Author Topic: Grab opinions on used tool deals here (Read 9784 times)

ChadTower · « **on:** May 11, 2007, 10:25:13 am »

Since most of us are on the lookout for good prices on used tools, grab opinions here.

I'll start:

This is right in the town I work in... I'm very interested in the scroll saw for making pinball plastics and the like. I know I could do it with a router, but this would be faster, I'd assume. At that price I also assume I could just resell it and get my cash back if not.

http://providence.craigslist.org/tls/328561783.html

NiteWalker · « **Reply #1 on:** May 11, 2007, 12:12:00 pm »

There's some awesome deals there. I'd definitely grab the scroll saw and some of those hand planes.

ChadTower · « **Reply #2 on:** May 11, 2007, 12:19:55 pm »

The hand planes too, eh? I wasn't considering those. I heard from the guy, the reciprocating saw is gone, but the other stuff is all there.

Chris G · « **Reply #3 on:** May 11, 2007, 12:27:15 pm »

Not sure how that particular model is on features, but the biscuit joiner looks like a steal. That's a good tool to have, but not one I'd use enough to drop $100+ on a new one.

ChadTower · « **Reply #4 on:** May 11, 2007, 12:31:37 pm »

Yeah, I'm headed over after work to have a look. Don't have tons of cash to drop at the moment on tools without a specific forward looking use, so I'm going to look at the scroll saw, the joiner, and probably at least one planer.

Any advice on which planer to grab?

I figure the scroll saw is something I want, and the joiner and planer will come in very handy when I'm refacing the kitchen cabinets next year. The wife changed her mind about just painting when she saw the ridiculous new oak cabinets her brother's kitchen is now sporting.

NiteWalker · « **Reply #5 on:** May 11, 2007, 01:21:17 pm »

The stanley and the 22 incher definitely. Other hand tool freaks would say grab the whole shebang. I'd look at the chisels unless you already have a set and maybe the handsaws too.

ChadTower · « **Reply #6 on:** May 11, 2007, 02:17:12 pm »

I was mainly going for the scrollsaw, but now your response in the template thread has me thinking maybe I really want a bandsaw. I don't need intricate details, but I do need to be able to cut fairly complex shapes, like for pinball plastics.

Chris G · « **Reply #7 on:** May 11, 2007, 02:58:58 pm »

Nitewalker's just trying to confuse you into buying the whole mess.

ChadTower · « **Reply #8 on:** May 11, 2007, 03:01:03 pm »

He is good at that.

I'm leaning towards buying the scroll saw if it's in decent shape. Even if it turns out I really need a bandsaw, I can get my $75 back for this one, and learn something in the process.

ChadTower · « **Reply #9 on:** May 11, 2007, 07:33:39 pm »

Bought the scroll saw and joiner. I am officially out of money for tools for a while.

leapinlew · « **Reply #10 on:** May 11, 2007, 07:44:00 pm »

yeah, but you got some good tools! Now do yourself a favor, and don't look at craigslist until you get some more loot.

ChadTower · « **Reply #11 on:** May 11, 2007, 07:45:29 pm »

It's good advice I probably won't follow.

I have more than enough new toys for a while, though. Definitely more than I have time to play with them.

ChadTower · « **Reply #12 on:** May 12, 2007, 06:50:46 pm »

The writing is my son's... didn't know he did that while I was in the house.

Chris G · « **Reply #13 on:** May 20, 2007, 08:45:41 pm »

Any thoughts on this deal? It's a Ryobi BT3100 table saw for $200. Rusty mentioned this one in the price watch thread. I can't seem to find anywhere that sells it anymore, so I don't know what a reasonable price is. The reviews I've found seem generally favorable, though. And the seller is near me.

Thanks,
Chris

Rusty · « **Reply #14 on:** May 20, 2007, 09:14:41 pm »

Chris,

From the sounds of it, its a pretty good deal. Check out this site for more info on that saw. There are some threads in the forums about the value of used saws.

ChadTower · « **Reply #15 on:** May 20, 2007, 10:00:32 pm »

I'm not as sure... I see a lot of tablesaws coming through CL, most under $200... I'm not familiar with the attachments, though, so those could add value.

The guy I bought my scroll saw from gave me some excellent advice. He told me to wait on an old Craftsman. He said he sees the really sweet old belt driven Craftsmans pop up in the $100-150 range all the time from people who only see the name and age. The older ones, according to him, are rock solid, smooth motors, cast iron tops with dead accurate fence slots, etc etc... that you can even get a really, really nice one for as low as $75 if you don't mind rehabbing it a little.

Chris G · « **Reply #16 on:** May 20, 2007, 11:09:29 pm »

I saw a ton of Craftsmans on my local CL and was balking. Maybe I'll take a closer look.

NiteWalker · « **Reply #17 on:** May 21, 2007, 06:27:16 am »

Be careful with the older craftsman table saws. They had an issue with the arbor that prevented the chippers from sitting flat with the others so dados cut with a dado stack would have uneven depths.

IMHO, the older delta or powermatic contractor saws are the best saws to look for if you want a used saw. If you carefully look they can be had for about the same (~$200).

ChadTower · « **Reply #18 on:** May 23, 2007, 09:17:30 am »

Okay, I have a guy from CL who says he has a solid working condition 10" Craftsman table saw he'll give me for $25 because he needs it out ASAP (says he upgraded and can't store both).

Quote

the model number is 113.21620
the Serial number is 90302M1916

I'm having trouble finding anything for that model, or even partial matches, except the Craftsman 21620 which is a scroll saw, apparently.

EDIT: He confirms it's not a scroll saw and says it weighs 25-30lb, which makes it a bench top. I'm trying to prod him for a pic.

EDIT2: From bobvila.com forums:

Quote

all craftsman tools that have a 113 code are made by Emerson Electric. their technical support No. is 1-800 474-3443 they often have parts that ***** no longer stock because the same parts are interchangeable with Ridged parts. example. I bought a craftsman miter gauge clamp for table saw at a yard sale, it was an exact copy of the one that ********** had in stock except the grip is red on Ridged and black on Craftsman. also Ridged parts are cheaper than those from ***** parts.

ChadTower · « **Reply #19 on:** May 27, 2007, 10:22:49 am »

Finally got pics... not too bad for the price, and a Craftsman is a solid name if you're not looking to go higher. I can start here.

I see the fence, don't see a mitre gauge. Is a mitre gauge standard or an accessory?

bfauska · « **Reply #20 on:** May 27, 2007, 02:16:51 pm »

Chad,

I noticed in the pictures that it is an 8" saw not a 10". I don't know if that will matter to you, I assume you will be using it mostly for various sheet material and won't ever need to run something more than about 2" thick through it. $25 is about cheap enough that if it works at all it is worth it I suppose. That ViceGrip wrench in the picture is replacing a knob, and while the ViceGrip is worth much more than a knob, it does mean that either the saw isn't built too sturdy or it was somehow treated in a manner that broke the knob. The rust on the ViceGrip makes me question how this guys tools are stored or treated too. I have always worked in shops with great big cabinet saws so I don't know how much of a pain it is to run full sheets of material on a saw this size, but as far as compact saws go this one looks like it has a nice sized table. As for the miter gauge, the good ones are usually sold separately, but most saws come with at least a basic one, if you have a dedicated miter saw you would probably be able to make most the cuts that this would with a miter gauge anyway, you can't get a very big piece of wood between the gauge and the blade on a table that size.

I am not sure what I'm saying as far as a recommendation, but those are the things I would consider if I were you. I wouldn't get it but I have access to fancy saws, it wouldn't be a bad choice if it was going to be someone's first and seldom used table saw.

ChadTower · « **Reply #21 on:** May 27, 2007, 03:48:22 pm »

Thanks, that pretty much mirrors my opinion. I am running out of space for tools, so I'm thinking a small tablesaw is good. For $25, I don't mind putting some effort into rehabbing it. The size of the tabletop is good. I don't mind cutting a piece roughly to size with the circular saw and then getting more exact with the tablesaw. It's belt driven, which is good, and for $25 I can replace it when I hit its limitations and not feel like I wasted money.

ChadTower · « **Reply #22 on:** May 30, 2007, 02:19:47 pm »

Haven't come to a decision on that last one... but I've also been emailing this guy. Seems like it could be a much better deal in the end, even though it costs more. Am I wrong?

NiteWalker · « **Reply #23 on:** May 30, 2007, 03:29:09 pm »

The rockwell is worth 20x that crapsman. I'd run and grab that saw.

ChadTower · « **Reply #24 on:** June 07, 2007, 09:26:28 am »

http://boston.craigslist.org/nwb/tls/346571410.html

80 miles one way.

ScottS · « **Reply #25 on:** June 07, 2007, 10:09:40 am »

Quote from: ChadTower on June 07, 2007, 09:26:28 am

http://boston.craigslist.org/nwb/tls/346571410.html

80 miles one way.

That's a benchtop saw on a flimsy steel stand. It's overpriced at $150. If you're going to spend that kind of cash, get a real belt-driven contractor's saw!

ChadTower · « **Reply #26 on:** June 07, 2007, 10:12:33 am »

So much for going for the Delta.

Good point. I was figuring the dado blade set was worth a good amount of the price.

ScottS · « **Reply #27 on:** June 07, 2007, 11:18:11 am »

Quote from: ChadTower on June 07, 2007, 10:12:33 am

So much for going for the Delta. Good point. I was figuring the dado blade set was worth a good amount of the price.

Just because it's Delta doesn't mean it isn't crap. Delta isn't known for their saw blades, so I'm not sure the dado blade set is worth much, especially if it's used. If I were going to buy a dado blade set, I'd look to either Freud or Forrest.

TroyO · « **Reply #28 on:** June 08, 2007, 06:44:06 pm »

I may have to grab this one up. I don't mind repairing and cleaning stuff up a bit. It's a full size table saw, needs a motor, which is easy enough. It also has a Bessemeyer fence with it. I've never heard of the Rexon brand, though. Anyone have input?

http://denver.craigslist.org/tls/347911522.html

ChadTower · « **Reply #29 on:** June 26, 2007, 09:44:13 am »

http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/tls/360134179.html

Hrm... that looks like a good solid cast iron top. Sure as hell no plastic or aluminum parts from a saw of that age.

fixedpigs · « **Reply #30 on:** June 26, 2007, 10:07:34 am »

Quote from: ChadTower on June 26, 2007, 09:44:13 am

http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/tls/360134179.html

Hrm... that looks like a good solid cast iron top. Sure as hell no plastic or aluminum parts from a saw of that age.

there's no way that's twenty years older than mine...
my craftsman 10" table saw was built in '66 and looks the same except for the motor and the fence rail...

i got mine free from my mom...so i suped it up with a vega pro 40 fence and an incra 1000 miter gauge...

it's a solid saw for sure...worth seventy-five bucks if you are in need of a good table saw...

(edit) here's a link to the exact same model as mine...
http://www.owwm.com/PhotoIndex/detail.asp?id=6025

ChadTower · « **Reply #31 on:** June 26, 2007, 10:09:59 am »

Yeah, I think so too, the catch being that it is nearly 40 miles away. I keep running into that.

ChadTower · « **Reply #32 on:** July 02, 2007, 11:24:20 am »

http://providence.craigslist.org/tls/364835107.html

That one is only a couple miles away... hrm...

Chris G · « **Reply #33 on:** July 02, 2007, 11:35:53 am »

The motor is "massive in girth"? Interesting description.

ChadTower · « **Reply #34 on:** July 02, 2007, 11:42:51 am »

Yeah... I keep waiting for a decent cast iron top saw to pop up within a 15 minute drive or so, just doesn't seem to be happening.

ChadTower · « **Reply #35 on:** July 02, 2007, 04:12:39 pm »

http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/tls/365121017.html

DAMMIT. That's like 80 miles away. Within 30 or so I'd be there tonight.

ChadTower · « **Reply #36 on:** July 06, 2007, 09:00:45 am »

http://providence.craigslist.org/tls/367446840.html

Okay, what are the odds these are hot?

fixedpigs · « **Reply #37 on:** July 06, 2007, 10:03:33 am »

Quote from: ChadTower on July 06, 2007, 09:00:45 am

http://providence.craigslist.org/tls/367446840.html

Okay, what are the odds these are hot?

yeah...that listing throws off a few red flags...hmm...

ChadTower · « **Reply #38 on:** July 06, 2007, 10:10:24 am »

Got a response from the guy... he says that he just moved from a house to an apt and can't store them. Maybe.

ChadTower · « **Reply #39 on:** July 06, 2007, 10:53:27 am »

So, I can head over tonight to check the stuff out... I'm not sure why I'm nervous about this one. Then again when I bought my scroll saw I had to go around the back of the guy's apartment building into the basement down the narrow stairs and it would have been a perfect setup to get mugged raped and worse. I may be too paranoid about that.


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