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Sunbathing topless legal in Ohio?
« on: December 29, 2007, 05:53:58 pm »
Sunbathing topless is legal for women in CITY PARKS in Ohio?

WTF?

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=4022717&page=1

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Re: Sunbathing topless legal in Ohio?
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2007, 06:23:59 pm »
Well Cleveland does seem to rock a bit more now.   ;D  I still think that the person convicted in this case has a strong case for entrapment.  The woman, who was topless, apparently was acting as though she was interested in the man and apparently asked to see his penis.  If a hot topless chick was caressing me and asked to see my wanker I'd probably have a hard time not succumbing to her advances. 
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Re: Sunbathing topless legal in Ohio?
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2007, 08:25:41 pm »
Hell, nudity is legal where I live in Brattleboro, Vermont.

Of course, those who actually do walk the streets nude are people you don't want to see nude, anyway.

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Re: Sunbathing topless legal in Ohio?
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2007, 08:32:01 pm »
Of course, those who actually do walk the streets nude are people you don't want to see nude, anyway.

Hehe.  Very good point.  I was watching a comedy routine last night that made a similar mention regarding locker rooms.  The person said "Why is it that the older you get, the more naked you have to be in the locker room?"  I started laughing pretty hard because it's true.  At the gym I go to, the younger people such as myself tend to constantly wrap ourselves in towels and not trance around naked.  The slightly older folk will get naked, but only to go and get a towel to cover themselves with.  The old people, they just rip their clothes off and walk around for a while completely naked, having conversations and nearly doing jumping jacks.  It's actually pretty disgusting.
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Re: Sunbathing topless legal in Ohio?
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2007, 10:50:01 am »
This thread reminds me of the several episodes of "Futurama", where the professor is constantly nude..
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Re: Sunbathing topless legal in Ohio?
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2007, 10:56:22 am »
Just read the article the OP linked..
Its definitely entrapment..

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"We want to be held to a higher standard, we are in the community every day and we put our best foot forward,"

Also, looks like the fire department isn't the only one putting their best foot forward, look at the picture..

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Re: Sunbathing topless legal in Ohio?
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2007, 12:59:43 pm »
If the nude sunbather didn't ask "Can I see your penis?" (probably not those exact words, but apparently something to that extent) then it would not be entrapment.  In this instance, she specifically asked the guy to whip it out for her.  Tell me how many sexually active males would NOT whip it out if some really good looking, topless chick asked him to?
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Re: Sunbathing topless legal in Ohio?
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2007, 10:13:10 pm »
Of course, those who actually do walk the streets nude are people you don't want to see nude, anyway.

Sophomore year of college, when home for the summer, I joined a somewhat out of the way racquet/fitness club with my girlfriend and little brother so we could have a place to lift, chill, and hang out in the hot tub on a 3 month cheapo membership.  One day my brother and I are sitting in the sauna and our middle school vice principal comes in.  We're like, damn, dude gave me dozens of detentions, I hate that guy.  He then proceeds to drop towel, sit in the corner, spread his legs, and flick his nutsack back and forth until we just couldn't take it anymore and ran away.  I still have flashbacks every time I see rotten peaches.

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Re: Sunbathing topless legal in Ohio?
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2007, 11:26:03 pm »
Well, she was doing something legal and he did something illegal.  :/
But it sure seems like entrapment when it was her idea for him to take his package out.

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Re: Sunbathing topless legal in Ohio?
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2007, 01:34:21 pm »
Well, she was doing something legal and he did something illegal.  :/
But it sure seems like entrapment when it was her idea for him to take his package out.

I'm really under the impression that the guy was a repeat offender and had been seen doing this kind of thing before.

Randomly walk into a park, see a topless woman, and have your penis out in 5 minutes?  Very unlikely.
It's possible, but irrelevant since they had no evidence of him being a repeat offender.  The news report said, "Eventually, she asked to see Garrison's penis; he unzipped his pants and complied."  To me, that screams entrapment, although the courts obviously don't think it was.

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Re: Sunbathing topless legal in Ohio?
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2007, 01:51:44 pm »
What was he doing in a park "day after day" trolling for women?

Anyway, from what I've read of it, it sounds like entrapment.  Particularly with the touching.  But there's a context from this case that's missing in order to drum up controversy.
I'm not saying this guy is not a pervert, he very well could be, but when a hot topless woman, who is touching him, asks him to take it out and he gets busted for doing what she asked...   

There just has to be something the article isn't saying because that sounds like the very definition of entrapment.  If she did not ask him to take it out, then I would agree with the conviction, but (according to the article) it was her idea for him to break the law.

entrapment: "the luring by a law-enforcement agent of a person into committing a crime." - dictionary.com

*edit*  I just thought I'd add that since they have no evidence of him being a repeat offender, they can not use the fact that some people use that park to masturbate and have sex to convict him.  It could just be he likes to pick up women at that park and was a perfect law-biding citizen before he was asked to do something illegal.  It's very possible thats not the case, but there no evidence that its not (at from what that article says).
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Re: Sunbathing topless legal in Ohio?
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2007, 02:46:27 pm »
That varies dramatically by state.  Some states allow information like that.

I doubt she explicitly told him, "take out your penis".  I watched the video but didn't check to see if it had audio.

Guy, honestly, should have gotten up and walked off as soon as that car rolled up.  It was the three fattest cops I've ever seen!  :-D

He'll get off on appeal.

I find it hard to believe that in some states they can legally say, with zero evidence to prove it, that a guy is a repeat offender simply because of the location of the crime.  It seems like any decent lawyer would be able to easily argue against such flimsy circumstantial evidence.

I didn't even know there was a video, I'm just going by what the article says, "she asked to see Garrison's penis; he unzipped his pants and complied."  It definately seems like the article is leaving something out....or the guy had an absolutely horrible lawyer.

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Re: Sunbathing topless legal in Ohio?
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2007, 08:30:05 pm »
When did it start that taking out your package at the request of a topless woman makes you a pervert?   :dizzy:

Seriously, I'm a major pervert, I guess.

In theory.   :banghead:

"She asked to see Garrison's penis... his lawyer claims it is not only an act of entrapment, but that he only showed her Mr Hat's penis anyway."

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Re: Sunbathing topless legal in Ohio?
« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2007, 08:43:36 pm »
When did it start that taking out your package at the request of a topless woman makes you a pervert?   :dizzy:

Seriously, I'm a major pervert, I guess.

In theory.   :banghead:

"She asked to see Garrison's penis... his lawyer claims it is not only an act of entrapment, but that he only showed her Mr Hat's penis anyway."

Hell, just hearing about a topless woman in a park made me take out my penis.  Then again, I'm here in my own house with nobody around.............  ummm............ maybe I shouldn't have said that?   ;) ;D
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Re: Sunbathing topless legal in Ohio?
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2007, 08:45:06 pm »
Definitely should not have said that.  :laugh2:

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Re: Sunbathing topless legal in Ohio?
« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2008, 11:46:20 am »
What was he doing in a park "day after day" trolling for women?

Anyway, from what I've read of it, it sounds like entrapment.  Particularly with the touching.  But there's a context from this case that's missing in order to drum up controversy.
Agreed, but you added "trolling for women".
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Re: Sunbathing topless legal in Ohio?
« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2008, 12:13:33 pm »

Women?  Is she somehow more than one?


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Re: Sunbathing topless legal in Ohio?
« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2008, 01:10:00 pm »
Free boob show? I'd be taking my lunch break there every day!
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Re: Sunbathing topless legal in Ohio?
« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2008, 01:12:59 pm »
Agreed, but you added "trolling for women".
I used to walk through a park daily on the way to work. There are many reasons to be anywhere.

Article said he saw the woman in the park on a daily basis. 

IMO, He was visiting the park daily to see this topless woman.  If that's not "Trolling for women" I dunno what is.

How hard is it for people to actually read an article..?   :banghead:

Apparently as difficult as it is for people to refrain from editorializing/misrepresenting said article!  :banghead: :banghead:

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He sees her day after day

The quote said nothing more than that.

While Mom's basement may be the normal daily location for a select few, there are actually real, live, people who walk outdoors, including in and through city parks (that's what they're there for!) ... much like RayB (and he is a real, live person ... or was last time I saw him).

I, for one, would certainly walk through that park if I got to see a topless woman every day ... wouldn't you ?





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