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Poll

What plan do you have for emergency power and heating?

I have Natural gas heat
8 (19.5%)
Generator
6 (14.6%)
fuel fired Space heater
2 (4.9%)
Wood/Propane Fireplace
8 (19.5%)
I am spolied and live in a tropical climate. ;)
8 (19.5%)
I don't have an emergency source at the moment
9 (22%)

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Re: Poll: Emergency power and heating
« Reply #80 on: December 17, 2007, 07:26:23 pm »
Apparently someone here has never heard of heat stroke. ::)

Apparently someone here thinks air conditioning has been around forever.

I sat around every day, all day, in 90+ degree weather for years.  Somehow I survived.


This guy has never been in any situation other than sitting in his basement waiting for his mommy to ring the bell for him to come up and eat, obviously.

Whoa ... I agreed with Maxim and tommy all in the same week ...

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Re: Poll: Emergency power and heating
« Reply #81 on: December 17, 2007, 07:31:44 pm »
Who would you agree with on this board that you wouldn't see it as being strange? I haven't seen anyone yet you have not said that about.

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Re: Poll: Emergency power and heating
« Reply #82 on: December 17, 2007, 07:39:07 pm »
Who would you agree with on this board that you wouldn't see it as being strange? I haven't seen anyone yet you have not said that about.

Normally, I wouldn't bite this bait (let's admit it ... normally you don't make a lot of sense), but let's say ...

missioncontrol

and see what you do with it.
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Re: Poll: Emergency power and heating
« Reply #83 on: December 17, 2007, 07:42:43 pm »
I guess you're just one of those people who think if they don't agree with someone on a few or a lot of situations then there is no possible way you can EVER agree with a person from that point on. That's odd to me.

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Re: Poll: Emergency power and heating
« Reply #84 on: December 17, 2007, 07:49:51 pm »
I guess you're just one of those people who think if they don't agree with someone on a few or a lot of situations then there is no possible way you can EVER agree with a person from that point on. That's odd to me.

No, I just find the odds of me agreeing with MaximRecoil and you in the same 7-day period odd.

I don't agree with mission on everything he ever says, but since he doesn't make a habit out of saying completely ridiculous things, I figured that I wouldn't be surprised to agree with him (that was what you asked, wasn't it?). Same would be true for drew ... I don't agree with everything he says, but since he isn't an idiot all of the time, I'm not surprised to agree with him on occasion. Same with most people here ... I actually expect that, from time to time, we will agree.

You, PBJ and Maxim, on the other hand ... it's completely shocking to me that any of you ever actually say anything reasonable ...

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Re: Poll: Emergency power and heating
« Reply #85 on: December 17, 2007, 07:54:27 pm »
I find that post very offensive and I may consider reporting it to a moderator at a later date.   ;D

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Re: Poll: Emergency power and heating
« Reply #86 on: December 17, 2007, 08:00:10 pm »
I may consider reporting it to a moderator at a later date.   ;D

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Re: Poll: Emergency power and heating
« Reply #87 on: December 18, 2007, 01:08:26 am »
They also have conversion kits to make gas generators run off the home natural gas / propane supply.
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Re: Poll: Emergency power and heating
« Reply #88 on: December 18, 2007, 12:07:10 pm »
After looking into this a bit, I would for sure need a generator.  the blower and ignition controls would eat through any battery system...My last house had a wall furnice so it was all convection...I didn't even think about the huge blower that moves the air around the house.  That said, Someday I'll pick up a generator but I could then just as easily heat just one room with a space heater.  Plus it's not that cold here, so the fireplace would probably do. (it's actually an insert and can put out a bit of heat (in that one room.)  I'm still more worried about a fresh water supply if there were any sort of major disaster.

Something to think about.

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Re: Poll: Emergency power and heating
« Reply #89 on: December 18, 2007, 01:27:40 pm »

Would you be able to function with just the ignition/control and no fan in an emergency situation?  I'd MUCH rather temporarily be forced air instead of blown than to have to deal with gas/generator/dude swapping it with a mower.

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Re: Poll: Emergency power and heating
« Reply #90 on: December 18, 2007, 03:17:20 pm »
Who would you agree with on this board that you wouldn't see it as being strange? I haven't seen anyone yet you have not said that about.

Normally, I wouldn't bite this bait (let's admit it ... normally you don't make a lot of sense), but let's say ...

missioncontrol

and see what you do with it.

I agree that it is difficult to agree with missioncontrol....

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Re: Poll: Emergency power and heating
« Reply #91 on: December 18, 2007, 05:46:23 pm »

Would you be able to function with just the ignition/control and no fan in an emergency situation?  I'd MUCH rather temporarily be forced air instead of blown than to have to deal with gas/generator/dude swapping it with a mower.

I'm not sure how much good that would do without some hefty mods to the duct system.  As it stands my impression is that without the blower the unit would overheat. Also I don't think the heat would effectively travel.  I am sure there is a way to make it work but our need is not there. 

I'm pretty sure any generator wuld be pretty safe in our backyard...but I can see that locking it up would be a good idea.  (Won't have to deal with that for a long time anyhow.)

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Re: Poll: Emergency power and heating
« Reply #92 on: December 19, 2007, 10:21:59 am »

Would you be able to function with just the ignition/control and no fan in an emergency situation?  I'd MUCH rather temporarily be forced air instead of blown than to have to deal with gas/generator/dude swapping it with a mower.

Nope. Without the fan running, the control boards will not let the unit continue to operate. Plus the fact that a forced air furnace with no fan has no means to get the heat thorough the ducts and to the people.

A small generator (1500 watt) will start and run an average forced air gas furnace. It won't do much else, but at least you could have some heat. Furnaces are typically on their own circuit, so a generator and a transfer switch can be used to power just that circuit. There are other creative ways to get power to a furnace circuit as well, but they don't meet code so I won't be discussing them here.

Fresh water was brought up. It is a huge concern over the long haul or in a situation like Katrina. In our case last January, with some searching, we could find bottled water after the first 48 hours. We could also go into the city and get water from the municipal system. When we knew that the storm was coming, we filled all our bathtubs with water and several large plastic totes with water. If you're on a well and the power goes out, you soon lose the ability to flush your toilets. Having a 3 gallon bucket and some water in reserve, will allow a toilet flush for the inevitable chong. ;) You can also boil bathtub water to drink in a pinch, assuming you have a means to boil it.

At the end of our 11 day stint, we were getting pretty good (almost comfortable) at surviving without power and running water. Even though the experience sucked *alot* I did learn much from it.

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Re: Poll: Emergency power and heating
« Reply #93 on: December 19, 2007, 10:42:13 am »
You can also boil bathtub water to drink in a pinch, assuming you have a means to boil it.

1 gallon water + 3 drops bleach = drinking water

Add koolaid or other flavorings as needed.

In Iraq, or soldiers have a water truck which then has the proper amount of bleach put in to clean it. of course, the guys who run the truck don't give a ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- and put in too much bleach usually. That is why my buddy BEGGED everyone to send him koolaid mixes. Same thing in Korea, same thing in Vietnam, etc, etc.