It was horrific.  Then it got worse when the paint started to chip off because he didn't prime it.  His car looked like it was covered with popcorn ceiling paint broken up by Ford Rust.

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« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2011, 04:58:14 am »
Well, I've done 4 coats now and I'm leaving it at that. bear in mind that I originally approached this with the mindset that I was going to hand brush some grey primer on this panel so it wouldn't stand out too much.

Pics are of the paint after wet rubbing the 3rd coat with 800 grit. Notice I didn't take back all the orange peel- I was worried I'd start to find the old paint. Since I had pretty much made up my mind I was stopping at four coats, it was a compromise I was willing to make. Next pic, 4th coat. Always hard to see in a picture, but the orange peel is about the same as you see on some new cars nowadays, and less than some back yard jobs i've seen. this is more than acceptable to me. note the effect is much closer to the classic sprayed orange peel than to rollered wall paint orange peel. The fuel filler well was painted with a trim brush.

What I'm a little annoyed about, but will learn to live with, is that I didn't 'melt' one section into another as smoothly as I thought. This is what the third pic is showing. It wouldn't be a concern at all if I was definitely going to cut and polish the paint. But in general I like the look of it as it is, so that line (there are two actually) may be annoying. Or maybe, it will become less noticeable over time. Enamel takes a long time to really harden, and I bet in doing so, it becomes just that much thinner...

All in all I'm very happy with how it's turning out. I won't be putting the panel on until later in the month, even though I'm now itching to do the whole car. On the 20th, I am taking The Master to a VW rally, as is  ;D Will give my 'fender essay' one last huzzah before it comes off...
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« Reply #33 on: February 01, 2011, 05:08:23 am »
Tools of the '$50 dollar paintjob' trade. The colour I'm using is called Machinery Grey (sorry Saint, they don't do candy apple, or flames). I will do the roof white if I decide to take the plunge and do the whole car. And I'm almost 100% sure I will. I'll leave the panel on for at least a few weeks and see how it holds up. But really, the only test that matters takes years. I'm not waiting that long  :D

The paint is White Knight Rust Guard. It's an Australian epoxy enamel. Equivalent in the US would be Rustoleum, or Tremclad in Canadia.

the secret is the rollers. High density foam. Pack of ten, throw them away after each session (the one you just used, not the whole lot  ;D). And thin the paint to a somewhat milky consistency. Don't paint out in the sun, it will dry too quickly to self-level. Wet rub between coats. And that's about it!
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« Reply #34 on: February 01, 2011, 10:20:32 am »
So you're not going to sand and buff this?  I think that's how the guy got such good results, no?
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« Reply #35 on: February 01, 2011, 05:07:09 pm »
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« Reply #36 on: February 01, 2011, 07:09:31 pm »
I like how you wrote "A-hole", then went for the full word "---smurfette---".
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Re: not so good news everybody!
« Reply #37 on: February 02, 2011, 02:20:19 am »
So you're not going to sand and buff this?  I think that's how the guy got such good results, no?

This is true. But it's looking good enough that I might just be lazy and leave it unpolished. It's the Galaga way (",)


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« Reply #38 on: February 02, 2011, 11:05:41 am »
So you're not going to sand and buff this?  I think that's how the guy got such good results, no?

This is true. But it's looking good enough that I might just be lazy and leave it unpolished. It's the Galaga way (",)

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« Reply #39 on: February 02, 2011, 02:44:29 pm »
I like how you wrote "A-hole", then went for the full word "---smurfette---".

Seems pretty normal to me.  At least in my parts (New England) ---smurfette--- is not so much of a swear than A-Hole.  Most radio stations don't even edit out ---smurfette---.  "A" without the hole is another story of course, that is about as prevalent as ---smurfette---...
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Re: not so good news everybody!
« Reply #40 on: March 02, 2011, 06:05:13 am »

What I've done so far

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Panel is going on this weekend (fingers crossed). At the same time, I'll paint the other front guard, the bonnet and a few little bits to make the whole front of the car painted. I won't do the whole thing in one go, too much work for me...


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Re: not so good news everybody!
« Reply #41 on: March 25, 2011, 07:01:17 am »

Geez, since I last posted, it rained every weekend  :angry:  But this weekend is shaping up to be perfect, so I've done a bit of prep work. As usual, I left things too late, and the panel came off just after sunset. I've also done a bit of the fiddly sanding around the windscreen. I was thinking I'd do all the sanding before tomorrow, but it gets a bit 'drummy' when you are hard at it and I don't want to annoy the neighbours. Anyway, it's well underway (",)


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Re: not so good news everybody!
« Reply #42 on: March 26, 2011, 10:25:26 pm »
OK, I've put on two coats on the front half of the car so far. I thought I was going to just scuff the old paint, but it was so soft from UV damage, I ended up sanding almost all of it to primer. The other picture is a trick I picked up on one of those 50 dollar paint job threads. If you aren't removing the glass, and the rubber is still flexible, run a thick piece of string (or is that thin piece of rope?) under the rubber so it holds it away from the metal. That way the paint can go a little UNDER the rubber, instead of over it. Although of course, I still ended up with some paint on the rubber  ;D  I used an old telephone extension cord.
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« Reply #43 on: March 26, 2011, 11:34:09 pm »
Neat trick. I never had much trouble getting the windshield out of my 73 super beetle, but not removing it at all would have been easier!

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« Reply #44 on: March 27, 2011, 01:03:53 am »
good on ya!! I was an automotive refinisher for a decade, and from what I see, you're doing a bang up job for working at home in your garage. The gasket trick is priceless, saves so much time, provides a superior paint job. Are you going to blend in, or paint the whole car?

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Re: not so good news everybody!
« Reply #45 on: March 27, 2011, 01:17:29 am »

drventure- I am loath to pull out the windows because at the moment they are well sealed and I wonder about how well they'll seal again. That leads to the other reason- it's a type 3, which are bloody hard to get any parts for!

vanillagorilla- there's no way I could make these two quite different colours blend together. I'm only doing the front half this time, because quite frankly, it's a lot of work for this little black duck! I'll do the rest in the coming weeks. When my fingerprints have grown back  ;D

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Re: not so good news everybody!
« Reply #46 on: April 09, 2011, 01:54:42 am »

Woa, oh! We're half way there...



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« Reply #47 on: April 09, 2011, 02:13:58 am »
Woo Hoo! Looks like your summer plans are made for ya! Cant wait to see the finished project! Maybe you could take me for a spin if I ever make it down under!

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« Reply #48 on: April 12, 2011, 01:49:38 pm »
I am so going to back into you again when you get this done. 
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« Reply #49 on: April 12, 2011, 02:56:22 pm »

Woa, oh! We're half way there...



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« Reply #50 on: April 13, 2011, 07:44:27 am »

Woa, oh! We're half way there...



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« Reply #51 on: November 13, 2011, 03:11:33 am »
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« Reply #52 on: November 16, 2011, 05:03:44 am »
Looking good Danny G!!

That trick with the string under the windshield rubber is priceless!
I would have never thought of that.

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« Reply #53 on: November 19, 2011, 10:33:29 pm »
Looking good Danny G!!

That trick with the string under the windshield rubber is priceless!
I would have never thought of that.

Yeah the string thing is handy. I picked that up from the original mopar thread I think.

Ok, so I'm done now. I really lost inertia and enthusiasm since early this year when I started. But it's over now. The painting isn't quite as neat as the front end, and it's slightly more orange-peely. But I know from seeing the front end many months after I painted it that the paint does harden into a smoother surface over time. It wouldn't matter at all if I was going to polish it, but I don't think the paint I used is as hard as Tremclad or Rustoleum. Also, I somehow got the dumb idea that I could do the whole car minus the roof with 1 litre. I pretty much used one litre for the front end, so I bought another litre for the rest months ago. But just to be sure I also picked up a half litre recently knowing I had a week off work. So I did three coats with the second 1 litre can, it was looking good. Very, very slightly lighter than the front end, which I attributed to just fading hardening of the old paint making it look different. I was getting low on that 1 litre can though and I knew that using the dregs would result in a streaky finish. So I did the fourth and final coat with the 1/2 litre can. COMPLETELY different tone! Argghhh. I toyed with the idea of painting one more coat on the front end, but you know I'm really over painting this car. And besides, to do that would be using the dregs of that 1/2 litre can! Could end up worse. It's hard to tell in the photos, but it is quite clear ini real life. Hopefully over time they'll kinda look the same. I'm already getting used to it. My neighbour said (in all seriousness) 'Why don't you paint some flowers or something on the front?' I said 'Or maybe some flames' He said 'Yeah, I suppose'. He doesn't get cars. Maybe he was thinking about beetles and hippies...

The lesson there I bring to you is DONT BE A MISER AND JUST BUY FOUR LITRES STRAIGHT UP!! Hehe. And actually, a four litre can would have been cheaper than 2 x 1 litres plus a 1/2 litre...
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« Reply #54 on: November 19, 2011, 10:43:40 pm »
Obviously I did the roof in white. Boy was that a ---smurfette--- to do! It's really hard to keep the flow going over a large area that is hard to reach over. I'm just glad I wasn't painting a 4WD. It's harder to cover with white so this took 6 coats. My technique on the roof only came good on the sixth coat. I realised I really need to add a splash of thinners into the paint after every second dip of the roller and also to use the trim brush only where I am about to roll. The previous coats I trimmed everything first which meant the paint was hardening already by the time the roller came into play. So it wasn't melting in. The front half of the car I did in cooler weather which helped slow the evaporation down.

Second pic kinda picks up the mismatch in colour. Third pic is of the numberplate light. You can't tell at all in the pic, but it was painted aluminium which was flaking off, so I just gave it the brushed aluminium look and sprayed it with a clear lacquer designed for that purpose.
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« Reply #55 on: November 20, 2011, 01:45:05 am »
Looking good, man, nice job.  That car would stand out as really old fashioned around here, but what the heck.




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They are selling fairly well here (and for heaps more than you guys are paying), it appeals to the inner Tonka Toy collector. The one in the photo is just like all the others- never ever actually gets dirty from off-road driving or anything. Just another useless SUV getting in my way...

My car stands out as old-fashioned here too. Which I like.


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« Reply #56 on: November 20, 2011, 10:18:55 pm »
Looks good.   I'm sure you'll be fine with the minor differences, just don't worry about it for a while and the perfectionist crazies in you will fade away.  Enjoy it, you did a great job.