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Author Topic: Then you're not a man, are you?  (Read 1845 times)

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Then you're not a man, are you?
« on: March 26, 2008, 12:18:16 pm »
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=67684

Kept your woman parts?  Then you're a woman.

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Re: Then you're not a man, are you?
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2008, 12:19:54 pm »
Uh...I think he knows this. Yes. Female (genetically), who identifies as male (psychologically/socially/legally), in the process of changing to male (physically) .
This story is going to blow people's minds. Can't wait.

Everyone should try reading the actual article written by the person in question, at the Advocate:
http://advocate.com/issue_story_ektid52664.asp

Most news stories are just glossing over the details of this couple's decisions and sensationalizing the gender identity bit. Not surprising though.
« Last Edit: March 26, 2008, 12:26:23 pm by mr.Curmudgeon »

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Re: Then you're not a man, are you?
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2008, 12:46:23 pm »
So... he/she/it has a mangina?   ???

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Re: Then you're not a man, are you?
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2008, 01:04:29 pm »
Sounds like it.

"Sterilization is not a requirement for sex reassignment, so I decided to have chest reconstruction and testosterone therapy but kept my reproductive rights."

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Re: Then you're not a man, are you?
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2008, 03:40:18 am »
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Kept your woman parts?  Then you're a woman.


I would suggest being a tad bit more open minded towards people who do not fit into what you see as "normal". Human beings arent defined by what parts they have attached to their bodies... Just ask Stephen Hawkins, he is mostly a mind without much use of a body right now.
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Re: Then you're not a man, are you?
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2008, 08:58:54 am »
I would suggest being a tad bit more open minded towards people who do not fit into what you see as "normal".


Why?  I suggest he become a tad bit more indifferent. 

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Re: Then you're not a man, are you?
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2008, 09:17:44 am »
... the first thing anyone asked her was "pre op or post op?". 

That takes some balls.  I wish people would learn how to mind their own ---smurfing--- business.


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Re: Then you're not a man, are you?
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2008, 09:30:34 am »
That takes some balls.  I wish people would learn how to mind their own ---smurfing--- business.


What Jim described is a person who is putting their business out there on a stick and dangling it in front of everyone they meet.  They want to get noticed so they can become offended and make a scene.  The whole thing is a nice little no-win cycle for everyone around them.  If you don't say anything they up the volume - if you say something they have a little meltdown.  They're not exactly psychologically stable people.

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Re: Then you're not a man, are you?
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2008, 10:48:39 am »
What Jim described is a person who is putting their business out there on a stick and dangling it in front of everyone they meet.  They want to get noticed so they can become offended and make a scene.  The whole thing is a nice little no-win cycle for everyone around them.  If you don't say anything they up the volume - if you say something they have a little meltdown.  They're not exactly psychologically stable people.

When a man with boobs, a missing tooth, and a tattoo of an anchor comes out of the women's restroom with a cigarette in her mouth, I think everyone in the room is entitled to ask (once).   :laugh2:


Well, I certainly see your points but I'd do my best to stay the Hell out of it. 

My stance on this subject stems from (in a round-about way) the fact that my one-year-old daughter has a red-colored birthmark underneath her left eye.  I constantly have complete strangers asking me "what happened to her eye" or "your baby has something on her eye".  It's not a huge deal but I wonder, why do they care?  People are just too damn nosey, IMO.

Sometimes I tell them that she got into a fight with another baby.  ;)

At any rate, Jim, got any pics of this hottie you used to work with?  ;D






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Re: Then you're not a man, are you?
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2008, 11:17:24 am »
I think people are entitled to their curiosity (it's what makes us human), and I don't see it as a big deal if people stare (as long as it's not to point out and make fun of the subject). I, myself, like to get my eyeful of the abnormal, or extraordinary. It's enlightening, at times. I think it's all part of the mystery of life, and the majesty of nature. (Fyi, I'm just talking about quick, stolen glances, since outright staring would make anyone uncomfortable).

I'd certainly have to question a dude's level of common sense, if he's born a beefed-up sailor guy who needs to identify as female, and he's annoyed at people for being uneasy or confused. It's just part of the game.

And I agree with what PBJ said though, I wouldn't wish gender-confusion on anyone...it can't be easy, being ostracized from both sexes, and it's certainly not cheap, if they feel committed enough to reassign their gender.

That said, so far, I think people around here, and around the water cooler...are handling this news story with a lot less alarm than I would have expected. Maybe times really are a'changing (for the better)?
« Last Edit: March 27, 2008, 11:19:36 am by mr.Curmudgeon »

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Re: Then you're not a man, are you?
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2008, 11:47:47 am »
Spare your daughter a childhood full of embarrassment and get that birth mark zapped as quickly as possible.  I knew a girl that looked like she always had a black eye.  Two sessions under the laser and that thing was history.

It's what is known as a hemangioma and will slowly fade and finally disappear by the time she's four or five.

Had it been a port wine stain she would have undergone laser treatments at six months.

EDIT - I thought I should make this clear that we've seen quite a few doctors regarding her condition.  When your baby has something on her face that looks like it shouldn't be there, you research the ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- out of it and talk to a lot of physicians.  I do appreciate the concern but BYOAC is not where I get my medical advice.  ;)   :cheers:
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Re: Then you're not a man, are you?
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2008, 12:21:50 pm »
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=67684

Kept your woman parts?  Then you're a woman.

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Re: Then you're not a man, are you?
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2008, 02:53:21 pm »
When a man with boobs, a missing tooth, and a tattoo of an anchor comes out of the women's restroom with a cigarette in her mouth, I think everyone in the room is entitled to ask (once).   :laugh2: