Why?

[J_K_M_A_N]

The story

That was my nephew that died. It sounded like the 4 men were looking for a fight. My other nephew was there (his brother) and now he feels like it was his fault or that there was something he could have done.

What the ---fudgesicle--- is wrong with people?? Quit killing other people and just kill yourself. Save everyone else a lot of heartache.

J_K_M_A_N

[JONTHEBOMB]

I'm sorry for your loss.  Violence seems to be going up everywhere in the country.  If this was the case of some drunks looking for a fight, hopefully they will get put behind bars where they belong.

[missioncontrol]

sorry for your loss.... let's hope justice gets served on the guilty party....

[AtomSmasher]

Theres nothing worse then the senseless death of a family member.  I'm sorry for your loss and always remember the good times you had with him.

[J_K_M_A_N]

Updated link with the video story

I really feel bad for his brother. They were best friends. I went and saw him yesterday and he is so full of anger. I worry that he will do something bad. We are going to try and keep a really close eye on him.

What makes things worse is my brother (his dad) was just told he has cancer 1 week ago. He has surgery next week. Also, after being at the hospital all night and going through this, when they got home, their dog had died. It is just unbelievable. It doesn't seem real.

Thanks for letting me get this off my chest. I hope all of the people involved rot in a cell for the rest of their lives. (And I hope they aren't allowed to have soap on a rope.)

J_K_M_A_N

[shardian]

I am sorry for your loss. It's hard to come up with words to console in this situation. I just hope that the brother who is having trouble dealing will find peace, and focus on the positive memories of his brothers life. My prayers will be with your family.

[arcadefever]

  sorry about that... all my prayers to you and your familly ...

[J_K_M_A_N]

Well, the guy pled guilty. (News Story) That is good. My brother and his family at least won't have to listen to all the details during the trial. They will have a court date to hear about what kind of guy he is and then they will have another court date for the sentencing. I believe the judge can go as high as he wants but I am afraid it will end up being less than 15 years. With parole, he will probably be able to get out in 10 or less. I hope it doesn't happen that way but...

My other nephew (the brother) seems to be doing better. I got him into modding xboxes and it seems to take his mind off of things. I just hope he doesn't go back to the anger now that this is kind of starting up again. Hopefully he will be OK during all of this.

Not sure if anyone remembers this but I thought I would post anyway.

J_K_M_A_N

[SithMaster]

Well, the guy pled guilty. (News Story) That is good. My brother and his family at least won't have to listen to all the details during the trial. They will have a court date to hear about what kind of guy he is and then they will have another court date for the sentencing. I believe the judge can go as high as he wants but I am afraid it will end up being less than 15 years. With parole, he will probably be able to get out in 10 or less. I hope it doesn't happen that way but...

My other nephew (the brother) seems to be doing better. I got him into modding xboxes and it seems to take his mind off of things. I just hope he doesn't go back to the anger now that this is kind of starting up again. Hopefully he will be OK during all of this.

Not sure if anyone remembers this but I thought I would post anyway.

J_K_M_A_N

I remember this, sorry for your loss.  I would imagine the judge would sentence around 15 years like you said.

I read the first part of the news story so far and I dont see how stabbing someone in a fight is unintentional. "In return for Andrews' plea before Judge John Hoffman, a count of intentional second-degree murder will be dropped, said prosecutor Wade Kish."  This gets to me.  Its like a reward for saying whether you believed yourself to be guilty.  The courts are so messed up.  I just hope he gets a serious punishment and your other nephew gets better.

[ChadTower]

They often lessen the charges in return for not going to all out trial.  If there were no incentive to plead guilty, who would ever do that?  Pretty much everyone would take their chances at trial if pleading guilty led to the same punishment as being found guilty.

[J_K_M_A_N]

They often lessen the charges in return for not going to all out trial.  If there were no incentive to plead guilty, who would ever do that?  Pretty much everyone would take their chances at trial if pleading guilty led to the same punishment as being found guilty.

That's true but it is also unfortunate. But like I said, at least my brother and his family won't have to go through all of that at the trial. So that is a good thing. It is also possible for the judge to give a longer sentence from what I understand. We can only hope.

J_K_M_A_N

[protokatie]

It is also possible for the judge to give a longer sentence from what I understand. We can only hope.

That would be good, but also look on the "bright" side if he gets a shorter sentence... No matter what, no matter where he goes, after he is let "free" he will still have to answer for what he did. In prison he would be given everything he needs to survive, but when "free" he would have to earn it, and earn it hard. No decent employer will ever hire the guy, and noone who offers a decent apartment or house will rent to him. When he is let out, his life may be even more of a punishment than when he was in prison. The law doesnt dictate this; society does. He will never be able to do what you or I do in normal life, he will have a shadow that will haunt him for the rest of his days. He will be "free", but not free, as he will have opportunities in front of him that he can never ever take advantage of.

So, atleast you know he wont have a good life, for the rest of it. It doesnt undo what he did, but it is something.

I'm not religious or anything, but I hope your cousin is sitting pretty up in heaven, and has more fun stuff to do than those of us stuck on Earth.

[shmokes]

I hate this stuff.  Somebody walked into a Wendy's today in my town and started shooting people point-blank.  What the ---fudgesicle--- is wrong with people.  It's why I don't watch local news.  It makes you afraid of the world.  Actually, violence has been dropping rather dramatically since the early nineties, but you hear about this sort of thing and it just makes you not want to leave the house.

[ark_ader]

I hate this stuff.  Somebody walked into a Wendy's today in my town and started shooting people point-blank.  What the ---fudgesicle--- is wrong with people.  It's why I don't watch local news.  It makes you afraid of the world.  Actually, violence has been dropping rather dramatically since the early nineties, but you hear about this sort of thing and it just makes you not want to leave the house.

The way I see it, is when your number is called thats it.  You could be walking across the road or slip in the bathtub.  When you look at how everything is (in this dicey world) with that perspective it makes you try to live a full life, making every day special, as it could be your last. 

It doesn't help the pain when your loved one checks out early.  You learn to appreciate the time you have, much more dearly when they are alive.

Well, eventually it comes to all of us.  I would prefer a quick exit than a painful delayed one, but thats me.

C'est La Vie!

[J_K_M_A_N]

Sentencing was today...

We don't think it was near enough for what he did. Very tough to be in the court listening to the impact statements. At least this part of it is over. Hopefully my brother and his family can start to move forward.

J_K_M_A_N

[daywane]

 
I share a hart wrenching part of your life.
all i know to say is GOD BE WITH YOU. 
I am so sorry for your loss

[Ummon]

Wow, long time in running.