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Re: what has mame come to?
« Reply #40 on: April 20, 2008, 11:51:18 am »
I think Haze might have meant a 2.0 GHz Pentium 4 since my desktop is an earlier generation P4 running at 3.06 GHz and Donkey Kong runs well above 100% on my system.
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Re: what has mame come to?
« Reply #41 on: April 20, 2008, 02:57:58 pm »
how much ram are you running in your cabinet?  I upped from 512 MB to 1GB and any sound stuttering issues virtually disappeared.. (similar system specs to yours P4 2.4, 6200 Geforce).

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Unfortunately Donkey Kong still isn't 100% even with the upgrade to 124u2... :(

i have 768 mb of ram.

I guess i'm just going to settle on using an older version of mame for that game. Also for the record I checked my cpu and it is actually a p4 2.4 not 2.0.

I've pretty much exhausted every possibility, nothing works. Interestingly DK Jr. works perfectly.

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Re: what has mame come to?
« Reply #42 on: April 20, 2008, 05:19:12 pm »
played a bit of donkey kong on my old centrino laptop the other night all worked fine... using the latest mame build...

Yea I do tend to update... new games are always nice.. but the fixes for the old games are just as equally welcomed to create a more arcade perfect experience.

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Re: what has mame come to?
« Reply #43 on: April 21, 2008, 02:28:37 am »

i guess you can have several builds of mame in a cab. one for most games and how ever many other emus for odd games that need a little something extra, or run better on an older build...


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Re: what has mame come to?
« Reply #44 on: April 21, 2008, 09:43:59 am »

i guess you can have several builds of mame in a cab. one for most games and how ever many other emus for odd games that need a little something extra, or run better on an older build...

That's not a bad idea either.  Many front ends are able to handle multiple different emulators so you could just set up certain versions for games that will run best on said version.
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Re: what has mame come to?
« Reply #45 on: April 21, 2008, 10:23:58 am »
That's not a bad idea either.  Many front ends are able to handle multiple different emulators so you could just set up certain versions for games that will run best on said version.

Yep...when I realised Buggy Boy is playable, I added Mame v0.123 just for that. I left my setup the same for all other games (v0.99) as I couldn't see much point updating everything.

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Re: what has mame come to?
« Reply #46 on: April 21, 2008, 07:16:58 pm »
The Donkey Kong driver has two different board models it emulates- the original RadarScope conversion (TKG-02) and the later 2-board set (TKG-04).  You can change which one is used in the "Driver Configuration" menu in MAME. 

This changes the color mixing resistors.  TKG-02 has more red-looking girders and TKG-04 has pink.

So they are both "right".  :)

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Re: what has mame come to?
« Reply #47 on: April 22, 2008, 12:05:11 pm »
Yeah but the Donkey Kong girders in older versions of Mame (.116) seem much more red than the girders in newer versions of Mame even when you just change the Driver Configuration to the setting you suggest.  So older versions of MAME are still wrong right? 

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Re: what has mame come to?
« Reply #48 on: April 22, 2008, 02:15:06 pm »
Yes.  So many people forget that the glass which goes over the screen in Donkey Kong is NOT 100% clear glass.  It is tinted in some manner which does alter our view of the game.  Hell, even the monitor CRT itself may have been tinted/discolored in some manner.  The only way to truly test it out is to get a working Donkey Kong cab, replace the board with a PC loaded with MAME, and see how it looks
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Re: what has mame come to?
« Reply #49 on: April 22, 2008, 03:58:35 pm »
.121 here and my XP1800+ runs DK perfectly fine as well.

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Re: what has mame come to?
« Reply #50 on: April 22, 2008, 04:33:46 pm »
Who cares about Donkey Kong? When the heck is Radiant Silvergun going to run at full speed?!?

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Re: what has mame come to?
« Reply #51 on: April 22, 2008, 05:28:42 pm »
Yeah but the Donkey Kong girders in older versions of Mame (.116) seem much more red than the girders in newer versions of Mame even when you just change the Driver Configuration to the setting you suggest.  So older versions of MAME are still wrong right? 

Too many factors involved.  The original colors in MAME where just guesses, as most were.  Recently, some devs have started actually computing the colors with the PAL/GAL code and the actual mixing resistors on the board.

Of course, this calculation stops being "accurate" at your VGA card and monitor.  Every one is different, so who knows how yours is adjusted compared to that machine in the pizza parlor when you were a kid?   :)

I have a PC with video out connected to a 20" TV via S-Video and the colors and saturation are much different than my LCD.  I've lost the time to be concerned over such things.

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Re: what has mame come to?
« Reply #52 on: April 22, 2008, 09:02:09 pm »
Yeah, I'm not concerned about it either, I just find it interesting.  I thought you were saying originally that the old Mame Donkey Kong had the same color pallatte as the New Mame Donkey Kong when you switch to the other driver configuration which I didn't find when checking it out.

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Re: what has mame come to?
« Reply #53 on: April 22, 2008, 11:43:36 pm »
Hell, when you think about the fact that we can even PLAY these games that we admired while growin up, I just marvel at the fact that we're complaining about something as petty as the girder colors!

MAME is truly amazing and I'm just thankful that we even have it.  All the games I cherished as a kid are now playable, and I'm building my own cabinet to try and relive that experience.  I'll never fully relive it since it's impossible, but I can get as close as possible. 

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Re: what has mame come to?
« Reply #54 on: April 23, 2008, 12:55:09 pm »
Radient Silvergun is full speed with great sound right now on my system (E6600 Core 2 Duo OC'd to 3.12 GHz, 4 GB RAM, 64-bit Linux, 64-bit SDLMAME).  The "Core 2 Duo at >= 3 GHz" is the important part though, so don't sweat the rest if you're a Win-weenie ;-)

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Re: what has mame come to?
« Reply #55 on: April 28, 2008, 11:48:34 pm »
the sound blows in any game from the 90's.  I have up to date roms and everything.  I have messed with so many settings, but I just can't figure it out.