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| shmokes:
Is anybody still operating under the assumption that the PS3 is going to flop? In spite of Nintendo's impressive success, I still think that the PS3 will very likely end up outselling the Wii (though I wouldn't be surprised if the Wii is always more profitable). But things are looking really bright for Sony right now, IMO. Mario, Zelda and Metroid are out, as are Halo, Bioshock, Gears of War and Mass Effect. That means that those companies have already put down their ace cards. Sony, on the other hand, still has Metal Gear Solid 4, Killzone 2, God of War 3, LittleBigPlanet, Final Fantasy XIII and Playstation Home coming up. And, with the recent pricedrop, the machine is finally selling in respectable numbers. I predict that Sony will even things up with Microsoft by the end of 2008, just as Nintendo has already done. If Sony manages to surpass Nintendo, however, it probably won't happen until at least 2009, maybe 2010. But by that time, Sony will have left Microsoft well behind I think. |
| SavannahLion:
At this point in the game GoW3 would be the only reason I would consider even purchasing a PS3. The price drop is good. The feature loss and the multiple pricing tiers is not. Did you read Gabe's article about Unreal on the PS3 the other day?. He smacked the problem right on the nail when he wrote (my emphasis): --- Quote ---Remember: if you want to use mods on your PS3, it's easy! Just install Linux on your music player. Look, I'm sorry if your scenario is so tangled that you can't even express it yourself in interviews. What type of external storage you need to use isn't even my concern, so the ability to use Jump Drives doesn't speak to the issue. The fact of the matter is that you can't play mods without additional hardware, or media, or both. Period. The problem is simply more substantial on some models than others. The reality is that there are still many people surprised to learn the actual parameters of your product's much-touted mod support. And yeah, I know about Mutators. I doubt very seriously that Mutators are what comes to mind when people think about "mods." You don't want the liability, and you don't want to host, you don't want to moderate, and Sony's "Open Platform" is apparently only semipermeable, so owners of the more costly Playstation 3 version get a diminished experience. --- End quote --- I believe I must be misinterpreting this. So not only does one have to worry about which PS3 version to get, consumers have to worry that getting the most expensive version will actually be a less fulfilling experience than the cheap model? This is a HUGE difference from the 360 lineup where getting the more expensive model will get you a (more or less) more fulfilling product and it's nothing like previous models like the PS2 vs the Slimline where a very clear feature loss is incurred. I find that Sony PS3 marketing model is borderline ethical when consumers need to use a feature table to figure what model to purchase :dizzy: |
| versapak:
Trying to justify a PS3 purchase? :P As long as the price keeps falling I have no doubt Sony will at least do ok with the PS3. As it is though... Even the titles you mention won't really be drawing me to the PS3 at its current price point. Though it certainly has reached a much more attractive price already, it just isn't attractive enough being that I already have 2 Xbox 360's. |
| shmokes:
Not justify. Not necessary. Seeing as I don't already have a 360, I'd buy a PS3 today given the disposable income. Unfortunately I don't have extra money these days. PS3 is probably a 2009 purchase for me. I'm just interpreting writing on the wall. I could be wrong, but I doubt it. Sony will pass MS in worldwide sales, and probably even in North American sales. |
| DaveMMR:
--- Quote from: shmokes on December 29, 2007, 09:47:16 am ---Is anybody still operating under the assumption that the PS3 is going to flop? In spite of Nintendo's impressive success, I still think that the PS3 will very likely end up outselling the Wii (though I wouldn't be surprised if the Wii is always more profitable). --- End quote --- Don't be surprised. Even if Nintendo were to sell exactly one Wii and Sony were to move 10 million PS3's, Nintendo would still have been more profitable since Sony loses money on each system sold. I don't think the PS3 will "flop" as you put it, but instead they will find themselves failing in a relative sense since their previous two systems were at the top for so long. I think Sony got a little too cocky with their popularity and figured they can release anything, however bloated and overpriced and people would be rushing to pick it up. But their success was attributed partly to casual gamer's appeal, with their wide array of game selection and simple controls. By releasing an expensive machine, they're only attracting the serious gamer who budgets in game hardware the same way we would budget food shopping. Meanwhile, Nintendo struck at the right time. For the first time in over a decade, they've made all the right decisions: a system that appeals to the whole family (including women), a low price-point, access to 4 previous generations of Nintendo classics (plus Genesis and TG-16), either through download or GC backwards compatibility, a novel control-scheme that works fairly well, and games that are just downright fun. On the sidelines you have XBox 360 that fills the needs of the more serious gamer with much more anticipated exclusives, high-quality graphics comparable to the PS3 and a lower price than the PS3. As for PS3's "ace cards" - it may be too little, too late. By the time they finally release these, many people already have their Wii's and Xbox360s since they didn't want to wait two years for these long promised "gems". I don't think any of this will kill the PS brand, but they've got to learn from their mistakes on the PS4 if they hope to ever be number one again. I may buy a PS3 in the future, but only when it's cheap enough to make it worthwhile to play those one or two exclusive games. In the meantime, my money's going towards Wii software and an Xbox 360. |
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