anyone else want xbox or ps2 on their mamewah?

[mud409]

I've been craving ps2 and xbox on mamewah for a minute now. I've asked so many and majority say it's not possible but I'm convinced it's completely possible.

On xboxes I used to execute games over ftp.
the idea is to setup individual bats for each game that connect through ftp and execute the specific game you want to load.
After you execute it you lose connection the game loads on your xbox. just have mamewah load a window projecting the svideo in connection of the xbox.... controls wont be an issue since you can strip the xbox dashboard so no button presses will affect the xbox until the game is loaded.

I'm no scripter so that's why I'm here begging you guys for help. any suggestions are appreciated.

[Cakemeister]

Are you talking about executing a script which will load an arbitrary game to your Xbox over FTP? These games can be hundreds of megabytes. Even over a fast ethernet connection it will take a long time to load the game in question. You would also need a modded xbox than can run games from memory instead of from the removable media, and that can take commands remotely.

So, while it would not be impossible, it sure would not be practical.

For a PS/2, I would say that it is impossible because IIRC PS2s don't have ethernet connections.

In the future there may be a PS2 emulator that can run full speed. Such an emulator does not exist now.

If you want to run a frontend on your PS/2 as a homebrew application, maybe you can do that, but you would have to run Wah!Cade instead of Mamewah, because PS/2 homebrew runs Linux and Mamewah is Windows-only. Homebrew PS/2 is probably beyond your skill level, no offense intended.

[SGT]

I thought he was referring to games that were already on the XBOX hard drive.  Was assuming he was FTPing in just to issue an execute command.  Maybe not...

[mud409]

I'm not trying to stream the game, I just want to trigger the execution of it from a remote pc... guess I should have made that more clear... the game is already loaded on the harddrive of the xbox, I just want a bat file that'll ftp the xbox and say execute this directories default.xbe...

it's pretty simple if you're into scripting I'd say... there's lots of ftp scripts on google but none that execute.

[mud409]

shouldn't this be as easy as a bat file with this in it

ftp -s:xboxexec xboxipaddress

and then xboxexec is a file that has this in it...

xboxusername
xboxpassword
cd f:\games\gamedir\
execute default.xbe

[SGT]

Did that not work?

[mud409]

nah I've got it working all up till the exec... apparently execute isn't the right command. I KNOW I've executed these using flash fxp just not sure if I've ever used command line before

[SGT]

cd f:\games\gamedir\

Are you not getting an error after this?  Its been years, but I didn't remember being able to specify a drive letter with the cd command under FTP (at least not with a colon like you do in DOS).  Instead of CDing have you tried to just specify the path in the execute command:

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execute f:\games\gamedir\default.xbe
or is it:

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execute \F\games\gamedir\default.xbe
Its been a long time, but it seems like the syntax with the drive letter isn't the same in FTP as it is in DOS.  Of course if the gamedir or the game has spaces, its going to need quotes.

[mud409]

I can get everything up until the execute...

the script now is
xbox
xbox
execute f:\games\DEAD OR ALIVE U\default.xbe

the error is

230 User xbox logged in , proceed.
ftp> execute f:\games\DEAD OR ALIVE U\default.xbe
Invalid command.
ftp>

with flash fxp the way you execute a game on evox would be to go to raw commands and type execute f:\games\DEAD OR ALIVE U\default.xbe

[SGT]

Well its pretty obvious that I'm shooting in the dark, but since your folder name has spaces, I would try to put quotes around part of it.

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execute "f:\games\DEAD OR ALIVE U\default.xbe"
Just to humor me, you could try:

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execute "\F\games\DEAD OR ALIVE U\default.xbe"

[mud409]

invalid command, tried it with quotes and without

[SGT]

Well crap.

[SGT]

Have you seen the last post here:

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=311572

It talks about "SITE EXEC" and doesn't use the colon like I was talking about:

entering it as you have, i find that it does indeed work. the problem here is that NOWHERE ELSE does unleashx refer to drives as F:/ or G:/ but rather /F/ or /G/, which makes setting this up as a custom command in FlashFXP a bit difficult. if you're not familiar with it, FlashFXP (and other FTP programs i'm sure) can add commands to the right-click context menu. if you set one up with the command "SITE EXEC %p%f", when you rick click an XBE and select that command it will perform "SITE EXEC /F/Apps/XBMC/default.xbe" or whatever the file you selected is. however, with the FTP server itself using different directory syntax than the EXEC command it makes this hard to do.

thanks however for finding a temporary workaround - i've just setup commands for the xbe's that i launch most frequently and type the rest in by hand. ugly, but workable for the time being

[mud409]

ok figured out the solution...

xboxusername
xboxpassword
quote
site runxbe f:\games\gamedirectory\default.xbe

this is for loading from xbmc for evox it'd be execute instead of site runxbe.

[Turnarcades]

My question is why are you bothering?

If it's all not hooked up to your arcade cabinet and you don't have controls interfaced to play the games (especially the analogs required for most games), what is the point in this?

Surely this would be like having a switch to boil your kettle in your living room - yes you could set it to boil without moving, but you still gotta go in the kitchen to make your coffee!

[mud409]

you're just assuming I wont have the xbox in the cabinet or controls hooked up to the xbox.. any fighting game on the xbox uses the d-pad and that's all I really want from the xbox. and I'm pretty sure there's an arcade controller out there for the original xbox that can switch between d-pad and analog. I need to do something with these xboxs just sitting around as well...

I guess I never explained the whole thing.

The idea is to have a PC and xbox (eventually multiple xboxs) inside a cabinet all running off of one dashboard, on one screen, and one set of controls. svideo into pc from xbox on PCI videocard (also being used to clear the motherboards boot screens) and usb in for anything extra. Then output is to a regular 15khz arcade monitor on arcadevga. j or i pac for pc controls and then I'm sure I have enough random xbox crap sitting around that I can piece together some controls for it.


The PC dashboard is why I came here... Mamewah will have a menu of xbox games setup with a folder of those bat's that will trigger the xbox to load the game and then a macro will load the window containing the svideo in from the xbox. Then to turn the game off and go back to mamewah there's a reboot function in xbmc that you can access through raw quotes and I really shouldn't need to explain the process for the rest here, because I'm looking to get it explained
No scripting needed for the controls because you just strip the menu of the xbox dashboard so any key presses are nonfunct. only way to load the game or a functional xbox dashboard is through ftp. I'm rather sure this wont be an issue for mamewah either.

The problem we're having now is loading a directory of bats into mamewah, we can get individual rom names to load e.g. gamename.bat but when we try the generic  ones like [romname].bat it wont work... any ideas?

I'm not really familear with mamewah but the guy I'm working on the project with is. He said he ran into this problem before with another emulator he setup on mamewah but can't remember how it was fixed... I'll have him post this problem more specific.

[Turnarcades]

That does make things a bit clearer.

However, this seems like a lot of software messing just to add a console to your system. I have built several machines with PC/console functionality for myself and for customers, as the intended point was the same as you: To play some arcade-stylee games with arcade controls. Some notable titles for me were The Tekken games, Soul Edge, Toshinden etc. and a few others back on PS1 (when analogue controls weren't that common).

What I do instead is to either use a CRT monitor and a VGA Box to connect the console to the display, then hack a couple of cheap joypads and solder them to the microswitches on my arcade controls. Alternatively, I use a decent quality old TV and plug the console into the SCART socket and the PC into the S-video port.

I understand your desire to get an 'all-in-one' menu system, but hooking your X-Box direct to your PC and then into the TV and using networking access seems like a lot of trouble just to get that effect.

[SGT]

Can you not use U360s with the XBOX to have the analog capability?  The "trouble" of using network access seems miniscule once you know the FTP commands.  I mean both machines are already ethernet capable.  An ethernet switch isn't necessary with a crossover cable.  I guess I just don't see that its a ton of work to achieve the desired result.

[mud409]

Bah, no CRT monitor, this cab has had 3, all of them have died (even with case off and back of the cabient off). TV is crappy. Arcade monitor all the way. Even if it does look shittier on xbox games, xbox games aren't the top priority of this cabinet. If I did anything TV/Monitor wise I'd go HD LCD so I could cut the weight of the cabinet down and have more space in it...

I've done the whole vga box into arcade monitor before using megalo 410's. it's nice but it can't run multiple units on 1 screen with out a switch.

The PC that's going into the cabinet already has a PCI card in it that's going to be used to disable the motherboards boot screens and has svideo in for the xbox. It should be able to display this svideo in through the arcadevga card no problem... if not there's usb svideo conversions that I'm sure will work...

I'm sure I have some perfect xbox or ps2 generic controllers sitting around here that I can splice into for controls.

Regaurdless of the integration to mamewah I'm putting the xbox on the cabinet, and if I can integrate it into mamewah why the hell not?