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« on: June 21, 2007, 08:00:09 pm »
zeal, the very zeal chosen to indicate with an elegant movement of the finger a thing impossible to tell, zeal of a chosen position as a challenge to gravity, in equilibrium on infinite movements of the torso and the shoulders, controlling the thin oscillations of a whole which would be a center, an equation, an in-between, a fraction of space, time, emotion, acceptance of a state close to vegetal state but with an animal action

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Re: dig this philosophy...or whatever...
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2007, 08:05:45 pm »
whut

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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2007, 08:12:02 pm »
The 4 corner quadrant Earth has 4-24 hour simultaneous Days within a single rotation of Earth, as if 4 different Worlds with 4 separate Days and 4 separate races with 4 stages each.
Bible's and science's 1-day Earth rotation are evil scams.

Ignoring Time Cube is evil.

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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2007, 08:19:04 pm »
Good ad hoc try. His is better, though.

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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2007, 10:56:55 pm »
Good ad hoc try. His is better, though.
Huh?  My reply was copied directly from the theory of timecube  www.timecube.com


There's no human entity, only corner Cubics,
rotating life's 4 corner stage metamorphosis.
4 corner head has 1 corner face, 4 face life.
Educated fools can't comprehend Cubicism.
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« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2007, 01:55:50 am »
If you're quoting something, it helps to either put it in quotes or in italics. Regardless, my quoted source is more substantive and spiritually creative, but also very ethereal.

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« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2007, 02:36:01 am »
My source if from the self proclaimed wisest human on earth.


If you believe the academic erroneous word
god, you will die stupid and evil - for you
have not the mental freedom to comprehend
Nature's Higher Order Wisdom of the
Harmonic Simultaneous 4-Day Time Cube Creation Principle within 1Earth Rotation.
Until word is cornered, educators are liars.

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« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2007, 02:48:06 am »
If you're quoting something, it helps to either put it in quotes or in italics.
Timecube is so well known on the internet, I did not feel it necessary.  Especially since I mentioned timecube by name in my original post.

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« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2007, 03:43:38 am »
You know those guitars that are, like... double guitars?

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« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2007, 04:37:37 am »
If you're quoting something, it helps to either put it in quotes or in italics. Regardless, my quoted source is more substantive and spiritually creative, but also very ethereal.

Italics?  Do you know the first thing about grammar?  You can't just put a quote in italics and call it good.  Italics can mean a number of different things, and quoting source material is not even its primary purpose.  If you're not actually going to site a source, I'm sorry, but italics is absolutely ---smurfing--- meaningless. Italics alone won't save you from plagiarism.

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« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2007, 06:50:35 am »
Do you know the first thing about grammar?

You saw who you were talking to, right?

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« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2007, 07:38:28 am »
zeal, the very zeal chosen to indicate with an elegant movement of the finger a thing impossible to tell, zeal of a chosen position as a challenge to gravity, in equilibrium on infinite movements of the torso and the shoulders, controlling the thin oscillations of a whole which would be a center, an equation, an in-between, a fraction of space, time, emotion, acceptance of a state close to vegetal state but with an animal action

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i surrender to this kind of crazy art, this kind of liberal expression, this kind of explosive sexiness, i surrender to that big fat loud noisy sound that flows into me, i fall on my knees for those allusions to noise, to violent bursts of vivid material, i am so given into groovy stuff, i surrender to all that simple way to make art, to make new with anything, to invent from scratches, to take what is already done to make it sound brighter, i let what i want to say to be comprehensible, i want to say it straight, i want to lead my thoughts where it is easy to flourish, i surrender to all the deep and sincere sounds, the ones that come first when i am on a good groove, the ones that precede my will to do well, this kind of art is general, this kind of art is only the top of what i can expect, general music

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« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2007, 07:56:44 am »
zeal, the very zeal chosen to indicate with an elegant movement of the finger a thing impossible to tell, zeal of a chosen position as a challenge to gravity, in equilibrium on infinite movements of the torso and the shoulders, controlling the thin oscillations of a whole which would be a center, an equation, an in-between, a fraction of space, time, emotion, acceptance of a state close to vegetal state but with an animal action

That's a lot of words to say nothing at all.  I'd ask you to post the whole sentence to see if there's a context that gives this any meaning, but I'd be afraid for Saint's disk space.

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« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2007, 03:00:12 pm »
Ennn, jeffy's gettin feisty. See folks, chemistry. I still think optical buttons are a good idea - just need very little travel...and there's a small current running so would have to design the units to use less - but I think the arrangable button pad is better. Anyways, originality has never been the issue - I'm involved with you fer chrissakes.

shmokes: the italics are just to show it is quoted from somewhere else. A citation isn't necessary.

Meaning (as well as quality) isn't the matter here but flow, whimsy, and intent.

Never heard of timecube before. Had no idea what you were referring to or that it wasn't something you yourself made up. And by spiritually creative I meant something that isn't derogatory in nature. Oh, and that was the whole paragraph.
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« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2007, 04:44:23 pm »
Whaaaaaat?  Shmokes gets back and jumps right on a shorthair post?  Who'da thunk.  ;D

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« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2007, 04:51:18 pm »

If you're quoting something, it helps to either put it in quotes or in italics.



I've read many of your posts, and trust me when I say putting it in quotes or italics doesn't help ANY of them. :blah:
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« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2007, 05:46:25 pm »
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« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2007, 06:22:17 pm »
Oh, and that was the whole paragraph.

Paragraph?  That's not even a sentence.  To even begin to comprehend a meaning from that blather would require throwing out the dictionary and assuming new definitions for several of the words being used here.

I'd love to see a literal translation of what you think this "paragraph" means.  Please include your definitions for zeal, tell, equilibrium, infinite, thin, oscillations, equation, fraction, and vegetal.  Oh, and philosophy, as long as you're at it.

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« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2007, 06:30:57 pm »
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"Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
Thy micturations are to me
As plurdled gabbleblotchits
On a lurgid bee.
Groop, I implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes
And hooptiously drangle me
With crinkly bindlewurdles,
Or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon,
See if I don't!"

Cute, but no. That's a regular kind of sentence just with odd words.

sammy: not familiar with ULLYSSES? And I already said meaning wasn't important. Also, I never said I liked it.

drew: sure thing drive-by.

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« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2007, 07:47:02 pm »

drew: sure thing drive-by.


Stop hitting on me.  I've told you before, I'm a happily married man.
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« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2007, 08:06:58 pm »
Don't know where your towel is?

Cute, but no. That's a regular kind of sentence just with odd words.
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« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2007, 09:42:28 pm »

drew: sure thing drive-by.


Stop hitting on me.  I've told you before, I'm a happily married man.

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« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2007, 10:09:17 pm »
sammy: not familiar with ULLYSSES? And I already said meaning wasn't important. Also, I never said I liked it.

Joyce was pretty good about using a verb once in a while.

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« Reply #23 on: June 22, 2007, 10:30:39 pm »
Yeah. I'm not saying I like Joyce, either, I was just mentioning. (And no one corrected me on the book title's spelling. One too many L's.)

Saint: I'm not sure how to take that. I thought you were taken.


"Drews wife on the other hand....." : is that actual or metaphorical?

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« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2007, 10:58:27 pm »

"Drews wife on the other hand....." : is that actual or metaphorical?


Oh, it's actual.  AND a metaphor!  She's both ON the other hand, AND...
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« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2007, 11:18:24 pm »
metaphorically, I vote shorttranq has to post at least one message in PnR for every post he has here.  Until then, he's banished to PnR.  Those dummies will understand him better over there.

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« Reply #26 on: June 23, 2007, 12:28:11 am »
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"Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
Thy micturations are to me
As plurdled gabbleblotchits
On a lurgid bee.
Groop, I implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes
And hooptiously drangle me
With crinkly bindlewurdles,
Or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon,
See if I don't!"

Cute, but no. That's a regular kind of sentence just with odd words.


I would figure that you, being a scholar of scifi, would recognize the venerable blathering of a Vogon ship captain's poetry.....

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« Reply #27 on: June 23, 2007, 12:58:05 pm »
No, drew, that meant (and it occured to me that Jack might've meant the same) is your wife a happily married man, too?

boyk: um, Adams, maybe? I've never been interested in that kind of stuff. Goofy wasn't fun to me. And after graduating from some of the campy adventure stuff, like EE Doc Smith, I went straight into stuff of the early-to-mid 80s, when things really started to get mature, particularly with certain authors: Bear, Card, Brin, Benford (although his earliest, 70s stuff was this mature, just obscure to me).

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« Reply #28 on: June 23, 2007, 01:16:38 pm »

boyk: um, Adams, maybe? I've never been interested in that kind of stuff. Goofy wasn't fun to me. And after graduating from some of the campy adventure stuff, like EE Doc Smith, I went straight into stuff of the early-to-mid 80s, when things really started to get mature, particularly with certain authors: Bear, Card, Brin, Benford (although his earliest, 70s stuff was this mature, just obscure to me).

Goofy yes, but not mature? No.  Adam's stuff is incredibly mature, it simply takes a humourous approach to many things.  That doesn't make it any less mature.  Comedy, beyond basic toilet humor and fart jokes, can be immensely intellectual and mature.  Its ok that its not your bag though, to each their own.

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« Reply #29 on: June 23, 2007, 01:30:15 pm »
No, I said 'mature' after campy adventure stuff, with Smith as an example, and my meaning was that it was very science-based/informed as well as being good or great literature. Smith was an inventor, chemist, etc...but his stuff was conceptually wily, pretty thin story-wise, and pretty reserved regarding the personalities and relationships of the characters.

I haven't really read any P.K. Dick. I read slowly, and not often enough lately, so maybe eventually. Currently I'm in the middle of Dan Simmons' THE FALL OF HYPERION. Read it before but thought I'd do the 'Cantos' again.

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« Reply #30 on: June 23, 2007, 02:06:32 pm »
I haven't really read any P.K. Dick.

I would have through this would be a given with you ... shorthair those things that androids dream about ....
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« Reply #31 on: June 23, 2007, 02:41:27 pm »
Through, huh? And that's another thing: electro-mechanical, humanoid devices were still this big deal in the late 60s. There was a reason they updated this aspect in the movie...although, given that replicants are made from (or into) organic tissue really answers the question if they're human.

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« Reply #32 on: June 23, 2007, 02:43:25 pm »
Through, huh?

Got me there ... got batteries for that other thing ?
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« Reply #33 on: June 23, 2007, 02:52:27 pm »
Well, you know, I love you dearly, but your lack of performance does at times require something else to cover it.

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« Reply #34 on: June 23, 2007, 02:55:14 pm »
Well, you know, I love you dearly, but your lack of performance does at times require something else to cover it.

And again ... is that double or nothing ?
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« Reply #35 on: June 23, 2007, 04:37:27 pm »
If you're into philisophical mind  :censored: scifi...you MUST read some PKD.  He practically invented the genre.  Some of my faves are Clans of the Alphane Moon, Counterclock World, Dr. Bloodmoney, A Scanner Darkly, and of course The Man in teh High Castle.  Do Androids Dream.... is good, but not indicitive of his best work.  If you're really into wierd stuff, read the Valis books....part fiction, part psychotic auto-biographical.  Really strange, but insightful stuff.  Not sure what it is insightful to -> the future, mankind, the innerworkings of a madman? but still....

Much of his BEST work was in shorts...there are literally dozens, if not hundreds of PKD shorts floating around.  Many of the movies made from his work (Total Recall, Minority Report, etc) are based on shorts...usually pretty poorly executed, but based on his ideas nonetheless.

I'll also assume you've read Gibson, no?  Truly a pioneer in the virtual worlds ideas, et al.


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« Reply #36 on: June 23, 2007, 06:10:17 pm »

Goofy wasn't fun to me.


It appears that fun isn't even fun to you.

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« Reply #37 on: June 23, 2007, 07:44:29 pm »
depends, drew.

boyk: um, I'm not sure what I'm into, anymore. I think Dick is sort of in the same camp as Alfred Bester (read some of one of his books and it was wacky but the story just didn't grab me) and perhaps Harlan Ellison (whom I've read 'I have no mouth...' and at the time was into the fact that it came out in '67 and even today would be considered X-rated, but it was really just a horror story), and will think about it.

Of course I've read Gibson; he is, or at least was, the man. Loved or liked all his stuff up till PATTERN RECOGNITION (which just didn't grab me, but I kinda shy away from current time literature). Seems he's taken a bit of a hiatus from writing, but finally has his own site and is even active on his forum.

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Re: dig this philosophy...or whatever...
« Reply #38 on: June 23, 2007, 09:33:48 pm »
I don't think I'd put PKD in the same camp with any other authors IMHO...his stuff is really different.  His stories are less about technology and space or the future, and are entirely about the inner workings of the mind...of course the stories tend to play out in sci fi type settings and/or futuristic.

Anywho, a good one to pick up is Clans of the Alphane moon...that's the first one of his books I read and I was hooked.

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Re: dig this philosophy...or whatever...
« Reply #39 on: June 24, 2007, 12:07:55 am »
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