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Re: <News> - Tron Joystick Handles!
« Reply #80 on: November 16, 2007, 03:18:36 pm »

That post wasn't broken, it just wore out its consumables.

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Re: <News> - Tron Joystick Handles!
« Reply #81 on: November 16, 2007, 03:24:51 pm »
That post wasn't broken, it just wore out its consumables.

To bring it down to a level the rest of us confused people with child-like reasoning can understand. When Cheffo did it, it was funny. When Maxim did it, it came off as being lame  ::)

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Re: <News> - Tron Joystick Handles!
« Reply #82 on: November 16, 2007, 03:40:16 pm »
That post wasn't broken, it just wore out its consumables.

To bring it down to a level the rest of us confused people with child-like reasoning can understand. When Cheffo did it, it was funny. When Maxim did it, it came off as being lame  ::)

LOL. Insults directed at you or your buddies are always "lame", didn't you know that?

In any event, it wasn't a contest submission; it was simply a reenactment of an actual event. That Cheffo takes this forum so seriously as to destroy his own property because of some text on a screen; is pathetic; not to mention an indication of him being mentally imbalanced.

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Re: <News> - Tron Joystick Handles!
« Reply #83 on: November 16, 2007, 03:55:52 pm »
So along with broken, CRT vs. LCD, and bait/trap, I think we can officially add the words reward and incentive to that list. This should be fun. 

I suspect this :laugh2: goads you as well. So here's a few of these  :laugh2: :laugh2:

And while I was typing:
That's just called a "reward". People do it with me all the time:

"Come here Maxim!"

(Maxim ignores command)

"Come here Maxim!" *makes comment about broken Nintendo joystick*

(Maxim obeys command)

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Re: <News> - Tron Joystick Handles!
« Reply #84 on: November 16, 2007, 03:59:17 pm »

But he'd have no hands and feet before long and couldn't do his job.

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Re: <News> - Tron Joystick Handles!
« Reply #85 on: November 16, 2007, 04:04:42 pm »
That Cheffo takes this forum so seriously as to destroy his own property because of some text on a screen; is pathetic; not to mention an indication of him being mentally imbalanced.

I like to think of it as me not taking joysticks as seriously as you ... THAT obsession is an indication of mental imbalance.

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Re: <News> - Tron Joystick Handles!
« Reply #86 on: November 16, 2007, 04:05:51 pm »

But he'd have no hands and feet before long and couldn't do his job.

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Re: <News> - Tron Joystick Handles!
« Reply #87 on: November 16, 2007, 04:09:01 pm »

He'll never go in there.  That is also a bait shop.

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Re: <News> - Tron Joystick Handles!
« Reply #88 on: November 16, 2007, 04:11:22 pm »
But he'd have no hands and feet before long and couldn't do his job.

I don't do my job anyways... actually... I'm not really sure what my job is. So like a Nintendo joystick, nobody is really sure what I'm supposed to be doing. In any case, even if I did lose my hands and feet, they still couldn't fire me. They'll accomodate my needs by replacing my feet with switches and my hands with springs.

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Re: <News> - Tron Joystick Handles!
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Re: <News> - Tron Joystick Handles!
« Reply #90 on: November 16, 2007, 04:13:08 pm »
He'll never go in there.  That is also a bait shop.

Bait shop ---my bottom---, there's no trap shop. That's only a reward shop.

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Re: <News> - Tron Joystick Handles!
« Reply #91 on: November 16, 2007, 04:51:22 pm »
That Cheffo takes this forum so seriously as to destroy his own property because of some text on a screen; is pathetic; not to mention an indication of him being mentally imbalanced.

I like to think of it as me not taking joysticks as seriously as you ... THAT obsession is an indication of mental imbalance.

I'll argue about anything, whether it is joysticks or can openers. Arguments are easy when you start out on the correct side, regardless of the subject matter.

I reply to text on the screen with text on the screen. You reply to text on the screen by taking hostile action against classic arcade parts, lol.

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As for the other posts from the various sideliners on this thread, I'm reminded of this post I made earlier:

(some of you will soon resort to simple "heckling", I can see it with a prophet's ken, lol)
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Re: Re: <News> - Tron Joystick Handles!
« Reply #92 on: November 16, 2007, 05:30:40 pm »

But he'd have no hands and feet before long and couldn't do his job.

If your shaft is bent or your restrictor is worn out I dont want to know about it!! ;D

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Re: <News> - Tron Joystick Handles!
« Reply #93 on: November 16, 2007, 06:25:40 pm »
Maxim has never completely grasped that we are laughing at him and not with him.

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Re: <News> - Tron Joystick Handles!
« Reply #94 on: November 16, 2007, 06:54:29 pm »
And the fact that HE is the sideliner.
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Re: <News> - Tron Joystick Handles!
« Reply #95 on: November 16, 2007, 06:56:00 pm »
Maxim has never completely grasped that we are laughing at him and not with him.

I think you say that every time this comes up. And of course, I always repeat the "Corky" analogy, or the primary school students laughing at their teacher analogy. In other words, I am not concerned about what simple folks laugh at.

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Re: <News> - Tron Joystick Handles!
« Reply #96 on: November 16, 2007, 06:58:41 pm »
And the fact that HE is the sideliner.

Again with your confusion, Archimedes.

In an argument, the people who are posting, but without arguments (i.e., heckling) are the non-participants, that is, sideliners—you know, like yourself. And the paper cups that you throw from the sidelines aren't particularly effective.

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Re: <News> - Tron Joystick Handles!
« Reply #97 on: November 16, 2007, 07:01:26 pm »
I think you say that every time this comes up. And of course, I always repeat the "Corky" analogy, or the primary school students laughing at their teacher analogy. In other words, I am not concerned about what simple folks laugh at.
Don't end you sentence with a preposition please, Corky.

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Re: <News> - Tron Joystick Handles!
« Reply #98 on: November 16, 2007, 07:07:38 pm »
Again with your confusion, Archimedes.

I thought he was Ptolemy ?

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Re: <News> - Tron Joystick Handles!
« Reply #99 on: November 16, 2007, 07:11:23 pm »
I think you say that every time this comes up. And of course, I always repeat the "Corky" analogy, or the primary school students laughing at their teacher analogy. In other words, I am not concerned about what simple folks laugh at.

Don't end you sentence with a preposition please, Corky.

Ah, you're one of those guys that thinks that ending a sentence with a preposition is simply always incorrect because you heard that somewhere before?

I like Sir Winston Churchill's take on the matter:

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On the subject of ending sentences with prepositions, people often recount a story involving Winston Churchill. When an editor dared to change a sentence of Churchill's that appeared to end inappropriately with a preposition, Churchill responded by writing to the editor, "This is the kind of impertinence up with which I shall not put." His purpose, of course, was to illustrate the awkwardness that can result from rigid adherence to the notion that prepositions at the end of sentences are always incorrect.

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Re: <News> - Tron Joystick Handles!
« Reply #100 on: November 16, 2007, 07:24:31 pm »
And the fact that HE is the sideliner.

Again with your confusion, Archimedes.

In an argument, the people who are posting, but without arguments (i.e., heckling) are the non-participants, that is, sideliners—you know, like yourself. And the paper cups that you throw from the sidelines aren't particularly effective.

Dude, You are so bull headed, that even I cannot continue to be amused by you.  Your main argument is "I'm right".  Nintendy joysticks only need repair, Wico joysticks break.  Of course, your whole basis is the fact that the metal base can't be broken.  So everything that can wear out on a Wico stick can wear out on a Nintendi stick too, but it's different somehow.  The spring wears out in a nindtedno stick, and the grommet wears in a Wico.  The shafts wear too, only they wear more on the Wico because people actually want to play those.  So it has nothing to do with the fact that even perfectly fine nontindeo sticks feel "broken" to people that have them, or the cheesy cheap-as-free microswitches feel like crap, that damn base won't break unless you take a hammer to it. 

If you're going to count ALL of the parts on a nimrhendo stick as relaceable (besides the honda base!), then why not just concede that you can replace the whole damn stick just as easily.  While you're at it, throw the thing away and put on a Wico so the game plays nicely, instead of all clicky-clacky bad.  hmmm?

Or hey, yell "I'm right and you all are wrong because really I just like to argue!!!", stick your fingers in your ears (or anywhere else for that matter), clap yourself on the back that you got ole Zakk to TAKE THE BAIT one last time, and then pretend that you're not tossing names and insults around just like everyone else.  Cuz hey, I have NEVER met anyone AS RIGHT as you are. 

Oh and I don't own a ninteedy stick, but I plan to stain at a holiday inn tomorrow (apologies to the maid in advance), so it makes me as big of an expert as you.  I'll even throw in the towel...well tomorrow, I'm not done with it yet today. 
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Re: <News> - Tron Joystick Handles!
« Reply #101 on: November 16, 2007, 07:29:57 pm »
That Archimedes Ptolemy Zakk is just mean!
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Re: <News> - Tron Joystick Handles!
« Reply #102 on: November 16, 2007, 07:49:16 pm »
Maxim has never completely grasped that we are laughing at him and not with him.

I think you say that every time this comes up. And of course, I always repeat the "Corky" analogy, or the primary school students laughing at their teacher analogy. In other words, I am not concerned about what simple folks laugh at.

I've observed that people generally feel they are smarter than others.  It is most amusing to see stupid people that are this way.

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Re: <News> - Tron Joystick Handles!
« Reply #103 on: November 16, 2007, 07:56:42 pm »
In other words, I am not concerned about what simple folks laugh at.

This is why people laugh at you. You falsely regard yourself as either better or smarter than everyone else. This is the internet. You can't claim yourself as better, you need to prove it. So far, all you've done is proclaim yourself as a genius and everyone else as a moron. You have absolutely no humility, you can't even pretend to have humility. You just plow through posts, swallow the crap thrown out as bait, and try to make yourself look like a genius by retorting in some asinine manner. Hell, a seven year old has a better understanding of the social situation you painted yourself in.

It's now gotten to the point that you're so full of garbage that your mere presence just stinks things up.

The funniest part in all this? You're just going to come back with yet another one of your lame retorts and still be absolutely clueless.

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Re: <News> - Tron Joystick Handles!
« Reply #104 on: November 16, 2007, 08:11:15 pm »
I am now watching the sidelines from the stands in amusement. You guys baited Maxim and are now upset and calling him names because he ate all the bait and has come back for more over and over and it's not funny anymore. You've run out of bait because you realize that Max is a machine and cannot be stopped. You've egged on the beast and now you realize you cannot win, ever. MaximRecoil can't be reasoned with, he can't be bargained with...he doesn't feel pity or remorse or fear...and he absolutely will not stop defending Nintendo sticks. Ever.

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Re: <News> - Tron Joystick Handles!
« Reply #105 on: November 16, 2007, 08:13:40 pm »
Ah, you're one of those guys that thinks that ending a sentence with a preposition is simply always incorrect because you heard that somewhere before?

No, but nice assumption.  I am someone who believes in proper grammar especially when someone else attempts to prove their superiority.


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Re: Re: <News> - Tron Joystick Handles!
« Reply #106 on: November 16, 2007, 08:26:05 pm »

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Re: <News> - Tron Joystick Handles!
« Reply #107 on: November 16, 2007, 08:31:40 pm »
You've run out of bait

You must be new ... we haven't even started talking about can openers yet!

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Re: <News> - Tron Joystick Handles!
« Reply #108 on: November 16, 2007, 08:35:31 pm »
heh. I think Maxim is alright. It's just that Nintendo Joysticks are his kryptonite and he flips out when he hears anything about nintendo joysticks being less than perfect.


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Re: Re: <News> - Tron Joystick Handles!
« Reply #109 on: November 16, 2007, 08:59:01 pm »

But he'd have no hands and feet before long and couldn't do his job.

If your shaft is bent or your restrictor is worn out I dont want to know about it!! ;D

nobody?  oh come on... I thought it was funny... Maybe nobody else has the (grade school) sense of humor that I possess   ;)

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Re: Re: <News> - Tron Joystick Handles!
« Reply #110 on: November 16, 2007, 09:01:31 pm »
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=65687.0

Previous results on "broken"

Oh yeah I forgot all about that one.  We were ALLLL wrong, and he was right.  Silly me to forget.
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Re: <News> - Tron Joystick Handles!
« Reply #111 on: November 16, 2007, 10:08:28 pm »

Dude, You are so bull headed, that even I cannot continue to be amused by you.  Your main argument is "I'm right".  Nintendy joysticks only need repair, Wico joysticks break.

No, that's not my argument. That's your inaccurate summary of my argument. In other words, a "straw man." Wico joysticks have a restrictor that can be rounded out eventually, in which case, the joystick would be considered "worn out". The restrictor is not a separate part that can be replaced. I would consider a Nintendo joystick to be "worn out" if it had a rounded out restrictor too, but that never happens. Nintendo used a heavier steel than Wico did for the restrictor. They also made it a separate component that can be solely replaced.

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Of course, your whole basis is the fact that the metal base can't be broken.

This is another straw man.

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So everything that can wear out on a Wico stick can wear out on a Nintendi stick too, but it's different somehow.

The main difference in durability is the restrictor. See above.

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The spring wears out in a nindtedno stick, and the grommet wears in a Wico.  The shafts wear too, only they wear more on the Wico because people actually want to play those.

The shaft on a Nintendo joystick will never wear to a significant enough of a degree to affect performance. It is a solid steel rod. The same goes for a Wico joystick.

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So it has nothing to do with the fact that even perfectly fine nontindeo sticks feel "broken" to people that have them, or the cheesy cheap-as-free microswitches feel like crap, that damn base won't break unless you take a hammer to it.

I think you'll find that anyone who thinks a Nintendo stick feels "broken" is probably missing the restrictor, or using the wrong restrictor for the game they are playing. Trying to play e.g., Donkey Kong with a Nintendo joystick that has an 8 way restrictor, or even worse, no restrictor at all, will give the impression of a broken stick, because Mario will be stopping and getting stuck on ladders a lot.  

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If you're going to count ALL of the parts on a nimrhendo stick as relaceable (besides the honda base!),

I don't. Only the spring and microswitches. Apparently you haven't read the thread.

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then why not just concede that you can replace the whole damn stick just as easily.  While you're at it, throw the thing away and put on a Wico so the game plays nicely, instead of all clicky-clacky bad.  hmmm?

The same reason that many people wouldn't put a 350 Chevy into a Road Runner.


No, but nice assumption.  I am someone who believes in proper grammar especially when someone else attempts to prove their superiority.

You apparantly missed the point. I know you *think* that it is always incorrect to end a sentence with a preposition, but this is not the case. And the specifics of this "rule" are debated even among grammar experts. One thing that most of them agree upon however, is that it is irrelevant except in professional writing.


This is why people laugh at you.

Why don't you tell me what it means when an idiot laughs?

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You falsely regard yourself as either better or smarter than everyone else.

There are plenty of people smarter than me. However, you won't find them among the "broken Nintendo joystick" crowd. There is a reason for that. Someone smarter than me wouldn't position himself on the wrong side of an argument in the first place.

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This is the internet. You can't claim yourself as better, you need to prove it.

Well, regarding intelligence, see above. An objective analysis of this thread, by someone smart enough to do so accurately, would show that the average member of the "broken Nintendo joystick" crowd, has some difficulties.

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So far, all you've done is proclaim yourself as a genius and everyone else as a moron. You have absolutely no humility, you can't even pretend to have humility. You just plow through posts, swallow the crap thrown out as bait, and try to make yourself look like a genius by retorting in some asinine manner.

I don't consider someone to be a moron until they have established that they are a moron with their own text.

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Hell, a seven year old has a better understanding of the social situation you painted yourself in.

You are confusing a lack of concern for a lack of understanding.   

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It's now gotten to the point that you're so full of garbage that your mere presence just stinks things up.

It looks like you lose sleep over this sort of thing. Try not to go completely off the deep end and start destroying your property like Cheffo. It'll be alright. It is just text on a screen.

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The funniest part in all this? You're just going to come back with yet another one of your lame retorts and still be absolutely clueless.

Feel free to point out where you (or anyone else) have established that I was wrong about anything.


I've observed that people generally feel they are smarter than others.  It is most amusing to see stupid people that are this way.

In all honesty Mark, you are the slowest person on this thread. Even Zakk is a genius compared to you.

heh. I think Maxim is alright. It's just that Nintendo Joysticks are his kryptonite and he flips out when he hears anything about nintendo joysticks being less than perfect.

My favorite joystick is a Happ Competition. This argument is not about, nor has it ever been about, whether or not Nintendo joysticks are perfect. The argument is about their durability, and what constitutes "broken". The same people that play fast and loose with the word "broken" are the ones that argue the durability aspect.

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Re: <News> - Tron Joystick Handles!
« Reply #112 on: November 17, 2007, 01:26:54 am »
It's long ass posts like that on a Friday night that still lead me to believe Maxim is some spaz who lives in his mom's basement.  Most of us have had better things to do tonight than suffer from "diarrhea of the keyboard" like good old Maxim here.

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Re: Re: <News> - Tron Joystick Handles!
« Reply #114 on: November 17, 2007, 09:14:47 pm »
The same people that play fast and loose with the word "broken" are the ones that argue the durability aspect.

Nintendo joystick's play fast and loose...

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Re: Re: <News> - Tron Joystick Handles!
« Reply #115 on: November 17, 2007, 09:40:43 pm »
The same people that play fast and loose with the word "broken" are the ones that argue the durability aspect.

Nintendo joystick's play fast and loose...

Given that people can reach the kill screen in Donkey Kong with Nintendo joysticks, a game which is considered to be among the hardest arcade games ever, then I guess they work fine, regardless of your opinion of them.

I set the record in Super Punch-Out with a Nintendo joystick as well.

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Re: <News> - Tron Joystick Handles!
« Reply #116 on: November 17, 2007, 10:55:07 pm »
I can get a couple boards past slipice... and once I was able to pull out all the rivets and make Donkey Kong fall on his head. :applaud:

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Re: <News> - Tron Joystick Handles!
« Reply #117 on: November 18, 2007, 05:20:32 pm »
I can get a couple boards past slipice... and once I was able to pull out all the rivets and make Donkey Kong fall on his head. :applaud:

I don't know what you mean by "slipice". I'm no good at Donkey Kong myself. I've never even played it on the real arcade machine. I started playing arcade games regularly in '84 and by that time, games like Donkey Kong and Pac-Man were nowhere to be found; not in my area anyway. The only one I ever saw "back in the day" was in the entrance area of a department store (probably Zayre's or K-mart) in '82 or so (I was 7). There was a Q*Bert there too. I remember my mother not appreciating the "swearing" displayed on the Q*Bert marquee (lol).

I've played it on MAME (and ports of it on consoles when I was a kid), but I don't get far in MAME, and the game isn't enjoyable enough IMO to inspire me to practice it either.
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Re: <News> - Tron Joystick Handles!
« Reply #118 on: November 19, 2007, 01:08:00 am »
Slipice, you know from Mario Bros.


Cool we're the same age. My Dad was in a bowling league and the bowling alley had great games. The earliest ones I remember are Donkey Kong, Bagman, Frogger, and Galaxian. I liked DK and it was compelling, but really hard. I remember the first time they brought in new games like Ms. Pac-Man, Xevious, Mario Bros., Pole Position, and Dragon's Lair. I remember them brand spanking new with perfect controls, new perfect T-molding, and bright monitors. Those were the days man, those were the days.

I really liked Mario Bros., it was the one I could play the longest with one quarter with my little kid lack of coordination. I also like how the stick was small and responsive.

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Re: <News> - Tron Joystick Handles!
« Reply #119 on: November 19, 2007, 02:49:21 am »
Slipice, you know from Mario Bros.

Ah, Mario Bros. I never played that in the arcade either. The first time I saw or even heard of it was when my cousin got an NES in '86. We didn't play it much though, as we found Super Mario Bros. to be far more interesting.

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Cool we're the same age. My Dad was in a bowling league and the bowling alley had great games. The earliest ones I remember are Donkey Kong, Bagman, Frogger, and Galaxian. I liked DK and it was compelling, but really hard. I remember the first time they brought in new games like Ms. Pac-Man, Xevious, Mario Bros., Pole Position, and Dragon's Lair. I remember them brand spanking new with perfect controls, new perfect T-molding, and bright monitors. Those were the days man, those were the days.

It sounds like you were going to the arcade at a younger age than I was. My older brother and his friends used to go in the early 80's. I heard them talk about Missile Command, Battle Zone, Defender, Asteroids, etc., but they never took me along. In '82 I got a BMX and I was riding all around town in the summer, but I didn't have money to play arcade games. There was a Pole Position machine that I would always stand in front of, spinning the steering wheel, pressing the gas, shifting the shifter, and marveling at the graphics I could see in the attract mode. 

In '84 my mother started working at one of the places in town that had arcade machines, so I finally got a chance to play. Karate Champ was the first game I got good at, and then Punch-Out in the same year. The Punch-Out machine was an amazing sight to a 9 year old in '84—it was to me anyway. It seemed huge. I was about eye-level with the lower monitor and I had to look skyward to see the upper monitor. I'd never seen anything like it. And the graphics were amazing for the time. I don't think there was anything else at the time with such big and well-animated sprites. Plus, most importantly, the game was fun. And like you mentioned, I remember this game being mint. It was '84, the same year the game was released, so I was playing it when it was essentially brand new. Nowadays you'd never see a brand new arcade machine in a small Mom & Pop's type location, but back then you did.

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I really liked Mario Bros., it was the one I could play the longest with one quarter with my little kid lack of coordination. I also like how the stick was small and responsive.

I didn't pay much attention to joysticks back then, but the Nintendo joystick on the Punch-Out machine was quite a relief after struggling with those miserable, stiff, mushy, short-throw sticks on the Karate Champ machine.

The Nintendo joystick works good if it is clean and lubricated (light lubrication on the bearing—a heavy grease makes them sluggish). Plus, it *has* to have its restrictor plate, and be the right one for the game you are playing. There are a lot of them floating around out there that are missing the restrictor plate because at some point in time someone figured they could make it into an 8-way by simply removing the 4-way restrictor. This makes the stick miserable to use. It becomes a long-throw mushy stick, because instead of positive stops against a solid restrictor plate, you get a springy stop against the microswitch actuators as they bottom out, and eventually you'll bend or break the actuators because you are forcing them back farther than they are supposed to go.