Author Topic: Stencilling Service (Read 37743 times)

mahuti · « **Reply #40 on:** October 12, 2005, 11:14:31 am »

On something like a cab that suffers heating changes, moisture damage (drinks) constant hand touching ... it's always better to use oil based enamels for longevity of the paint.

I wouldn't recommend stripping a cab over a mixup on the perfect paint... but do it right if you can.

spriggy · « **Reply #41 on:** December 05, 2005, 09:55:45 am »

Quote from: Crazy Cooter on September 23, 2005, 12:13:01 pm

How do we get a quote?

prOk · « **Reply #42 on:** December 07, 2005, 10:16:06 pm »

I can cut these out of adhesive stencilling vinyl for 65.00.

Wienerdog · « **Reply #43 on:** December 26, 2005, 01:11:14 pm »

Quote from: prOk on December 07, 2005, 10:16:06 pm

I can cut these out of adhesive stencilling vinyl for 65.00.

prOk · « **Reply #44 on:** December 26, 2005, 02:34:11 pm »

The main advantage of vinyl is that you can put all colors in one and the artwork actually sticks to the cabinet while you paint it. This does two things, one, keeps the edges very nice and crisp (you can mimic overspray if you wish) and it keeps all the colors perfectly registered on the cabinet saving time and headaches of switching and aligning subsequent stencils. Yea, for a touch more you can get thin plastic stencils that you can potentially re-use.. but don't forget, for those to truly work correctly you need to put some kind of adhesive on them anyway to stick them to the cabinet or you'll have tons of overspray and an imprecise final product. After use, you have to deal with cleaning that adhesive off and hope they don't curl up during painting. (Not intending anything negative, but look at the photos of the 'multi use' stencils on the defender within this thread, you clearly see lots of overspray which is the nature of that kind of stencil, not anything the painter did wrong). Add to that, the reality that you're most likely not going to paint two or more of any one game in your lifetime, most people do one game and keep it and the stencils would just get stored somewhere forever anyway. My goal really was to offer a much better quality final product than is currently available on the market.. Paper ones, thin plastic ones etc have been around forever and they are tough to work with (i've done tons of stencilled games over the years using all of them, my technique of using Acetate and Photo mount has been around for a long time when I didn't care for the ones commercially available) no, it's not re-usable, but yes it will look better when you are done and at 60 bucks or so, it's cheap.

Rook3 · « **Reply #45 on:** December 26, 2005, 05:02:37 pm »

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The main advantage of vinyl is that you can put all colors in one and the artwork actually sticks to the cabinet while you paint it.

So what you're offering is a removeable adhesive vinyl stencil?

Do you have any pics of the item in question?

Russ

prOk · « **Reply #46 on:** December 26, 2005, 08:23:06 pm »

Right.. 100% removable stencil vinyl.
Here's what an example of the Taito art looks like in stencil form..

Rook3 · « **Reply #47 on:** December 26, 2005, 10:36:27 pm »

Do you have any pics of something more complex? For thae Taito art,
is that a full side mask, with the "black" areas removed for painting?

I'm wondering how hard it would be to do the Williams Stargate art.

Russ

spriggy · « **Reply #48 on:** December 26, 2005, 10:54:48 pm »

Quote from: prOk on December 26, 2005, 08:23:06 pm

Right.. 100% removable stencil vinyl.
Here's what an example of the Taito art looks like in stencil form..

Ahhhh...

prOk · « **Reply #49 on:** December 27, 2005, 09:54:15 pm »

Yup spriggy, I started with your file.. The Taito stencils have been tested on a real cab by someone that'll be sending me pictures of it soon.. I made lots of tiny adjustments to the file to get it closer on a real cab but the result what I'm told was very good.

Actually, taito art is much more complex than stargate Roook. I have stargate stencil files already tested and ready to go.

/b

spriggy · « **Reply #50 on:** December 27, 2005, 11:58:41 pm »

Quote from: prOk on December 27, 2005, 09:54:15 pm

Yup spriggy, I started with your file..

saint · « **Reply #51 on:** January 07, 2006, 04:40:16 pm »

Prok - saw that you had Gyruss stencils available. What's the cost for those? Any chance you have recommended paint codes? Does a set of stencils include both sides and the front?

Thanks!

--- saint

prOk · « **Reply #52 on:** January 07, 2006, 05:21:45 pm »

HI.. I charge 45.00 for a set of Gyruss stencils. To save costs and make them much easier to align I put all the colors on one stencil because they don't overlap.. just remove the colors one by one from the applied stencil and paint them while covering up the previously painted color. A little more work, but guaranteed to be lined up right rather than trying to get all the layers just right between stencils. I've never seen a gyruss with front art??

I just scanned a Stargate Mini and Juno First upright today.. hope to have stencils for those soon as well..

/brian

Inman · « **Reply #53 on:** February 17, 2006, 01:46:51 pm »

I used Stencilsonline for a full sized home-made Defender cabinet. Everything turned out so well that I decided to get a quote on a mini-Defender cabinet I'm building. Luke at Stencils Online asked me to post his reply in this thread and offers the following discount:

I have been recently directed to the website where you and a number of your colleagues have been discussing refurbishing arcade cabinets. Fascinated with your projects, as well as pleased with the good word put in, we have decided to make an offer to the forum.

I wanted to post as much in the thread made, but I cannot get an account. Please pass on the following.

Knowing that the files provided are public access, we are willing to offer a 15% discount to anyone who mentions that thread. We will also begin storing arcade cabinet files for anyone who wants them and cannot find them on their own, so we encourage everyone to send in their files!

At any rate:

Your stencils will cost $89 to cut in total, minus the %15 discount brings it to $76. This includes both layers.

We have your billing information on file, so all we need from you is confirmation of the order, as well as any updates you may need.

Regards,

Luke Bouley

Stencils Online
www.stencilsonline.com

ChadTower · « **Reply #54 on:** June 29, 2006, 03:35:40 pm »

That is incredible. I'm going to contact them now about Ms Pac stencils. Anyone need a set?

EDIT:

Hey, that place isn't too far from me. Maybe I should offer to drive up and get a more detailed accounting of their setup.

ataritoobin · « **Reply #55 on:** June 29, 2006, 04:05:38 pm »

I'd be in for a set of Ms. Pac-Man stencils..though I don't know how the silk-screened black would come out (e.g. 1981 Midway Mfg. Co.). I would think if some bits were left out on the black outlines, they could be hand touched up.

ChadTower · « **Reply #56 on:** June 29, 2006, 04:17:03 pm »

Just checked the buy/sell forum... apparently there is a group buy of Ms Pac stencils going on... so I'll see if I can get in on that. If not, at least the stencil makers know how to make them already.

Buddabing · « **Reply #57 on:** June 30, 2006, 12:36:16 pm »

I've added this vendor to the vendor wiki.

ataritoobin · « **Reply #58 on:** August 29, 2006, 12:34:49 am »

It seemed like the results of the Ms. Pac-Man stencils weren't very satisfactory.

Prok, how much would you charge for Ms. Pac-Man stencils? The black I'd imagine would be the most difficult/intricate.

prOk · « **Reply #59 on:** August 29, 2006, 03:26:11 pm »

I could do them I believe, but I do not have color separations for ms pac.. the Pink/Yellow/Black that are usable for stencilling.

Whoever drew the art on Localarcade did a good job if you were going to print them, but to try and make stencils I don't think they'd come out good without some significant modification. I tried cutting them once and actually redid the Yellow and Pink but the black was just going to be too much time so I dropped it.

If someone wanted to try and rework that art with stencilling in mind i'm willing to cut a set of stencils and have someone here test them.

I think the other effort ran into two problems.. first, the same issues I mentioned regarding the artwork itself and second, Mylar + small pieces = a mess. I know people want to re-use stencils for some odd reason, but really 90% of folks out there use stencils once on their one game and that's it.

usedelectronics · « **Reply #60 on:** September 26, 2006, 10:30:07 pm »

Quote from: ataritoobin on August 29, 2006, 12:34:49 am

It seemed like the results of the Ms. Pac-Man stencils weren't very satisfactory.

There's a understatement.

ChadTower · « **Reply #61 on:** September 27, 2006, 10:02:38 am »

I'd be perfectly happy with affordable single use stencils.

ataritoobin · « **Reply #62 on:** February 22, 2007, 02:52:44 pm »

Has anybody modified the Ms. Pac-Man artwork stencils per prOk's comment? This would be a great stencil to have vs. the decals IMHO.

Zeno · « **Reply #63 on:** July 01, 2007, 02:01:04 am »

Has anyone tried to use this link for the stencils?

If this works and if someone is willing to print and cut the stencil, I'm in for a set. Name your price.

prOK - What is your take on the link?

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=50429.0;attach=45384;image

Take care all.

WunderCade · « **Reply #64 on:** July 01, 2007, 01:31:27 pm »

Saint probably knows what this link is about. Perhaps he could shed some light.

Quote from: Zeno on July 01, 2007, 02:01:04 am

Has anyone tried to use this link for the stencils?

If this works and if someone is willing to print and cut the stencil, I'm in for a set. Name your price.

prOK - What is your take on the link?

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=50429.0;attach=45384;image

Take care all.

Zeno · « **Reply #65 on:** July 01, 2007, 02:45:24 pm »

FYI all...

I emailed Stencils Online and they said that they will not be doing any more stencils for arcades.

I guess it's tough dealing with people that demand perfection. $:-\$

prOk · « **Reply #66 on:** July 02, 2007, 12:22:54 am »

it's too bad really that I can't do namco stencils.. I have the ability and the artwork to make them but i'm just not ballsy enough to take my chances with the copyright lawyers

WunderCade · « **Reply #67 on:** July 02, 2007, 02:58:25 pm »

Quote from: prOk on July 02, 2007, 12:22:54 am

it's too bad really that I can't do namco stencils.. I have the ability and the artwork to make them but i'm just not ballsy enough to take my chances with the copyright lawyers

Just curious, did you ever get the black reconciled, I know it was a b--ch on stencils.

prOk · « **Reply #68 on:** July 02, 2007, 10:19:16 pm »

Yup.. I got the black for pac man looking beyoootiful.. ms pac, i'm 90% there but just never finished it.

WunderCade · « **Reply #69 on:** July 10, 2007, 01:52:53 pm »

Quote from: prOk on July 02, 2007, 10:19:16 pm

Yup.. I got the black for pac man looking beyoootiful.. ms pac, i'm 90% there but just never finished it.

I know you've said you can't/won't make the vinyl stencils for Namco - understandable.

Do the Pac/MsPac sideart vectors on AAL reflect your recent updates? I was thinking of trying out vinyl stencils (peel-stick) and posting the process up on the the board for my Ms. Pac restoration project in the PA thread.

BTW: I PM'ed you.

prOk · « **Reply #70 on:** July 10, 2007, 10:09:33 pm »

HI, no, I haven't upped my pac stuff to the AAL.. ms pac is'nt quite complete yet.. I'm also holding off because i'm starting the process of attempting to gain some kind of rights to reproduction of stencils for these games!

Zeno · « **Reply #71 on:** July 10, 2007, 11:04:12 pm »

Quote from: prOk on July 10, 2007, 10:09:33 pm

I'm also holding off because i'm starting the process of attempting to gain some kind of rights to reproduction of stencils for these games!

I'm with you prOK! Let me know what I can do. Do I need to send a petition to Namco?

WunderCade · « **Reply #72 on:** July 10, 2007, 11:40:03 pm »

Quote from: prOk on July 10, 2007, 10:09:33 pm

HI, no, I haven't upped my pac stuff to the AAL.. ms pac is'nt quite complete yet.. I'm also holding off because i'm starting the process of attempting to gain some kind of rights to reproduction of stencils for these games!

Good luck, that would be very kewl, I'm speculating that 2bits prices are soo high because of Namco's licensing fee. I doubt 2bits is just gouging. I also wonder if they gave 2bits exclusivity which seems to explain his lack of competition.

HighNoon · « **Reply #73 on:** July 14, 2007, 11:12:34 pm »

prOk,

Man it would be awesome to get my hands on a Pac stencil - I wouldn't tell a soul.

I don't know anybody.

WunderCade · « **Reply #74 on:** July 15, 2007, 12:36:07 am »

Get in line, pal.

HighNoon · « **Reply #75 on:** July 15, 2007, 12:01:40 pm »

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Get in line, pal.

Exactly what I'm attempting to do.

ChadTower · « **Reply #76 on:** July 16, 2007, 10:30:14 am »

I've also been waiting a long time on Ms Pac stencils... mostly because I want to do one in alternate colors.

WunderCade · « **Reply #77 on:** July 16, 2007, 05:55:54 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on July 16, 2007, 10:30:14 am

I've also been waiting a long time on Ms Pac stencils... mostly because I want to do one in alternate colors.

I am looking for a local shop here that has the proper set-up for the vinyl stencils, probably some of the graphics shops. I've ran into a brick wall here on the forum with vendors. None of them seem to want Ms. Pac side-art money, lol, like it's drug money or something. I guess they think the Namco police will show up at their door.

HighNoon · « **Reply #78 on:** July 16, 2007, 06:05:12 pm »

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it's drug money or something. I guess they think the Namco police will show up at their door.

I wish someone would do a single run for us on the board (Pac & Ms Pac), but didn't advertise, and then got out. I believe nothing would come of it, perhaps a cease-and-desist order, that's all. Maybe I'm wrong, but man would it be cool to have a set of each.

My cabinet is dying for a repaint.

I'll keep crossing my fingers.......

WunderCade · « **Reply #79 on:** July 16, 2007, 06:14:51 pm »

Quote from: HighNoon on July 16, 2007, 06:05:12 pm

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it's drug money or something. I guess they think the Namco police will show up at their door.

I wish someone would do a single run for us on the board (Pac & Ms Pac), but didn't advertise, and then got out. I believe nothing would come of it, perhaps a cease-and-desist order, that's all. Maybe I'm wrong, but man would it be cool to have a set of each.

My cabinet is dying for a repaint.

I'll keep crossing my fingers.......

Heck, even it was just a stencil of the black lines. The other colors are so simplistic in shape and coverage that I could do the other colors my myself with some clear Mylar. It's the black that sucks and is soo time consuming, especially on a Pac-Man machine.


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