North Carolina DMV and court system sucks

[DrewKaree]

I'm getting my CDL, and after passing my tests today (I was sweating it after studying for so friggen much - for me!), they tell me "before we can issue you your license, you have something in NC that has to be taken care of.  Until that's off there, we can't issue it".  DOH!

Big friggen hassle where they don't even show ANYTHING for me when I call NCDMV.  Turns out a ticket I got when I lived there wasn't handled properly.  In my state, if you pay the ticket, it's considered pleading guilty, and you go on with your day.  I didn't realize in NC, you need to show up if your payment isn't sent by some certain date, so my friggen ticket is PAID, but I'm considered a "Failed To Appear" for the court date, and I'm charged with court costs.  Having moved, I never got any info about it, and didn't think twice about it. 

Now, thanks to that, they send the info on to the DMV and my driving priveledges are suspended in NC.  Big whoop, right?  Wrong.  I've now gotta pay a reinstatement fee to the DMV, and I've gotta send court costs, all to have this removed from my record and get my CDL issued to me over an 8-year old speeding ticket.

At least now I can get my driver's license in NC again

Nice expensive lesson learned.  Thanks for listening. 

[Harry Potter]

Next time, take the train.

[Donkey_Kong]

Reminds me of driving through Wisconsin. I never get out of that stae without a ticket. Damn Cheesheads are corrupt I tell you. Did you know that one time in Wisconny they nailed me speeding on I-94. My ticket was for like $220. Do you know how they took payment for that? A credit card on the spot...yep thats right State Trooper has a credit card machine in his car and wouldn't let me go till I whipped out my Visa.

Your NC story sucks but I'm just sayin...Cheesland ain't a whole lot better! Anyway...(end rant here)

 

[Harry Potter]

wouldn't let me go till I whipped out my Visa.

You named yours after a credit card?

[Donkey_Kong]

wouldn't let me go till I whipped out my Visa.

You named yours after a credit card?

Big Johnson has become to cliche.

Congrats on the CDL. Will they let you back on the Riding Lawnmower with that?

[Harry Potter]

Yeah but dude, naming it after something thin and seeing as it's you, probably has a tiny credit limit. 

[Donkey_Kong]

Yeah but dude, naming it after something thin and seeing as it's you, probably has a tiny credit limit. 

Lets just all be happy that he didn't have to whip out his visa 

[Harry Potter]

I think this thread's been derailed far enough.... 

[DrewKaree]

I think this thread's been derailed far enough.... 

That implies it was on the rails to begin with.

Konkey Dong, $220?  I once got a ticket for around that amount for speeding as well.  I know about how much you were going over the limit.  Shut yer trap - you got busted fair and square, just like I did.

I'm not arguing about the cops, it's the DMV and the court system. 

As for "not letting you go", that ain't true.  That's called "holding you hostage", and it's inaccurate or missing info.  You more than likely would have had to post a bond or be taken back to a substation to sign a personal recognizance bond since you had out-of-state plates. 

We're talking apples and....you wanting to tell us about your Schwartz.

Oh, and they'll ALWAYS let me on the mowerzez, but now I get to haul truckloads of mowerzez or - my purpose for this - double my pay by switching career paths.

[Donkey_Kong]

I think this thread's been derailed far enough.... 

That implies it was on the rails to begin with.

Konkey Dong, $220?  I once got a ticket for around that amount for speeding as well.  I know about how much you were going over the limit.  Shut yer trap - you got busted fair and square, just like I did.

I'm not arguing about the cops, it's the DMV and the court system. 

As for "not letting you go", that ain't true.  That's called "holding you hostage", and it's inaccurate or missing info.  You more than likely would have had to post a bond or be taken back to a substation to sign a personal recognizance bond since you had out-of-state plates. 

We're talking apples and....you wanting to tell us about your Schwartz.

Oh, and they'll ALWAYS let me on the mowerzez, but now I get to haul truckloads of mowerzez or - my purpose for this - double my pay by switching career paths.

Double pay is good. I feel sorry for those asshats that are losing you and don't know how to run there computers...Losers!

"Don't know whach-ya got.......till it's gone..."

Congrats again on the CDL. That is a cool thing to have but quit busting my balls about speeding through your state. Cheesland cops are teh sux.

[grundle]

I'm not arguing about the cops, it's the DMV and the court system. 

I like to argue about cops.  I got a ticket in North Carolina for going 75 in a 70.  I had out of state tags, so I guess that's like a big bullseye.  Cost of the ticket was $83.  It was a $3 fine and $80 in court costs.  Even if I was found not guilty, I would have to pay the court costs, so I would save myself $3 by appearing. (At least that's what the cop told me, maybe he just didn't want me to show up)

How can they charge court costs if you're found not guilty?  Well, traffic court goes by a different set of rules, I guess.  You're definitely not considered innocent until proven guilty by a court of law.

[ChadTower]

Yeah but dude, naming it after something thin and seeing as it's you, probably has a tiny credit limit. 

Yeah but dude, it's everywhere you wanna be.

grundle, stop yer whining.  I got an RI ticket for going 20 in a 15.

[tommy]

  I didn't realize in NC, you need to show up if your payment isn't sent by some certain date, so my friggen ticket is PAID, but I'm considered a "Failed To Appear"

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If only you spent more time learning the laws in your own state instead of being here all damn day and night... 

[Harry Potter]

Or for that matter, learning how to use the quote marks.

[ChadTower]

He's still doesn't realize the helmet they make him wear is not a fashion statement.   Let him be.

[Harry Potter]

 

[tommy]

It "musta" been a system malfunction of the forums. 

[DrewKaree]

I'm not arguing about the cops, it's the DMV and the court system. 

I like to argue about cops.  I got a ticket in North Carolina for going 75 in a 70.  I had out of state tags, so I guess that's like a big bullseye.  Cost of the ticket was $83.  It was a $3 fine and $80 in court costs.  Even if I was found not guilty, I would have to pay the court costs, so I would save myself $3 by appearing. (At least that's what the cop told me, maybe he just didn't want me to show up)

How can they charge court costs if you're found not guilty?  Well, traffic court goes by a different set of rules, I guess.  You're definitely not considered innocent until proven guilty by a court of law.

That's the exact same thing I wasn't understanding, and the reason for the mess I'm currently in.  It's not actually the cops that are at fault there, it's the court system and that it's the friggen law about the court costs. 

As for tommy the dope, I don't expect him to do the math, but I'll lay it out so that even a 3rd grader should be able to get it.  Someone get their 3rd grader to translate it for tommy, because that's the lowest common denominator I can dumb this down to.

Tommy, are you following along?  Good!

I lived in NC, and had this speeding ticket in 2000. 

Go to my profile and look for my first post. 

Write down the year of that first post.

Now subtract 2000 from that year.

Now wait for the 3rd grader to come along and explain what all those things mean.

Also, lay out the laws of your state tommy.  Surely with the few hours you spend here, and the evidently pamphlet-sized book of law in your state you can break it down to us in less than a paragraph.  Or else you were trying to make a joke. 

If it's the latter (again, have the 3rd grader assplain that one to you), in the future please try to run your "jokes" past someone here who's funny so that you can learn what funny is via repeated beatings with a rubber hose.

[tommy]

No way! Drew can't take a good ribbing without flipping his lid? 

If that's the case btw, you should just delete your byoac account right now and be on your way.

[DrewKaree]

No way! Drew can't take a good ribbing without flipping his lid? 

If that's the case btw, you should just delete your byoac account right now and be on your way.

I tried that.  Turns out somebody snagged it up and changed the name to "tommy" and is now making a bigger ass of himself than I could have ever dreamed of doing.

Who knew?

[tommy]

Oh, i see what you did there... you turned the thing right around on me didn't you. 

[CheffoJeffo]

Oh, i see what you did there... you turned the thing right around on me didn't you. 

The fact that your original idea somehow passed you by and you couldn't pull something out of your ass to save it does seem funny to me.

[DrewKaree]

Oh, i see what you did there... you turned the thing right around on me didn't you. 

The fact that your original idea somehow passed you by and you couldn't pull something out of your ass to save it does seem funny to me.

 

These get better and better as the day goes by!

[CheffoJeffo]

Oh, i see what you did there... you turned the thing right around on me didn't you. 

The fact that your original idea somehow passed you by and you couldn't pull something out of your ass to save it does seem funny to me.

 

These get better and better as the day goes by!

Don't be silly, you have no chance

[missioncontrol]

I'm not arguing about the cops, it's the DMV and the court system. 

I like to argue about cops.  I got a ticket in North Carolina for going 75 in a 70.  I had out of state tags, so I guess that's like a big bullseye.  Cost of the ticket was $83.  It was a $3 fine and $80 in court costs.  Even if I was found not guilty, I would have to pay the court costs, so I would save myself $3 by appearing. (At least that's what the cop told me, maybe he just didn't want me to show up)

How can they charge court costs if you're found not guilty?  Well, traffic court goes by a different set of rules, I guess.  You're definitely not considered innocent until proven guilty by a court of law.

I'm in NC and it's not the out of state tags that got you the ticket.... it's the fact that cops here are ---Deutsche Frankfurters---.... I've seen them hiding out right where the speed limit is reduced waiting to catch the poor ---smurf--- who missed the sign... Happened to me one night even... cop said he was looking for drunk drivers, yeah right.... I was on my way INTO town going to work (3rd shift)... wouldn't he be more interested stopping the people leaving the town limits, considering the bars are in town....

Yeah and even if you are innocent you still pay court fines.... It's all a money racket here....


EDIT: Guess I should say it's the State Troopers in NC who are ---Deutsche Frankfurters---.... City and County cops are much nicer..

[ChadTower]

Apparently mission has had run ins with all types of cop.   

[DrewKaree]

EDIT: Guess I should say it's the State Troopers in NC who are ---Deutsche Frankfurters---.... City and County cops are much nicer..

Agreed on that point.  I've got a Raleigh cop and a Durham cop for friends.  Both of 'em nice guys.  Ticket came from a trooper.  The Raleigh cop buddy even says troopers are ---Deutsche Frankfurters---, although for not participating in what I see to be dishonest - looking the other way or issuing a warning when pulling over a "fellow officer of the law".

Meh...it if weren't for my buddies, according to whatever the state law in NC is, I'd have had to PAY an ADDITIONAL 11 bucks and add 2 weeks (minimum) for a copy of my driving record to be mailed back to me, after which time I'd then have to call the DMV up to get all this info sorted and figure out who to pay. 

Yeah, check that.  No need for a driver's license, but I've gotta pay $50 to reinstate something I never had, and to find out just what the heck was the issue, another $11.  Mission, you ain't lyin' about it being a money racket.

[FrizzleFried]

I've gotten 2 tickets thrown out because the cop didn't show when I fought it.  The key to success is to NEVER go to the first scheduled court date but instead call in an get an extension.  Cops get their court dates scheduled all on a single day so they can go in and fight all those who are fighting their ticket.  When you change that date it screws em all up and they, many times, don't appear.  If the cop doesn't appear and you fight the ticket,  you win (in most cases).  w00t!

 

[missioncontrol]

I've gotten 2 tickets thrown out because the cop didn't show when I fought it.  The key to success is to NEVER go to the first scheduled court date but instead call in an get an extension.  Cops get their court dates scheduled all on a single day so they can go in and fight all those who are fighting their ticket.  When you change that date it screws em all up and they, many times, don't appear.  If the cop doesn't appear and you fight the ticket,  you win (in most cases).  w00t!

 

but as was posted above, in NC it really doesn't matter if you win or lose, you still have to pay the court fees... The fine is usually a couple of dollars... the court fees is about 90% of the total ticket cost...