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Getting past coin door locks
« on: April 03, 2008, 12:06:26 pm »
Anybody know any tricks for geting past coin door locks without drilling?
Recntly, I got a machine (through legitimate means!) that the owner did not have the keys for,
though it is set on free play.  The thing is, It sounds like theres about 70$ in quarters in this thing when I  picked it up!  Also I would like to be able to access the front test switch and volume knob without having to drill out the existing locks-  can you guys make any suggestions?  Thanks in advance!



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Re: Getting past coin door locks
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2008, 12:08:07 pm »
Anybody know any tricks for geting past coin door locks without drilling?
Recntly, I got a machine (through legitimate means!) that the owner did not have the keys for,
though it is set on free play.  The thing is, It sounds like theres about 70$ in quarters in this thing when I  picked it up!  Also I would like to be able to access the front test switch and volume knob without having to drill out the existing locks-  can you guys make any suggestions?  Thanks in advance!

Most are pretty easy to pick... takes a bit of time but I've done it several times with a paper clip.
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Re: Getting past coin door locks
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2008, 12:12:36 pm »
WTF youre kidding right?  Thats not something you can teach huih?   ;D



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Re: Getting past coin door locks
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2008, 12:14:44 pm »
If you can get in the back, you could climb through and unscrew the latch and loosen the bolt holding on the lock, and remove it that way.  If you do end up having to drill, you'd only have to do the back one to get to the coin door one.

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Re: Getting past coin door locks
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2008, 12:52:14 pm »
if its a flat key lock then ram in a flat blade srewdriver and use some grips to twist it

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Re: Getting past coin door locks
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2008, 01:39:32 pm »
Single bitted locks are pretty easy to pick.  Double not so much.  Tube, forget about it.

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Re: Getting past coin door locks
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2008, 01:57:41 pm »
I got a machine (through legitimate means!)

Could you expound on why "through legitimate means" was necessary?
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Re: Getting past coin door locks
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2008, 02:09:18 pm »
If you can get in the back, you could climb through and unscrew the latch and loosen the bolt holding on the lock, and remove it that way.  If you do end up having to drill, you'd only have to do the back one to get to the coin door one.

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You make it sound like hes breaking into a building via the air ducts (climbing and all).

I got a machine (through legitimate means!)

Could you expound on why "through legitimate means" was necessary?

He's trying to trick you.  He most likely doesnt want us thinking he means to break into cabs in an establishment.
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Re: Getting past coin door locks
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2008, 02:54:23 pm »
Ah, didn't make the connection.

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Re: Getting past coin door locks
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2008, 03:09:51 pm »
What kind of cab is it?

With many cabs you can take off the marquee, reach to the back, and unscrew the bolt to the lock to the back door. From there you'll be inside and can reach forward and unscrew the lock to the coin door and you should be just fine and dandy.
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Re: Getting past coin door locks
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2008, 06:14:45 pm »
Name of machine and picture please. Some dedicated machines had keyed alike back door locks.

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Re: Getting past coin door locks
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2008, 10:24:44 pm »
Depending on how original you want to keep the cab original, I would just suggest drilling out the locks and replacing them with standard locks from Home Depot.  When I was restoring the cheap coin door I got off of E-Bay, it had one lock but no key.  So I just removed the locks and replaced them with new ones from Home Depot with matching keys.  Can't tell a difference between the new locks and the old ones.  (Aside from the old ones looking like ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---).
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Re: Getting past coin door locks
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2008, 10:40:44 am »
I got a machine (through legitimate means!)

Could you expound on why "through legitimate means" was necessary?
:laugh2:,  It's just that posting a thread titled 'how to get past locks' might make people edgy!  I actually traded an OutRun upright for this machine, and the guy I got it from no longer had the keys to the doors.  The back door is just held on with screws, so I can reach the locks, but I was kinda wondering how to get into the coin catch, because I cannot access that lock from behind, only the coin door lock.  Funny thing was, after putting his new machine in place, I handed him the original owner's manual for it, and he said 'Wow! what a gift!  I never had the manual for this machine!'  Then later, I opened the back door and the original owner's manual for Cyberball was laying right there... :dizzy:  So, I almost thought the keys would be zip-tied to something back there  :laugh2:

Name of machine and picture please. Some dedicated machines had keyed alike back door locks.

Hey Ken!  It is a Cyberball 2072 2-player upright.  I dont have a picture of it here at the office, so here is a link to a video of the actual machine.  You cant see the locks too well, but you can get a gist of what kind of cab it is.



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Re: Getting past coin door locks
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2008, 11:21:19 am »
Depending on how original you want to keep the cab original, I would just suggest drilling out the locks and replacing them with standard locks from Home Depot.  When I was restoring the cheap coin door I got off of E-Bay, it had one lock but no key.  So I just removed the locks and replaced them with new ones from Home Depot with matching keys.  Can't tell a difference between the new locks and the old ones.  (Aside from the old ones looking like ---Cleveland steamer---).

Jdurg, I was in a Home Depot the other day, but I didnt see any locks like this...maybe I'm in the wrong aisle?



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Re: Getting past coin door locks
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2008, 11:36:45 am »
Dude, just drill the locks. If you have a good drill bit, a single bit lock will take 20 seconds. A tubular lock will take a minute or two.

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Re: Getting past coin door locks
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2008, 12:32:50 pm »
Atari used cheapo "Hudson" locks on the back door. They were those cheap aluminum keys (single sided). Very easy to drill out and replace with something better.

Over/under doors are held in place by 5/16" hex head screws and clips. If you get the back door off the machine then you can reach through with a 5/16" nutdriver and take the screws/clips off and the whole door will come off the machine. Then you can get to both the locks to disassemble them.

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Re: Getting past coin door locks
« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2008, 01:51:29 pm »
That light will make things show up much better.
... Except for images on the monitor. Light = bad when it comes to showing visuals on a monitor.

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Re: Getting past coin door locks
« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2008, 10:32:24 am »
Of course, each cab is different, but I had a similar situation when I got my gutted cab (which turned out to be a former Robotron cab). The back door was just screwed on, but the 2 front doors (coin door, and coin box door) were locked. I reached in from the back and just unscrewed the one on the coin door. The coin box door was a little tricker, as it had a box bolted over it from the inside. Once I removed the bolts and the box, then I could get to the lock. I may put new locks on them sometime, but for now, I just close them when I don't need to access anything inside.

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Re: Getting past coin door locks
« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2008, 10:56:14 am »
Depending on how original you want to keep the cab original, I would just suggest drilling out the locks and replacing them with standard locks from Home Depot.  When I was restoring the cheap coin door I got off of E-Bay, it had one lock but no key.  So I just removed the locks and replaced them with new ones from Home Depot with matching keys.  Can't tell a difference between the new locks and the old ones.  (Aside from the old ones looking like ---Cleveland steamer---).

Jdurg, I was in a Home Depot the other day, but I didnt see any locks like this...maybe I'm in the wrong aisle?


In the HD by me they were in the aisle with the mailbox hardware.  They were hanging up on the wall in their packaging.
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