Bam Bam Bigelow dead

[ChadTower]

I didn't know until today that Bad News Brown was an Olympic medalist in Judo.  That's badass.

[Texasmame]

I didn't know until today that Bad News Brown was an Olympic medalist in Judo.  That's badass.

Yup.  He was one of those legit background guys (like Angle) who went "pro."

I just remember him as nothing special from his WWF days - kinda a mid-carder.  No disrespect meant. 

[ChadTower]

His best pro wrestling days were in Stampede in Calgary, agreed.

[shardian]

Speaking of Angle, his name has come up in the current steroids scandal.

[Texasmame]

The Big Cat

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernie_Ladd

Dead from The Big C.

[paigeoliver]

Don't MOST Pro-Wrestlers take steroids? I don't exactly agree with drug use, but pro-wrestling is more performance art than sport. It isn't like they are actually getting any sort of edge, since management decides who wins the match.

[ChadTower]

No, they don't.  MOST pro wrestlers are guys who make $50/night a couple times a week and sleep 3-4 to a motel room.  They couldn't afford steroids if they wanted to take that path.  They're not the 6-4 275 behemoths you see on TV.

Their edge from juice is with management, actually.  Big guys sell seats and get TV ratings.

[Texasmame]

Their edge from juice is with management, actually.  Big guys sell seats and get TV ratings.

Well, that was certainly the case in the 80's WWF.  Vince pushed no talant monsters thru the roof.  My favorite of the huge stiffs from that era - The Powers of Pain.  Man, Warlord sucked but I envied that guy's build something major as a 15 year old somewhat skinny kid! 

Now, they seem to be focused less on monsters and more on performers.

Not sure if juicing would give you a huge edge in today's wrestling climate.  Sure, you still gotta look at least "in great shape" but not so much "Tony Atlas" buff anymore.

[shardian]

If I remember correctly, the WWF steroids thing went public in the mid-90's. Apparently, Vince McMahon was handing them out like candy. When Hulk Hogan went to WCW, he testified against the WWF.

[ChadTower]

Well, that was certainly the case in the 80's WWF.  Vince pushed no talant monsters thru the roof.  My favorite of the huge stiffs from that era - The Powers of Pain.  Man, Warlord sucked but I envied that guy's build something major as a 15 year old somewhat skinny kid! 

The Powers of Pain were already multi-time NWA World Tag champs when they got to the WWF.  Vince didn't create them or push them beyond where they already were.

Not sure if juicing would give you a huge edge in today's wrestling climate.  Sure, you still gotta look at least "in great shape" but not so much "Tony Atlas" buff anymore.

Look at guys like Chris Masters and Bobby Lashley.  Orton just put on about 20lb of muscle in the last two months.  Batista juices regularly.  A LOT of those guys juice just because it's easier on the road to cycle 3 or so times a year than it is to keep that build year round the hard way.  Not every juicer is 4% bodyfat and 280lb.

Sharidan, Vince won every case the gov't brought against him during those trials.  I'm not saying the guys weren't all juiced but they weren't getting it from Vince.  Hell, Vince himself has been a juicer over the years, very obviously.

[Texasmame]

Well, that was certainly the case in the 80's WWF.  Vince pushed no talant monsters thru the roof.  My favorite of the huge stiffs from that era - The Powers of Pain.  Man, Warlord sucked but I envied that guy's build something major as a 15 year old somewhat skinny kid! 

The Powers of Pain were already multi-time NWA World Tag champs when they got to the WWF.  Vince didn't create them or push them beyond where they already were.

I used to follow the NWA as well, so I was aware of them there.  Just used them as a prime example of the huge stiffs that were dominating the sport at the time in general.  True, Vince didn't start their particular push.

Not sure if juicing would give you a huge edge in today's wrestling climate.  Sure, you still gotta look at least "in great shape" but not so much "Tony Atlas" buff anymore.

Look at guys like Chris Masters and Bobby Lashley.  Orton just put on about 20lb of muscle in the last two months.  Batista juices regularly.  A LOT of those guys juice just because it's easier on the road to cycle 3 or so times a year than it is to keep that build year round the hard way.  Not every juicer is 4% bodyfat and 280lb.

Sharidan, Vince won every case the gov't brought against him during those trials.  I'm not saying the guys weren't all juiced but they weren't getting it from Vince.  Hell, Vince himself has been a juicer over the years, very obviously.

[ChadTower]

You definitely don't get the big unathletic dorks you used to get... except for the INHUMANLY BIG unathletic dorks like Khali.

[horseboy]

You definitely don't get the big unathletic dorks you used to get... except for the INHUMANLY BIG unathletic dorks like Khali.

He is terrible. He makes John Cena look like Ric Flair circa 1985.

[ChadTower]

He's old, too, and won't be around long.

[chopps]

add Arnold Skaaland to that list...   i only remember him as the manager of bob backland but here is a little artical about him from the wrestling observer...
 

Arnold Skaaland passes away
 


by Dave Meltzer

Arnold Skaaland, a fixture on the Northeast wrestling scene dating back to the 1940s, passed away yesterday at the age of 82.

A former part owner of Capital Wrestling Corporation, the parent company of the World Wide Wrestling Federation, Skaaland's public persona during the 70s was as the long-time prelim wrestler who was the public manager of champions Bruno Sammartino and later Bob Backlund. He was also the regular heel manager for Andre the Giant for New Japan Pro Wrestling, where he served the role as Andre's caretaker and Vince McMahon Sr.'s business representative, since McMahon Sr. was Andre's booker.

He promoted wrestling in White Plains and worked the box office and was in charge of taking the receipts from the shows and depositing them during the 60s and 70s, among his other jobs. That job shows the level of trust the other owners would have had in him in such a cut-throat business. We remained working behind the scenes with the company up to the present time.

[Texasmame]

Awww.

Yeah, I only remember him as Backlund's manager.  I can't picture him as a heel manager.

On a related note, I met Backlund once - he lived literally next door my aunt in a condo in Glastonbury, CT briefly while his home was being built.  I was like 13 at the time.  Big thrill.  Nice as could be. 

[ChadTower]

Sherri Martel.   

[Texasmame]

Sherri Martel.   

Good to see this thread again but bad under the circumstances!

How she bite it?

[Texasmame]

Chris Benoit and family.  My first thought was murder/suicide but reports say he wasn't shot to death.  Still could be that, but that would be unusual.  

[ChadTower]

Murder suicide doesn't usually include the child.

He flew home yesterday because of a "family emergency", today he and his family are dead.  I'm thinking he flew home to protect his family and it didn't go so well.

[Texasmame]

Murder suicide doesn't usually include the child.

He flew home yesterday because of a "family emergency", today he and his family are dead.  I'm thinking he flew home to protect his family and it didn't go so well.

As far as including the child - can go either way.  But, yeah, he may have flown home to protect them.  Looks like he should've called the cops, too.   

[ChadTower]

Now reports are indicating he killed his wife and son over the weekend - then flew home sunday to kill himself monday. 

If he did actually kill his wife and son, eff him.

[Texasmame]

I'm hearing SHE killed the son and he flew home, killed her then hung himself.

I'm sure the truth will be out in a week or so.  Either way, very sad.

[ChadTower]

The Police say the kid died after she did.  As much as two days after she did.