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ChadTower:

--- Quote from: shmokes on January 25, 2008, 02:11:50 pm ---But they're a helluva a lot more than that too.  When individual trees are rendered, you get a golf game that PLAYS better than when they're just some two dimensional ghost trees that the ball will pass straight through.  A football game with three dimensional models that have actual arms and legs that obey the laws of physics plays better than one where the players are actually just rectangles with functionless arms that are painted there for your viewing pleasure. 

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You're presuming to speak for everyone again.  I don't want a gaming experience that lifelike.  If I want golfing that realistic and immersive I'll go to a golf course.  If I want a perfect football experience I'll grab my sons and go outside.  I don't want nor do I need that experience from a game console.  I actually avoid games like that - they have no appeal to me.
knave:
Graphics can be an important part of a game that already have a good playable concept. A fun game can be made more enjoyable by a certain level of graphical sophistication. It's realism that is not necessary.  The best games have graphics that fit the playstyle and enhance the experience.  Pac man is great for what it is, Better graphics would not improve it. Some games are more fun when you can distinguish details or when the graphics enable different features such as hit locations in a shooter.

In the end if a game has fun and engaging gameplay the graphics matter less, but they still must be up to supporting the gameplay.



Dartful Dodger:

--- Quote from: ChadTower on January 25, 2008, 02:18:18 pm ---If I want a perfect football experience I'll grab my sons and go outside.

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Playing against 5 year olds is a perfect football experience for someone with football skills of a 5 year old.

Better graphics = more of a challenge = better game play

Like shmokes said.  A game with 3d is more challenging than a 2d game.  A 3d game with realistic sun glares and rain, is more challenging than one without.

Better graphics result in more options in a game.
AtomSmasher:

--- Quote from: Dartful Dodger on January 25, 2008, 04:20:07 pm ---Better graphics = more of a challenge = better game play

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Umm...what?

If you had just said better graphics = better game play, then I could of at least understood your point of view, but better graphics = more of a challenge, just doesn't hold true.

I recommend you download the game I Wanna Be The Guy just to see how challenging a game with nes style graphics can be.
Dartful Dodger:

--- Quote from: AtomSmasher on January 25, 2008, 04:43:34 pm ---I recommend you download the game I Wanna Be The Guy just to see how challenging a game with nes style graphics can be.

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...add targets that move on the Z axis. That would be even more challenging.

An even more challenging game would be a text based game where you have to guess a number between 0 and 1,000,000,000

That game could be even more challenging if there were a 1,000,000,000 boxes floating around a 3d environment and you had one chance to shoot the right one.  Add shadows and lighting effects...

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