force feedback on light gun ?

[vertygo]

Anyone ever thought about how to had force feedback to an existing light gun ? Was just at a bowling alley playing Time Crisis and House of the Dead and some others, and the games with FF in the guns were way more fun. I have Police Trainer, and I'd love to open up the guns and add 'something' to do some feedback.

[northerngames]

LCD topgun is the only pc gun that has the recoil and the only LG gun I know of that the hammer slide's back and forth like a real one would but that effect needs a A/C power adapter.

it also looks good and feels good but the flaw is it only works from 4-6 feet away from the screen.

if they figure out how to make them work at close range like a act-labs gun more then likely they would crush all other competetors.

[Tahnok]

Depending on how much you want to spend, there are solutions out there. You can either piece something together yourself, or you can use the Happs kit:

http://www.happcontrols.com/amusement/optical/951142rbkit.htm

I've not used either method, so I can't comment on them.

[northerngames]

Hey does this saturn gun work on the pc or did you just stick the act labs guts in it or something.

if it works on a pc I would like to try one out myself 

[Fozzy The Bear]

LCD topgun is the only pc gun that has the recoil and the only LG gun I know of that the hammer slide's back and forth like a real one would but that effect needs a A/C power adapter.

it also looks good and feels good but the flaw is it only works from 4-6 feet away from the screen.

The recoil on the LCD Topgun does not require an external AC adapter.... It runs off the USB Power. Subject to it being the only device that you're powering from the USB Bus. Mine works fine in that mode. Some motherboards do have problems with it though.

There is an option to add external power for the recoil and there is a socket on the bottom of the gun to do that. The other option for it is to add a powered USB hub and run it from that. many people have had sucess running them that way.

As for the distance from screen problem. This is mostly due to the camera lens in the gun. I am still working on a lens adapter solution for this.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

[vertygo]

Depending on how much you want to spend, there are solutions out there. You can either piece something together yourself, or you can use the Happs kit:

http://www.happcontrols.com/amusement/optical/951142rbkit.htm

I've not used either method, so I can't comment on them.

Heh, way more than i wanted to spend, but good to know they exist. I was hoping for just the solenoid kit.

[northerngames]

LCD topgun is the only pc gun that has the recoil and the only LG gun I know of that the hammer slide's back and forth like a real one would but that effect needs a A/C power adapter.

it also looks good and feels good but the flaw is it only works from 4-6 feet away from the screen.

The recoil on the LCD Topgun does not require an external AC adapter.... It runs off the USB Power. Subject to it being the only device that you're powering from the USB Bus. Mine works fine in that mode. Some motherboards do have problems with it though.

There is an option to add external power for the recoil and there is a socket on the bottom of the gun to do that. The other option for it is to add a powered USB hub and run it from that. many people have had sucess running them that way.

maybe I seen that the extra power adapter was needed for a 2 player setup?

 

[vertygo]

Find 5VDC somewhere on that gun (should be readily available since it's USB?)

Nope, it's actual arcade.. but the same theory applies. I like the idea of the xbox controller tho, definitely someplace to start, thanks!

[u_rebelscum]

The nice thing with the happs arcade recoil kit (and the PC LCD gun) is that they recoil only when shot while pointing at the screen.  Hacking in to recoil every time the trigger is pulled is easy and cheaper, but recoil when offscreen reload feels weird.  My two cents.

[tba]

i have 2 guncon2s that both have recoil, one even has a laser sight on it... i love the kickback when playing house of the dead, but after 10 min or so you hands start going numb!

anyways that is another option if you know your way around a computer and don't mind a TON of tweaking to get a "half decent" solution. my guns are a bit jittery and work fairly well except in the blackest of areas on the screen!