I'm amazed at how many people have the wrong idea...

[tommy]

Chad when you get mad at someone do you go after them and try to kill them? If you do try to kill someone why is that? If you don't try to kill someone what makes you stop?

I bet the thought of going to jail for the rest of your life makes you stop, it's the consequences that stops you and it's the same with a dog. The dog does not want to have to deal with it's leader having to punish him.

 It's a simple matter of leadership here, does your second child try to kill your first child when you hand that kid a cookie or do both children know (from you) that everything is going to be OK and they are safe where they are.

[CheffoJeffo]

Well, it's official ... hell is freezing over ... I'm going to agree with tommy and chad in the same thread ... 

My last dog was a seriously (!) alpha Siberian Husky ... it took me a LONG time to establish dominance over him and even then he would continually test the boundaries. It was an inate part of his nature and the breed. No fewer than 3 professional trainers (and more than a few breeders) said that it was just the way he was -- he was born to lead a pack and nothing could be done except for me to establish myself as the true leader. They told me that I would always have to be careful of him with dogs and children (and, obviously, I was ... he was an animal).

Every single time that I had trouble on walks was due to another owner not being able to control their dog, particularly the bigger dogs being walked by a 90-pound waif.

[ChadTower]

Chad when you get mad at someone do you go after them and try to kill them? If you do try to kill someone why is that? If you don't try to kill someone what makes you stop?

When you try and compare the rational capabilities of a person to that of a dog it makes you look really bad.  I mean really, really bad.

Punishment will only deter a dog in most circumstances.  There will always be times when the dog doesn't think of it - pecking order challenges and female territorial boundaries, mostly, but sometimes over food as well.  Especially if the owner isn't present to actually administer that punishment. 

[tommy]

A dog getting a punishment by it's pack leader is taken far more serious than you telling your kid to go to sleep and he/she tells you to piss off. This is the whole dogs lively hood and he takes it serious and learns from that, easier than a human would.

[CheffoJeffo]

When you try and compare the rational capabilities of a person to that of a dog it makes you look really bad.  I mean really, really bad.

Chad, why don't you try and see things from tommy's point of view for a change ? 

Maybe his rational capabilities are comparable to his dog's ? 

 

[tommy]

When you try and compare the rational capabilities of a person to that of a dog it makes you look really bad.  I mean really, really bad.

Chad, why don't you try and see things from tommy's point of view for a change ? 

Maybe his rational capabilities are comparable to his dog's ? 

 

Where is Canada did you say you live again? 

[CheffoJeffo]

Where is Canada did you say you live again? 

Careful glass boy or I'll get a Pit Bull ...

 

[tommy]

You better be ready to act responsible then, it might be a good change for you. 

[patrickl]

I remember a leading dutch dog trainer claiming that one of the problems with pittbulls is that they do not really work with the general "alpha male" dog psychology since they are not pack dogs. He claimed that was one of the tings that makes them so unpredictable.

I really don't see the point in owning a pitbull. Why do people insist on owning a "gun that can backfire at random"?

[CheffoJeffo]

You better be ready to act responsible then, it might be a good change for you. 

Next thing you know, I'll be locking my game consoles up in glass boxes ....

[tommy]

You could also get one of my patented "pit bull glass box's" where you are definitely safe and you can enjoy your dog just like "normal people"

[missioncontrol]

so Tommy since you are such a responsible dog owner, do you take the time to bag your dogs crap while walking him or are you one of those doooshes that will just leave it for the neighborhood kids to step in and track in their houses?

[tommy]

I walk my dog over to peoples house i don't care for and let him ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- his brains out, like your house if it was in the area. 

I have a nice big yard and what i do with my dogs ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- is not your business.

Is this all you came here to talk about, dog ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---? Don't you have something of more substance to say regarding this or are you really not the type to put much thought into thinking?

[missioncontrol]

just trying to gauge how much of a responsible owner you are to form an educated opinion... and your response leads me to believe that you are a ---smurfy--- owner and pitts should be destroyed, banned, drowned.... whatever... just left off the face of the earth....

[tommy]

If you don't like the response you get to your questions maybe you should take some time next time and rephrase your question in a better manor.

[missioncontrol]

the response is the exact response I expected from a tool such as yourself... your post just verified it....


thanks

[tommy]

Do your ask your wife "what god awful dinner are you preparing on this foul day, ---smurfette---" or do you say "what are you making for dinner tonight , dear"?

That is a good and bad example of two questions and how to ask them, you decide what one is better.

[missioncontrol]

I don't ask my wife what's for dinner.... I ask her where the hell is my dinner, but then again she usually has ready when I get home....

guess I trained her real good, didn't I....

[patrickl]

Depends. Does she poop in the kitchen?

[missioncontrol]

no, she's house broke....


So Tommy, how do you ask your wife what's for dinner? or do you just swat her on the nose with a rolled up paper?

[tommy]

I treat her with love and respect and she does me. Whoever trained you and your wife is leading you down a horrible path of biting out of anger and confusion.

See, i can still stay on topic while off topic. 

[missioncontrol]

I treat her with love and respect and she does me.

WTF it marriage isn't a damn fairy tale....  that has to be the gheyest thing I ever read

[tommy]

You poor poor guy. You never been happy before, have you?

If you're not living that life with your lover at some degree you need to move on and find a better life with someone else, don't waste your time there being unhappy.

[shardian]

I was at a family get together one time, and one of my wife's distant cousins had a ---meecrob--- husband who was shooting off at the mouth at how awesome of a dog trainer he was. Real run of the mill, ---uvula--- stuff I tell ya. Well, my sister in law told the guy she had a completely deaf, partially blind sheep dog that ran rampant over the other dog and her puppies. She asked him if he could help that dog. He talked his big game, then she said "well he's just down the street, I'll go get him." At this point, I was ready to bust out laughing. She went and got the dog, and just as he said, he had that damn dog taking visual commands, sitting, staying, coming on command etc, all without a single food treat.

Off topic a bit, but thought it was a neat story.

[patrickl]

Yeah it's amazing how much you can train dogs. If only all small children were tought to be dog trainers at birth. Maybe then they wouldn't get mauled by a dog in a "bad mood".

[edwardvci]

A turtle was happily swimming along a river when a scorpion hailed it from the shore.

"Dear friend turtle!" called the scorpion. "Please let me climb upon your back and swim me to the other side of the river!"

"No," replied the turtle, "for if I do, you shall sting me, and I shall die."

"Nonsense!" replied the scorpion. "If I kill you in the middle of the river, you shall sink, and I shall drown and die with you."

The turtle thought this over, and saw the truth of the scorpion's statement. He let it upon his back and began swimming towards the other side of the river. Halfway across, he felt a sharp pain in the back of his neck.

"Why have you stung me?!" cried the turtle as his body began to stiffen. "Now you shall die as well!"

"Because it is in my nature," replied the scorpion as the turtle sank beneath the waters.



FOOD FOR THOUGHT!!!!


A young girl was trudging along a mountain path, trying to reach her grandmother's house. It was bitter cold, and the wind cut like a knife. When she was within sight of her destination, she heard a rustle at her feet.

Looking down, she saw a snake. Before she could move, the snake spoke to her. He said, "I am about to die. It is too cold for me up here, and I am freezing. There is no food in these mountains, and I am starving. Please put me under your coat and take me with you."

"No," replied the girl. "I know your kind. You are a rattlesnake. If I pick you up, you will bite me, and your bite is poisonous."

"No, no," said the snake. "If you help me, you will be my best friend. I will treat you differently."

The little girl sat down on a rock for a moment to rest and think things over. She looked at the beautiful markings on the snake and had to admit that it was the most beautiful snake she had ever seen.

Suddenly, she said, "I believe you. I will save you. All living things deserve to be treated with kindness."

The little girl reached over, put the snake gently under her coat and proceeded toward her grandmother's house.

Within a moment, she felt a sharp pain in her side. The snake had bitten her.

"How could you do this to me?" she cried. "You promised that you would not bite me, and I trusted you!"

"You knew what I was when you picked me up," hissed the snake as he slithered away.

[tommy]

A turtle was happily swimming along a river when a scorpion hailed it from the shore.

"Dear friend turtle!" called the scorpion. "Please let me climb upon your back and swim me to the other side of the river!"

"No," replied the turtle, "for if I do, you shall sting me, and I shall die."

"Nonsense!" replied the scorpion. "If I kill you in the middle of the river, you shall sink, and I shall drown and die with you."

The turtle thought this over, and saw the truth of the scorpion's statement. He let it upon his back and began swimming towards the other side of the river. Halfway across, he felt a sharp pain in the back of his neck.

"Why have you stung me?!" cried the turtle as his body began to stiffen. "Now you shall die as well!"

"Because it is in my nature," replied the scorpion as the turtle sank beneath the waters.



FOOD FOR THOUGHT!!!!


A young girl was trudging along a mountain path, trying to reach her grandmother's house. It was bitter cold, and the wind cut like a knife. When she was within sight of her destination, she heard a rustle at her feet.

Looking down, she saw a snake. Before she could move, the snake spoke to her. He said, "I am about to die. It is too cold for me up here, and I am freezing. There is no food in these mountains, and I am starving. Please put me under your coat and take me with you."

"No," replied the girl. "I know your kind. You are a rattlesnake. If I pick you up, you will bite me, and your bite is poisonous."

"No, no," said the snake. "If you help me, you will be my best friend. I will treat you differently."

The little girl sat down on a rock for a moment to rest and think things over. She looked at the beautiful markings on the snake and had to admit that it was the most beautiful snake she had ever seen.

Suddenly, she said, "I believe you. I will save you. All living things deserve to be treated with kindness."

The little girl reached over, put the snake gently under her coat and proceeded toward her grandmother's house.

Within a moment, she felt a sharp pain in her side. The snake had bitten her.

"How could you do this to me?" she cried. "You promised that you would not bite me, and I trusted you!"

"You knew what I was when you picked me up," hissed the snake as he slithered away.

I find it hard to believe that you are a real person who is posting that. 

[shardian]

A turtle was happily swimming along a river when a scorpion hailed it from the shore.

"Dear friend turtle!" called the scorpion. "Please let me climb upon your back and swim me to the other side of the river!"

"No," replied the turtle, "for if I do, you shall sting me, and I shall die."

"Nonsense!" replied the scorpion. "If I kill you in the middle of the river, you shall sink, and I shall drown and die with you."

The turtle thought this over, and saw the truth of the scorpion's statement. He let it upon his back and began swimming towards the other side of the river. Halfway across, he felt a sharp pain in the back of his neck.

"Why have you stung me?!" cried the turtle as his body began to stiffen. "Now you shall die as well!"

"Because it is in my nature," replied the scorpion as the turtle sank beneath the waters.



FOOD FOR THOUGHT!!!!


A young girl was trudging along a mountain path, trying to reach her grandmother's house. It was bitter cold, and the wind cut like a knife. When she was within sight of her destination, she heard a rustle at her feet.

Looking down, she saw a snake. Before she could move, the snake spoke to her. He said, "I am about to die. It is too cold for me up here, and I am freezing. There is no food in these mountains, and I am starving. Please put me under your coat and take me with you."

"No," replied the girl. "I know your kind. You are a rattlesnake. If I pick you up, you will bite me, and your bite is poisonous."

"No, no," said the snake. "If you help me, you will be my best friend. I will treat you differently."

The little girl sat down on a rock for a moment to rest and think things over. She looked at the beautiful markings on the snake and had to admit that it was the most beautiful snake she had ever seen.

Suddenly, she said, "I believe you. I will save you. All living things deserve to be treated with kindness."

The little girl reached over, put the snake gently under her coat and proceeded toward her grandmother's house.

Within a moment, she felt a sharp pain in her side. The snake had bitten her.

"How could you do this to me?" she cried. "You promised that you would not bite me, and I trusted you!"

"You knew what I was when you picked me up," hissed the snake as he slithered away.

A man was walking thru a manufacturing plant when he heard a crash, then a cry for help. He rushed to the scene to see none other than Superman standing near a machine. Superman looked at the man and said " Sir, my cape is stuck in this machine. I am about to be pulled in and mangled. Not even I, superman, can survive such a horrible fate." The man thought it over for a few seconds, then ran over and started tugging on the cape to get it loose from the mechanism. After being unsuccessful, the man assessed the machine. He determined how it worked and was able to move a few levers and superman was freed! After dusting himself off, Superman thanked the man, then proceeded to melt the man's nuts off with his heat vision. As he lay moaning on the ground, the man asked why Superman did that.
Superman replied " You've heard the song, ---smurfette---. You NEVER pull on Superman's cape".

 

[shmokes]

Isn't that story supposed to be a frog?  A scorpion could sting a turtle's shell all day long and the turtle would be perfectly fine, I would think . . .

[shardian]

Isn't that story supposed to be a frog?  A scorpion could sting a turtle's shell all day long and the turtle would be perfectly fine, I would think . . .

Stung him in the neck...

[patrickl]

"The Turtle Moves"

[shmokes]

I knew I had heard that story with a frog.  No idea which is the original, though.

[jbox]

They NEED to put in the time or they should no be allowed to own a dog, especially a pit bull or other big dogs.

Oopsies! 

[squirrellydw]

Dogs are a lot more predictable than people.

[patrickl]

Dogs are a lot more predictable than people.

and?

[jbox]

Dogs are a lot more predictable than people.

and?

and so we should ban people too. 

[Barry Barcrest]

Oi Lioke Turtles....

[SithMaster]

My apologies Saint.

[saint]

No worries

[shardian]

I hate it when I miss the good stuff...