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Author Topic: YOUTUBE: Greatest Moments in Pro Wrestling  (Read 7006 times)

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Re: YOUTUBE: Greatest Moments in Pro Wrestling
« Reply #40 on: April 20, 2007, 04:33:29 pm »

CZW mostly sucks but some talent has made appearances there... keep an eye on Chris Hero, the guy is good.

I've seen Chris Hero at a local promotion in Pittsburgh a few times, he always puts on a good match.



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Re: YOUTUBE: Greatest Moments in Pro Wrestling
« Reply #41 on: April 20, 2007, 04:41:46 pm »
The promo that officially turned The Ringmaster into Stone Cold Steve Austin.



In his prime and when he was sober, Jake The Snake was one of the best.  Even drunk he could cut a better promo than 90% of the wrestlers today.

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Re: YOUTUBE: Greatest Moments in Pro Wrestling
« Reply #42 on: April 20, 2007, 05:13:42 pm »
Is anyone else irritated by videos that have Linkin Park playing in the background.

As if that song makes everything cooler.  ::)

Yes. I hate that music.


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Re: YOUTUBE: Greatest Moments in Pro Wrestling
« Reply #43 on: April 20, 2007, 05:17:35 pm »
In his prime and when he was sober, Jake The Snake was one of the best.  Even drunk he could cut a better promo than 90% of the wrestlers today.

I was at an iMPACT taping in October where Jake showed up unannounced. The crowd popped huge for him.  Then he started talking.  He was incoherent, kept losing his place, twice ended up lying down and couldn't get back up, and eventually put the snake in Spike Dudley's pants.  He was so pathetic the crowd, which was otherwise on fire all night because it was Angle's TNA debut taping, was completely silent trying to deal with what they just saw Jake had become.

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Re: YOUTUBE: Greatest Moments in Pro Wrestling
« Reply #44 on: April 20, 2007, 05:27:31 pm »
I have seen several reports of his false teeth falling out at indy events.  :laugh2:


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Re: YOUTUBE: Greatest Moments in Pro Wrestling
« Reply #45 on: April 20, 2007, 07:01:37 pm »
I suppose you guy's preferences are tainted by nostalgia.  Behold... the undisputed greatest match in wrestling history. 

80's wrestling is nice, but aside from some great exceptions, it was mostly a decade of fat slow guys fake punching each other in facepaint.  ;)

What .....blasphemy.


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Re: YOUTUBE: Greatest Moments in Pro Wrestling
« Reply #46 on: April 20, 2007, 07:09:24 pm »

Maybe in the WWF... the 80s was the decade of the Four Horsemen.

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Re: YOUTUBE: Greatest Moments in Pro Wrestling
« Reply #47 on: April 20, 2007, 11:02:06 pm »
You guys kill me. 

Yes the Four Horsemen...  great faction (yawn) it consisted of Rick Flair and whatver 3 random scrub wrestlers they could scrounge up at the time (depending upon the incarnation).  Again this a nostalgia thing.  Sure rick (and only rick) had some great mike skills and rick (and only rick) can really wrestle, but all-in-all there was nothing lasting from the horsemen other than the concept of the faction.  The faction concept revolves around the fact that you can take one guy that can really wrestle or has really good mike skills and hae him carry several lesser wrestlers. 

*sigh*  Some people mis the point about the hell in a cell match and Mick Foley.  The violence is only 1/3 of the match.  A base of real, actual, fundamental wrestling skills (i.e.  NOT hardcore wrestling) and a real, unique character with a back-story and decent mike skills are the other two thirds.  In HIAC the amazing part was the real wrestling moves used after poor old mick fell through the cage and the undertaker jumped down, fracturing his already broken foot even more.  So you have a one-legged man fighting a guy literally knocked silly and they STILL manage to give 5-10 min of fundamentals instead of just fake punching each other or ending the match. 

As I said, undisputed gretest match ever..... that is for true wrestling fans that never stopped watching instead of casual "I watched some in the 80's and again in the 90's"  band-wagon jumpers. 

There aren't many wrestlers out there that can wrestle hardcore AND can wrestle traditionally AND have a solid character with a rich history AND can actually entertain just by talking.  Mick and the Undertaker are probably the only two actually, which is why this match turned out so well.  That, along with some bad luck for Mr Foley and old pros like Terry Funk, who had sense enough to stall and thus enrich the story while Mick recovered. 

Now sure there are a lot of wrestlers out there that can do 1 of the 4 often they can do 1 of the 4 much better than these individuals, but nobody has the total package like they do. 

Just to give a run-down of some of the "greats"  and why they aren't as good. 

Hulk Hogan/ The Rock/ Stone Cold  ... One dimensional characters which are wildy popular and yet very limiting (which is why the WWE "rotated" such uber characters so the fans didn't get sick of them.)  Their wrestling ability is severely limited... in the case of HH he couldn't wrestle his way out of a paper bag. 

Chris Benoit / Bret Heart / Lance storm ect...  No personality what-so-ever.  They've all put on some of the greatest wrestling clinics in the history of the business, but outside of uber wrestling nerds, remember these bouts because there's no back-story to inject emotion into the match and all parties mentioned have about as much personality as a greasy spot on the mat. 

Giant Gonzales / Kevin Nash / Yokozuna ect.... Pure gimmicks.  These men either have great presence, great size or both.  Their wrestling abilitiy is limited and their mike skills often aren't so great.  (nash being an obvious exception).  They usually spend one week wrestling followed by 6 months in rehab from pulling something. 


Ultimate Warrior / Macho Man / Lex Luger / Coco beware ect...  Okay this is gonna hurt but somebody needs to tell you this.  These guys suck!  They can't wrestle, they have rather stupid characters, and all-in-all they had a career based on a catch phrase.  The reason you loved them so much and have such fond memories of them is because you were 6 at the time.  ;)  You'll still love them, I do, but you have to admit to yourself that they suck and all their matches also sucked.

I could go on but the point is "total package" wrestlers are rare, getting two in the same ring is rarer and getting them to pull off a gimmick match is rarer still.  HIAC was somethign that shouldn't be possible, and it'll never happen again.




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Re: YOUTUBE: Greatest Moments in Pro Wrestling
« Reply #48 on: April 20, 2007, 11:16:27 pm »
Howard, I never thought I'd see you wax poetic about pro wrestling.   :laugh2:

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Re: YOUTUBE: Greatest Moments in Pro Wrestling
« Reply #49 on: April 21, 2007, 12:05:45 am »
I got to agree with Howard_Casto
on this one.
The Undertaker vs. Mankind (Mick Foley)
Hell In The Cell match was/is the greatest
wrestling show ever.
To be honest every match after that has
barely kept me awake.

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Re: YOUTUBE: Greatest Moments in Pro Wrestling
« Reply #50 on: April 21, 2007, 11:08:09 am »
You guys kill me. 





Just to give a run-down of some of the "greats"  and why they aren't as good. 

Hulk Hogan/ The Rock/ Stone Cold  ... One dimensional characters which are wildy popular and yet very limiting (which is why the WWE "rotated" such uber characters so the fans didn't get sick of them.)  Their wrestling ability is severely limited... in the case of HH he couldn't wrestle his way out of a paper bag. 




More  blasphemy

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Re: YOUTUBE: Greatest Moments in Pro Wrestling
« Reply #51 on: April 21, 2007, 04:43:54 pm »
Yes the Four Horsemen...  great faction (yawn) it consisted of Rick Flair and whatver 3 random scrub wrestlers they could scrounge up at the time (depending upon the incarnation).  Again this a nostalgia thing.  Sure rick (and only rick) had some great mike skills and rick (and only rick) can really wrestle, but all-in-all there was nothing lasting from the horsemen other than the concept of the faction.  The faction concept revolves around the fact that you can take one guy that can really wrestle or has really good mike skills and hae him carry several lesser wrestlers.

Most blasphemy.  If Arn and Ole Anderson saw this, they'd probably turn you into ground beef.

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Re: YOUTUBE: Greatest Moments in Pro Wrestling
« Reply #52 on: April 21, 2007, 07:38:32 pm »

Arn Anderson and Tully Blanchard are two of the greatest ring workers in this history of pro wrestling.  Ole Anderson was just old school badass.  And Arn Anderson is at least as good on the mic as Ric Flair and possibly better.  Most modern wrestlers aspire to be Flair in the ring and Arn Anderson on the mic.

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Re: YOUTUBE: Greatest Moments in Pro Wrestling
« Reply #53 on: April 22, 2007, 01:42:03 am »
And for the record, UT vs Mankind HIAC, best match evAr FTW!

But how can we all forget...



Thats when he jumped ship from WCW to WWF.  When this happened Monday Night RAW was HUGE at my college campus.  This one moment stands out in my mind, listen to the crowd pop at about 1:19 into the vid, then listen to them turn on him less than 2 minutes later. 

Oh, and one more moment that stands out in my mind is when SCSA, The Rock, Mankind, + Vince (The corporation?) teamed up against the UT and his ministry of darkness.  Just cant find a vid of that one...




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Re: YOUTUBE: Greatest Moments in Pro Wrestling
« Reply #54 on: April 22, 2007, 09:43:32 am »

Man, I'd forgotten how badly Jericho was blowing that promo until the Rock saved him.   :laugh2:  The only man in the history of wrestling who could control a crowd like the Rock is probably Vince himself.

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Re: YOUTUBE: Greatest Moments in Pro Wrestling
« Reply #55 on: April 24, 2007, 05:22:04 pm »
Yes the Four Horsemen...  great faction (yawn) it consisted of Rick Flair and whatver 3 random scrub wrestlers they could scrounge up at the time (depending upon the incarnation).  Again this a nostalgia thing.  Sure rick (and only rick) had some great mike skills and rick (and only rick) can really wrestle, but all-in-all there was nothing lasting from the horsemen other than the concept of the faction.  The faction concept revolves around the fact that you can take one guy that can really wrestle or has really good mike skills and hae him carry several lesser wrestlers.

Most blasphemy.  If Arn and Ole Anderson saw this, they'd probably turn you into ground beef.

Agreed.  Talk about a lack of respect for your peers!   

The Four Horsemen were the greatest stable in the history of pro wrestling.  Granted, once they started to rotate that 4th guy it did get kinda weak.  But Tully, Arn, Ric and Ole were amazing as a group.

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Re: YOUTUBE: Greatest Moments in Pro Wrestling
« Reply #56 on: April 24, 2007, 05:27:34 pm »
And for the record, UT vs Mankind HIAC, best match evAr FTW!

But how can we all forget...



Thats when he jumped ship from WCW to WWF.  When this happened Monday Night RAW was HUGE at my college campus.  This one moment stands out in my mind, listen to the crowd pop at about 1:19 into the vid, then listen to them turn on him less than 2 minutes later. 

Oh, and one more moment that stands out in my mind is when SCSA, The Rock, Mankind, + Vince (The corporation?) teamed up against the UT and his ministry of darkness.  Just cant find a vid of that one...





See, this is the kinda stuff that drove me from wrestling.  The fireworks.  The rap music.  The big screen.  Chris Jehrico - who the ---fudgesicle--- is that and why am I supposed to care?!?   I feel old after that rant.  :(

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Re: YOUTUBE: Greatest Moments in Pro Wrestling
« Reply #57 on: April 24, 2007, 05:42:40 pm »
Aaaah.  Two of my all-time favs going at it:



The Midnight Express vs. The Road Warriors

Ah, he of the Educated Feet - Sweet Stan Lane.

RIP, Hawk.  RIP.  :(
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Re: YOUTUBE: Greatest Moments in Pro Wrestling
« Reply #58 on: April 24, 2007, 05:50:01 pm »
Here's some NWA/Horsemen greatness!



Original Four Horsemen vs. Dusty, Nikita and The Road Warriors

Friggin' Dusty.  What a mess but he could perform!

Man, Hawk could get up there on those Drop Kicks!

Sigh. . . That, my friends, is Pro Wrestling.   :)

Unfortunately, it's also just part of a match.  WTF people?!?  :(
« Last Edit: April 24, 2007, 05:58:15 pm by Texasmame »

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Re: YOUTUBE: Greatest Moments in Pro Wrestling
« Reply #59 on: April 26, 2007, 03:52:38 pm »
You guys all have it wrong: the greatest moment in wrestling history is this:


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Re: YOUTUBE: Greatest Moments in Pro Wrestling
« Reply #60 on: April 26, 2007, 08:04:30 pm »
Who is that??
I am going to have to start watching wrestling more often!!

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Re: YOUTUBE: Greatest Moments in Pro Wrestling
« Reply #61 on: April 26, 2007, 08:22:49 pm »

She isn't a wrestler anymore.

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Re: YOUTUBE: Greatest Moments in Pro Wrestling
« Reply #62 on: April 26, 2007, 11:14:53 pm »
Stacey Keibler dude. After I saw that picture, I had to go look for some more pictures. Definitely the best set of legs and bootie I've ever laid eyes on. FYI, I posted  some over in the cheesecake thread.

Anyways, in a few of the pictures it looked like her bobs are bigger. Did she get a boob job?? If so, she went to just the right size. ;D

Note: Stacey is the only female celebrity I will admit to the wife that I have a thing for - after seeing Dancing with the Stars last year, she doesn't blame me. :laugh2: