athlon 64 4000+ is it good enough for most games?

[robot8319]

i am about to upgrade my setup to something a little new a 2.6 p4 can only go so far these days..

this is what i plan on buying..

athlon 64 4000+ am 2
1.0gig of ram
160gig hdd
dvd+r burner

the os of choice will be winxp 64 bit of course.

now is this setup going to be enough for fullspeed on the crusin games and carnevil?


or do i need something a tad faster?

the single core 4000+ clocked at 2.6ghz costs $50 while the lowerclockced dual core 3800+ costs almost $80 clocked at 2.0ghz...

which is the better deal and why i dont care for FPS or pc games i am buyign this strictly for mame use only.

[retrometro]

For "straight" mame use, your P4 2.6 is plenty fast. 

also, I don't know why winxp 64bit is the OS choice.  you'll be fine w/ winxp standard as long as you update your system enough to be stable and then just update / test your front end / mame when you have time.

What seems to be running so horribly that you are considering this upgrade?  Have you tried games and front ends on your existing P4 2.6?

[robot8319]

tekken 1 2 3 games runs around 55fps
crusin usa runs about 33fps with fskip off
carnevil runs 18fps

i am hoping to play carnevil as thats one of my favorite games to play.

if it matters i am using the pentium 4 optimized version 0.110..

in 0.119 tekken goes slow for me i dont know whats up with it..about 45 to 30fps on average...

is the  4000+ at 2.6ghz worth fitty?

[SGT]

Zinc runs tekken 1 2 3 very well IMO.

According to one of the Devs (Arbee), Cruisin USA requires an Intel Core 2:
http://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=120275&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1

I use Project64 for the N64 port of Cruisin' USA.


I have no idea about Carnevil.

[Chris]

Carnevil and Cruis'n are not playable near 100% on a 4000+, or on an X2 4600.  NewEgg has an Athlon X2 6000 on sale for $169; that may be a better bet.  It's worth noting that I tested those with a 32 bit MAME; I haven't tried it with a 64 bit build on a 64 bit Windows.

[Circo]

I was using a 4000+ X2 dual core a few months ago and Carnevil still was not playable.

[NickG]

Carnevil doesn't run 100% on my core 2 duo system at 3.0 GHz or my AMD 4000+. at 3.0 GHz
   it runs smoother and faster without throttle, but the timing is not even.
The others run 100%

[Chris]

Carnevil doesn't run 100% on my core 2 duo system at 3.0 GHz or my AMD 4000+. at 3.0 GHz
   it runs smoother and faster without throttle, but the timing is not even.
The others run 100%

Your 4000 is stable at 3GHz?  I could barely OC it at all without stability issues...

[NickG]

Carnevil doesn't run 100% on my core 2 duo system at 3.0 GHz or my AMD 4000+. at 3.0 GHz
   it runs smoother and faster without throttle, but the timing is not even.
The others run 100%

Your 4000 is stable at 3GHz?  I could barely OC it at all without stability issues...

Yes, but it is a mobile Athlon 64 - socket 754 single core (stock is 2.6GHz).  Sometimes I wish I could  run my E6600 that high without issues, but now the E6850's are out...

[Chris]

Carnevil doesn't run 100% on my core 2 duo system at 3.0 GHz or my AMD 4000+. at 3.0 GHz
   it runs smoother and faster without throttle, but the timing is not even.
The others run 100%

Your 4000 is stable at 3GHz?  I could barely OC it at all without stability issues...

Yes, but it is a mobile Athlon 64 - socket 754 single core (stock is 2.6GHz).  Sometimes I wish I could  run my E6600 that high without issues, but now the E6850's are out...

I didn't know there was a mobile Athlon that ran that fast.  Mine is a socket 939 running at the stock 2.6 GHz.  I have it worked up on my bench with MAME, but probably will not actually install it in my cabinet due to my disappointment with its ability to run the higher-end games.  I have a 2000+ in the cabinet now and the 4000+ just doesn't buy me enough new stuff to make the installation worth the effort.  I may give the X2 6000+ a shot, but it would require a new motherboard, memory and a 24-pin power supply... about $400 in all, and with me losing my job in November I'm not sure that's the best place for my money.  I'm hoping someone here has an Athlon 64 X2 6000+ who can tell us how these games run...

--Chris

[robot8319]

the athlon 64 4000+ or 6000+ os no longer an option anymore i just checked the egg and a core 2 duo e 6550 is only $5 more than the 6000+ so i am going to go with that i heard that core 2''s use the ghz more efficiently.

i was tempeted to buy the 64 bit 4000+ today but i am glad i waited it out.

thanks.

[Chris]

Does anyone have an X2 6000+ they're willing to try a couple of games on?

[mcfreak]

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If they would get better multithreaded support I have a damn Quad Xeon 3.0 GHZ Hyperthreaded machine up front that would kill some of these games...  Even with multi proc enabled MAME seems to only use two threads, at least on Windows 2003...

Is there anything that will make a single threaded application run inside some virtual CPU space where it would use all 8 processors?

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