Please help with Mame32 player2 rotation

[calitomans]

I am using mame32 latest version and I am aware of the properties options for flipping and rotating, but how do I get the games to flip between player 1 and 2 during the game?
When I set it to cocktail mode I get a split screen with player 1 and 2 at the same time...

I am newbie, so bear with me. Just trying to build a 4 player cocktail for the kids(and myself ) for Christmas. I have almost everything complete except the wiring for the control panel and monitor mounting.

Thanks in advance or any help!

[Dizzle]

I know a lot of the games in the MAME version I have (.104) note that screen flipping in cocktail mode is not supported.  I don't know if this has changed or not, but I have yet to come across a game in MAME that supports this.

[calitomans]

Thanks for the response...Do you have any suggestions? Maybe another frontend? I am new to this, and I am sure I am asking obvious questions, but my searches are coming up with nothing.
I know there must be a way to not have to get up and let player 2 sit in my seat when it is their turn...?

[u_rebelscum]

I am using mame32 latest version and I am aware of the properties options for flipping and rotating, but how do I get the games to flip between player 1 and 2 during the game?
When I set it to cocktail mode I get a split screen with player 1 and 2 at the same time...

It's not clear what game you're trying to play and how you're setting cocktail mode, but I think you're changing to "cocktail" outside of the game?  If so, how are you doing it?  I didn't think basic mame32 had a "cocktail" setting, but other variations had a fake "cocktail" mode that does as you described IIRC.

Mame and Mame32 won't flip p1/p2 unless the original game did it the arcades.  Most games that flipped had a dipswitch between upright & cocktail.  To get to these dipswitches, start the game, press tab, go to dipswitches, and look for an upright/cocktail dipswitch.  (But as Dizzle said, some games do not have cocktail mode emulated yet even if they have the dipswitch.)

[calitomans]

While Mame32 is open...Right click on the game(pacman), properties, 'screen' tab, under view-choose cocktail...

I am more than willing to choose a different FE. Is there one that allows the in-game screen flipping between 1/2?

[Dizzle]

I doubt any front end is going to allow you to flip between player 1 and 2 while in the game.  That would be an emulator function.  I would do what calitomans suggested and check the dipswitches in the option menu (tab) while the actual game is running.

[u_rebelscum]

While Mame32 is open...Right click on the game(pacman), properties, 'screen' tab, under view-choose cocktail...

Okay, understood.  Didn't know mame32 had this feature.

I am more than willing to choose a different FE. Is there one that allows the in-game screen flipping between 1/2?

Nope.  To repeat myself, it's done in the game (see changed to bold text on how to do it):

Mame and Mame32 won't flip p1/p2 unless the original game did it the arcades.    Most games that flipped had a dipswitch between upright & cocktail.  To get to these dipswitches, start the game, press tab, go to dipswitches, and look for an upright/cocktail dipswitch.  (But as Dizzle said, some games do not have cocktail mode emulated yet even if they have the dipswitch.)

IIRC, there were variations of mame that recompiled mame so the cocktail dipswitches were changed to default to cocktail instead of the normal default, but I never used them.  Sorry.

If you can't find the variant (or it's out of date), other methods include:
- Start all the cocktail games, hand change the dipswitches to cocktail,
- Edit the source so the dipswitches default to cocktail, and
- Find all the games games cocktail dipswitches and the needed stats, and make cfg/cfg files that change the dipswitch settings.

All three are "easy" but highly repetitive.  If looking at the source in scr/emu/drivers (for #2 & 3) and the cfg files (for #3) doesn't ring a bell on what to do, I advise doing the first.  If you try either the later, I'll help with basics on how mame works, but you'll have to do the real work.