Question for fitness types

[patrickl]

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You must really be the devil. If you read your post count upside down it's 666!

[shorthair]

Ken: I don't eat raw meat. I like beef, like say a steak, bloody, but cooked enough to see the grain. I think raw food is the way to go...it's just not as far as I want to go (with meat). Two things I'd like to reiterate:

1. Rachel's response didn't match what I read in the book. I go by the book.

2. In my experience, a person eating according to their type doesn't have/evolves out of desires for junk food, their palette changes*, and they don't snack unless they happen to be very very active...and, even then, they tend to want food sources that will nutrify and enduringly power them. The right kind of intake will balance one's body. (This is sorta what DS is saying, though a little more sophisticated.) But, further, eating high-quality treats - which I don't even think of them as such by definition - just contributes to one's health.

3. (this is supplemental) vegetarianism and veganism can work for some. Thematically, though, if the reason for doing so has any length of foot in the 'mercy for animals' sand box, whoever's doing it has NO business doing it. I know a girl whose father was a typical anti-authoritarian, yet was ULTRA controlling in his household, and vegetarianism was one of his psychological hot buttons. To this day, she is convinced that 'mercy for animals' is a reason to be veg/vegan. But it's not. It's a reason for having better raising and processing conditions. Recently, she and I got into a brief email discussion on this. I told her, 'do the existence of GM crops make anti-GM activists tell everyone they MUST ONLY eat meat? She won't receive my email, anymore. (heheheh)


*I have some distinct advantages over many people, I think. One is I'm naturally fairly slender. Others are both environmental and genetic. We didn't have lots of money for treats an all, but my parents let me eat what I liked, as long as I ate dinner - which, except for vegetables, I ALWAYS ate dinner cos I was hungry for food...I just usually had stomach for dessert, too. My parents weren't much of drinkers, but they let me have a beer or two at grown-up parties, etc. I've never been much of a drinker, though. They drank coffee and let me drink it; by the time I was seven or eight, I was making my own as often as I wished. Quit drinking it about 15 years ago, though.

They did smoke, but I was the last one to take it up (mostly from the crowd I hung out with...I always liked a good dip of Red Man or Levi Garrett, better) and quit after five years. Haven't had a dip but a couple/few times in about as long. My parents did have their food issues. My dad has a sweet tooth. Go to the local, family-owned ice cream shop and he ALWAYS gets a butterscotch sunday with marshmallow (this stuff is thick) toping. My mom ate chocolate, particularly M&Ms. As a kid, I'd mac chocolate and candy bars. If there weren't any treats in the house, I'd go for the sugar  (another favorite of my dad's - coffee with your sugar?) bowl and a spoon! And I hated vegetables. I'll just say I had excretory problems as a kid and adolescent, to go with whatever emotional issues that invoked the sweet cravings. (Never got fat, though...we almost didn't have fat kids in school till I got to high school!...everyone PLAYED OUTSIDE most of the time.)

But for years I haven't liked sugar like that. The last several years, I love all kinds of vegies, raw.

[jbox]

I just usually had stomach for dessert, too.

[shorthair]

You know, one time I was on the way to pick up my girlfriend of the time from work. I happened to be eating some tuna in sunflower oil, when I happened upon a crushed cat in the road. See, the traffic had stopped, and almost right next to my car, there was this crushed cat, brains and guts all over the place. Well, having such an opportunity, I had to look. And I had a good long look - in-between mouthfuls of tuna. The traffic next to me then moved up and the guys in a truck passing sure gave me an odd look.

[patrickl]

Well I wondered what this was all about so I just saw a Matt Furey exercise video. That was just hilarious. Apart from the amateur video work and the amount of BS about combat in it, the guy could hardly even do his own stupid exercises. So that says to me he doesn't use them himself. He did 3 Hindu pushups and he was completely out of breath (while he claims he normally does at least 100). He did one of those handstand pushups and almost fell off the chairs. So he quit after one push up. Pfffft.

I guess if his is the only book (or rather 3 exercise pamphlet) you ever read then it might make an impression on you, but for the rest of us ...

[Chris G]

You know, one time I was on the way to pick up my girlfriend of the time from work. I happened to be eating some tuna in sunflower oil, when I happened upon a crushed cat in the road. See, the traffic had stopped, and almost right next to my car, there was this crushed cat, brains and guts all over the place. Well, having such an opportunity, I had to look. And I had a good long look - in-between mouthfuls of tuna. The traffic next to me then moved up and the guys in a truck passing sure gave me an odd look.

For some reason, this one is funny to me this morning.


.... and then I see jbox's contribution.

[ChadTower]

For Christ's sake, such a huge debate over such a simple thing:

Do more, eat less.

Boom.

[Chris G]

Saw this article in the newspaper today.  Basically it's talking about how fat can be stored internally, so even if you're thin externally, you can have potentially dangerous fat deposits surrounding your vital organs.  Maybe I should rethink my pizza obsession after all...

My boss has the worst diet I've ever seen.  He recently had a cardio heart scan taken that showed that his arteries are completely clear.  He's taken that, plus his thin frame, to mean he can eat whatever the hell he wants.  I've always thought he's the type of guy that's just going to randomly keel over some day out of the blue before he even hits 50.

[shorthair]

Yes, the internal organs are the most important.

patrickl: I haven't seen any of the videos. I don't need to watch first. I just do them. Try them, then come back.

Check out this short video of Karl Gotch, who trained Furey (after Furey won the gold medal in China in shiao chau) :

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0GVGdza7k1I

[patrickl]

Well it looked like a circus act. The point is, if he cannot do them himself (and thus obviously does not use them), how serious can you take his claims that they work?

There is no bloody way that I'm going to do a handstand on a couple of chairs and then do pushups. They should put that nut in jail for even suggesting something as ludicrous as that. I'll go to a gym rather than breaking my neck thank you very much.

[DrewKaree]

Well it looked like a circus act. They should put that nut in jail for even suggesting something as ludicrous as that. I'll go to a gym rather than breaking my neck thank you very much.

For some reason, I get the feeling you're not a convert

[shorthair]

Going below your head level in a hand-stand push-up is hard. Though, of course, it's an inconvenient situation, too, which is why I just use a wall and the ground. Easy. And, yeah, most people are chicken about going into a hand-stand. I was a little leary the first time round, as it'd been MANY years since I'd done that. But, before long, I was doing 5 or 6 sets of 10 or 12 push-ups, in-between other exercises. But those aren't part of the royal court. They're supplemental. You're avoiding the point.

[shorthair]

Buddabing, here's a freebie, from Furey's blog:

Samurai Deep Breathing
'Deep breathing alone has made many a weak man strong
and many a sick man well.'

These words come from the immortal teachings of Martin
'Farmer' Burns in his 1914 by-mail course, 'Lessons in
Wrestling and Physical Culture' - available at
http://www.mattfurey.com/farmerburns.html - but they
could have just as easily come from the ancient Samurai of
Japan - or the old-time Jiu-Jitsu masters.

For example, in a 1911 book on Japanese exercise methods
that I read many years ago, I recorded the following:

'The ancient samurai was accustomed to going out
into the open air as soon as he rose in the morning. There he
devoted at least 10 or 15 minutes to continued deep breathing,
standing with his hands on his hips in order that he might feel
the play of his muscles.'

Breathing in the open air was also recommended by Farmer Burns
as well early American fitness pioneers such as Charles Atlas, Bernarr
MacFadden and Paul Bragg. These men truly knew what they were
talking about.

Today, in most fitness programs taught around the world, deep breathing
is practically ignored. This is a major mistake as, to quote one of my former
teachers, 'Your breath is your power.'

You can tell a lot about a person simply by observing how he or she breathes.
In fact, I believe you can map out the structure of how the person lives life.
Shallow breathers tend to be shallow people. Deep breathers tend to be
interested in far more than the superficial.

The sound a person makes when breathing, especially while exercising, is
also revealing. Does he or she have a problem with being seen or heard? You'll
know by whether or not you can hear the person breathing. Does this person
breathe in a way that says, 'life is a struggle' - or in a way that shows how
they simply 'flow?'

Maybe you've never paid much attention to the subject of deep breathing
before. For the first 25 years of my life I didn't either. Yet, I assure you,
life is much better when you're in tune with how you breathe.

Pay attention to your breathing. Make sure it is deep and full.

Spend 10-15 minutes per day working on it. You can do so while
performing the exercises in Combat Abs [for more about them go to
http://www.mattfurey.com/combat_abs.html ] - which are part deep
breathing and part abdominal flexing. You can make time for them
throughout the day, especially when you feel like you need a 'breather.'

During those moments, never forget, your breath is your power.

[DrewKaree]

Seriously, I wasn't snoring.  I was simply testing out my super powers

[shorthair]

What are you talking about? That is your super power. Of course, as you're unconscious when using it, you don't really know that your super name is, Thunder Snoot!

[DrewKaree]

Your prattling simply strengthens me, mortal.

[shorthair]

Yeah, keep on runnin. (You know, folks, that this is really a carnal affair of a bizarre kind.)

[DrewKaree]

[shorthair]

Hey, I like that one. Cats are keen creatures.

[shorthair]

Here's a simple kick----smurfing----ass routine:


Exercises That Burn Fat Fast
Children are naturally flexible. And they have boundless
energy. In fact, when PROFESSIONAL athletes have tried
to keep up with a child, they get exhausted within an hour.
Literally and truly.

Before my daughter hit the crawl stage, she had to do
baby pushups - not to mention a lot of back hyper-
extensions. In order to achieve the sit-up-in-bed stage,
she had to do a lot of leg lifts and knee pullins. One of her
favorite exercises was the army crawl. That one whoops
most adults within a few seconds.

After army crawls come bear crawls. Oh yes, one of my
favorites for torturing people into great shape fast.

Bear crawls are one of the most overlooked bodyweight
exercises - and if you take a minute a day - well, maybe
more like 30 seconds to crawl like a bear - believe you me,
results are a coming down the pike.

After bear crawls flip over for a bit of crab walking, and
you've virtually hit every muscle in the body, except the neck.

Now let's look at the three crawls already mentioned - and other
assorted exercises in my books and weave a fat-burning workout
around them:

1. Baby pushups - hips and legs on floor - push off palms, lower
and repeat
2. Army crawls - 10-20 seconds
3. Leg lifts - 10-20 to start
4. Leg pull-ins - 10-20
5. Bear crawls - 30 seconds
6. Crab walks - 10-20 seconds
7. Get-ups - lie on back and come to standing - 10x -
this fine exercise is one that I specifically emphasized for the
80 and 90-year old men and women I trained at my gym in
California. - Very important.

So you see, even the most basic things we do as a child can
be turned into a kick-butt workout, using nothing more than
your own bodyweight.

And the sky is NOT the limit. It can go on and on and on - so
that you are always challenged.

By the way, babies also know how to breathe properly. They
do it naturally, right out of the gate. Because babies breathe
deeply, they have more energy, laugh all the time and have
a great time while exploring and learning from their new world.

[patrickl]

You should seek a career in door to door selling.

[shorthair]

You should seek a career in door to door selling.

hahahah. That's what the net is for. And this is an example, cos this is from one of Furey's e-letters. But, no, I'm not interested in marketing. As evidenced in my ideas in training people, self-publishing an old philosophical treatise, as well as a personally cast and produced quality (meaning actual intimacy between the cast members) adult site, an innate intent of mine is to provide free service.