Can i copy a Gauntlet Legends Hard drive

[PileDriver]

Recently the hard drive in my gauntlet machine started "knocking' during game play.
The internal self test shows it has no file system problems.
I'd like to copy it to a new drive before all is lost. Windows doesn't recognize it.
Drive Copy won't copy it. Any ideas?

PileDriver

[Space Fractal]

If Windows cant see the drive anymore. You might try to use one of the shareware file recovery applications like these:
www.R-STUDIO.com
www.quetek.com
www.file-recovery.net

Even the NTFS drive is gone, these application scae the whole drive for files, which can take long time. Then it need to copy it to a another drive (to aviod data loss). You might need to move the file damages HD to a another machine before trying recovery it.

 But Im actuelly not recommered to move windows system files, but instead  reinstall Windows XP. Data and FE files is the highest priotity to moved over first.

I do not have seen any good freeware applications, so you need to buying one first. I have simular trouble last year, but was not in my mame machine.

[PileDriver]

Thanks for the reply.
Just to make it clear.
It's from a real Gaultlet Legends cab.
I attached it to a win XP Pro machine to try to make a copy.

[Q*Bert_OP]

FYI, you need a hard drive copying machine to copy it...

Arcade hard drives are written as unpartitioned drives!

[PileDriver]

That's what I was afraid of.
I guess its off to find another drive.
Thanks,
PileDriver

[AaronGiles]

chdman.exe built with MAME can do it.

First, plug in your hard drive and identify which device Windows thinks it is (drive 0 will be your boot disk). Once you know the drive index, run

chdman -createhd \\.\physicaldriveX c:\gauntlet.chd

(where the 'X' above is replaced with the drive index, e.g., \\.\physicaldrive2 means the 3rd disk in the system). This will create a compressed copy of the hard drive on your c: drive. Then buy a new disk, plug it in, and extract the CHD file to it:

chdman -extract c:\gauntlet.chd \\.\physicaldriveX

Be careful with this last command as it will overwrite whatever hard disk you specify with the contents of gauntlet.chd.

[Q*Bert_OP]

If you only need to copy one drive, you're better off just buying the drive...

I happen to make many drives for a local amusement company, so buying a copier was a good investment for me...the one I got costs about as much as a new PC...

[Drews Arcade]

Lots of software out there that will copy it, but its easy for me to replace them when there this cheep.

eBay Link

[PileDriver]

Lots of software out there that will copy it, but its easy for me to replace them when there this cheep.

Thanks for the link.
I'm going to get one and try to copy the old one.

Thanks for the info Aaron, I'll try it with the legends and if it works I'll make a backup of my Dark Legacy drive too.

I Love this Place!!!!!!

[PileDriver]

I Just wanted to say thanks again. 
I backed up to a CHD and extracted to another Hdd
and everything works great!
@Aaron  - The newest version of chdman (v119)wouldn't extract to the disk.
It allways errors with the following "error opening output file '\\.\physicaldiskX' "
I used v.83 and it worked fine. Just thought you should know.

[tommy]

Excellent looking cab btw.

[Havok]

The newest version of chdman (v119)wouldn't extract to the disk.
It allways errors with the following "error opening output file '\\.\physicaldiskX' "
I used v.83 and it worked fine. Just thought you should know.

Did you use the same version to backup and extract?

[PileDriver]

The newest version of chdman (v119)wouldn't extract to the disk.
It allways errors with the following "error opening output file '\\.\physicaldiskX' "
I used v.83 and it worked fine. Just thought you should know.

Did you use the same version to backup and extract?

Yes.

Excellent looking cab btw.

Thanks, I've had it for about 2 years.
I can swap in the Dark Legacy board and drive and be playing in minutes.
Definitely one of my favorites!

[HaRuMaN]

That massive marquee is just begging to be replaced by an LCD...  if that were a MAME cab.   

[tommy]

I was messing with Gauntlet Dark Legacy in mame and it seems to work perfectly but only at about 30% speed on my rig. I would imagine a dual core setup would have enough horsepower to make it run well. Try it in mame if anything happens to your hard drive and if you have a decent PC. It looks great too.

[Spaz Monkey]

http://www.vendoramusements.com/hard_drives.htm
http://www.revisionx.com/kiproject/ki1.html

Use these links as a reference.  I have a KI machine that was/is/has a bad/broken HD.

[kjoel0123]

I own the original cab gauntlet dark legacy and I can tell you that the graphics are top notch. Its one of my favorite cabs. I love it. Try to get the cab you wont be dissapointed ! I traded a mini cab for mine.

[pefdude]

aaron is the man! i've used chdman many times for just this reason. also contributed a couple images to the mame team for emulation.

[Game-boi]

So, seeing as this is my first cabinet, is it worthwhile to back-up the hard drive now? i.e., before a problem occurs...

[RayB]

Watch out. "Harry" will turn you in to Midway, or whoever makes Gauntlet Legends.

[Encryptor]

http://www.vendoramusements.com/hard_drives.htm
http://www.revisionx.com/kiproject/ki1.html

Use these links as a reference.  I have a KI machine that was/is/has a bad/broken HD.

Spaz - Just an FYI.  I tried to download that Dolly program from the top link you provided but it asks for a username and password. I tried to email the admin with the email address at the bottom of the page and it was returned undeliverable.

Encryptor

[CheffoJeffo]

Watch out. "Harry" will turn you in to Midway, or whoever makes Gauntlet Legends.

Tell me about it.

I was more than a little concerned when I got a call from Nintendo Of America the other day after tussling with Harry ... turns out they just had some stuff to send me, but it was a little freaky coming so close on the heels of that argument.

 

[Spaz Monkey]

Here's the file...

[btp2k2]

So, seeing as this is my first cabinet, is it worthwhile to back-up the hard drive now? i.e., before a problem occurs...

It's always a good idea to backup data...regardless of what it is and what is for....but in this case, since you are completely screwed if that data is gone....BACK IT UP!!!

[Encryptor]

Spaz Monkey,

Thank you. 

Encryptor

[Game-boi]

So if I needed to backup/repair my machine by replacing the hard disk, anyone have any objections with an M-systems 1 GB flash disk? Do we think it will work? I found one in the $50.00 range, figure it may last a "life-time" this way. Anyone have specs on the original disk? I have the manuals and don't see nuthin' bout no hard disk...
 

[rhuel]

I'm not at all familiar with "hard drive" Arcade games, but could one use dd in Linux to backup an arcade hard disk?

dd is used to make forensic backups of drives and doesn't care what FS or partitions are on the disk, it sees it as a device and copies bit by bit to the new drive.

Just a thought.

man page for dd