childhood memories - destroyed!

[btp2k2]

Beware....this thread is not for the weak of heart...this is a tale of much woe.

In the last two weeks, I have been completely devastated by the realization that two of my most treasured childhood memories are nothing more than garbage.

I was at work a few weeks ago, and mentioned to a friend that a new Robotech movie came out on DVD and we got to talking about it. Robotech came out when I was about 11, and I remember it being absolutely AMAZING. Jet fighters transforming into giant robots and then fighting aliens that are just as big, and all this cool stuff in space, etc....Well, my buddy mentions that he has the entire series on DVD and he would lend them to me. I had never seen the "Robotech Masters" or "The New Generation", so I was excited to see them....the next day I find a stack of about 15 DVDs on my desk. Over the course of the next two weeks, I watched each disk (It helps when you work 12 hours during the night and have the entire week off)....each disk got worse and worse, the story getting thinner and thinner, the characters becoming more and more annoying. I could bare no more. It was true.....the great Robotech was nothing more than a steaming pile of crap.

Then...to make matters worse....I got a movie in the mail friday. I was so excited, because I had not seen this movie since I was 6 when it came out in the theater and I loved it at the time....So, I sat down with a bowl of popcorn and popped in "The Black Hole". Ugh. I nearly crapped my pants it was so awful. From the piano wires to the guys floating in space without a space suit or any form of oxygen....

Dear God WHY!!!!!

Oh well....at least Tron still kicks ass!

[Chris G]

I can sympathize - I was just informed in the other movie post that Flash Gordon is actually a crappy movie.  I intend to preserve my childhood memories by not watching it again.

[MikeQ]

kinda the same with Star Wars for me.

I liked Episode 4 and 5.  I was 10 when 4 came out, 13 when 5 came out.  The 3 years between movies was the longest 3 years of my life.  When Return of the Jedi came along, I was 16.  Lucas had to add those damn ewoks and go all cuties with the movie.  Everyone of the movies after that was crap.  I hate what Star Wars became.  I just relish the memories of 4 and 5.  I try to pretend the rest never happened.

[btp2k2]

Speaking of Star Wars....does anyone listen to Stern on Sirus?

He was destroying Lucas for the sham that SW turned out to be. It was very funny.

Something about quit trying give famous people cameos and writing a decent script. And then he called him a joke

[MikeQ]

Speaking of Star Wars....does anyone listen to Stern on Sirus?

He was destroying Lucas for the sham that SW turned out to be. It was very funny.

Something about quit trying give famous people cameos and writing a decent script. And then he called him a joke

Lucas did wonders for the special effects and the visuals but as a story teller he's not so good.

Not a very bright business man either.  He sold Pixar to Steve Jobs for 10 million.  Disney bought it for 7.4 billion.

[Chris G]

Lucas did wonders for the special effects and the visuals but as a story teller he's not so good.

Not a very bright business man either.  He sold Pixar to Steve Jobs for 10 million.  Disney bought it for 7.4 billion.

Right or wrong, I've always heard Lucas being heralded as the "master story teller".  In terms of business sense, I gotta at least give him credit for insisting on the big stake in the toy sales.

What pissed me off was how long he held off making the movies available on DVD, then when he did, he screwed around with them all.  I'm glad they released the original versions finally.

[btp2k2]

I have the re-released DVDs with the original versions....*Not* impressed....In the original version of New Hope, there are still scenes from the "Special Edition". For example, there is a scene in the SE with the land speeder coming over the top of the screen and heading for the outskirts of Mos Eisley. It appears in the original version on the re-release.....very disappointing...just to make sure it wasn't in the actual orginal, I popped in my VHS version from 1992 and sure enough....the scene wasn't there.

[boykster]

I have the re-released DVDs with the original versions....*Not* impressed....In the original version of New Hope, there are still scenes from the "Special Edition". For example, there is a scene in the SE with the land speeder coming over the top of the screen and heading for the outskirts of Mos Eisley. It appears in the original version on the re-release.....very disappointing...just to make sure it wasn't in the actual orginal, I popped in my VHS version from 1992 and sure enough....the scene wasn't there.

you sure you popped in disc2?  The re-re-re-re-released "original" versions have 2 discs....disc1 is the SE version, disc 2 is the original.


EDIT:

darn, you're right.  I just checked my episode 4 (disc2) and you're absolutely correct, the transition from the scene where they're up on the cliff/hill overlooking mos eisley has the "flyover" transition scene that is an obvious digital re-master / add-in.

 

[danny_galaga]

I have the re-released DVDs with the original versions....*Not* impressed....In the original version of New Hope, there are still scenes from the "Special Edition". For example, there is a scene in the SE with the land speeder coming over the top of the screen and heading for the outskirts of Mos Eisley. It appears in the original version on the re-release.....very disappointing...just to make sure it wasn't in the actual orginal, I popped in my VHS version from 1992 and sure enough....the scene wasn't there.

you sure you popped in disc2?  The re-re-re-re-released "original" versions have 2 discs....disc1 is the SE version, disc 2 is the original.


EDIT:

darn, you're right.  I just checked my episode 4 (disc2) and you're absolutely correct, the transition from the scene where they're up on the cliff/hill overlooking mos eisley has the "flyover" transition scene that is an obvious digital re-master / add-in.

 

ah, godammit! i got that set too. i didnt even notice that discrepancy. i was just so happy to see the movie with no 'episode IV, new hope' crap in the title...

[RayB]

Oh well....at least Tron still kicks ass!

Um... no.

[BobbyG66]

I loved the movie Space Balls.
Watched it again and it did not seem as funny.
Maybe I was in a bad mood or something...

Sure, there are some great lines and some funny moments.
I was going to buy the DVD, but now I am glad I just rented it...

[Buddabing]

I have the re-released DVDs with the original versions....*Not* impressed....In the original version of New Hope, there are still scenes from the "Special Edition". For example, there is a scene in the SE with the land speeder coming over the top of the screen and heading for the outskirts of Mos Eisley. It appears in the original version on the re-release.....very disappointing...just to make sure it wasn't in the actual orginal, I popped in my VHS version from 1992 and sure enough....the scene wasn't there.

My only question is: Did Han shoot first on the re-released DVDs?

[clanggedin]

Lucas did wonders for the special effects and the visuals but as a story teller he's not so good.

Not a very bright business man either.  He sold Pixar to Steve Jobs for 10 million.  Disney bought it for 7.4 billion.

Back in the 70s when the first Star Wars was coming out Lucas secured all of the merchandising rights to the Star Wars movies.

Just the merchandising profits alone made him filthy rich. Who cares about 7.4 billion.

[horseboy]

Who cares about 7.4 billion.

Everyone.

[Tailgunner]

I actually prefer The Black Hole to Tron and think it has held up better over the years.

[boykster]

My only question is: Did Han shoot first on the re-released DVDs?

YES!

I just checked, its right around 50minutes in.  No lame Greedo shoots first 

[MYX]

but as a story teller he's not so good.

Right or wrong, I've always heard Lucas being heralded as the "master story teller".

Ahhh... But he IS the master story teller. He spun a reel about a great movie that would have us all wallowing around in our own filth just to see it. Many of US bought into the story and stood ridiculous hours in line to get the perfect seat. Then the lights dimmed. The StarWars anthem started and we all got chills and the hairs on our arms stood up. Then the yellow flying text went away and the movie sucked from about then on. So yes, he told us it would be good and you do not need actors to convey a story.

Thank God he did not get his grubby hands on Lord of the Rings. LINK

[Chris G]

Then the yellow flying text went away and the movie sucked from about then on.

I wouldn't go that far.  Star Wars and Empire were great movies and the others definitely had their moments.

[ChadTower]

  Lucas had to add those damn ewoks and go all cuties with the movie. 

I've read in a couple of places that the ewoks were originally going to be fierce and dangerous.  No idea how true it is.

[Chris G]

Did they also write that Jar Jar was originally going to be funny and endearing?   

[MYX]

Then the yellow flying text went away and the movie sucked from about then on.

I wouldn't go that far.  Star Wars and Empire were great movies and the others definitely had their moments.
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Actually I was referring to parts 1,2 and 3.
Parts 4,5,&6 were / are classic. They were camp and I think they knew it. But 1,2,& 3 took them selves far too seriously.

Vader with clutched fist...NOOOOOOOOooooooooo

It was bad even for bad drama.