Wii games to stay away from

[AlanS17]

I really hope someone comes along with a better implementation.  Throwing endless bullseyes is only fun the first 10 or so times.

I only did it once and I was so proud of myself. 

Really?  I suck at real darts, so I figured if I can do it, it's too easy.  Maybe I'll see if I can record a long bullseye run and post it.   

Show off... I hope you put that thing right through the screen.  j/k (sort of)

[Howard_Casto]

wii Darts?! they should have come up with and put that in the upcoming wiiplay (darn!)

Wii play will have wii targets (read duck hunt) which imho is much better anyway. 

[AlanS17]

I'd like to see some sort of party-game compilation devoted to shooting stuff. I've found the absolute control of the pointing to be much more responsive and precise than the relational control of the gyros. And it seems like most games control through those gyros... Plus I'm from Texas and receive a certain sense of satisfaction from blowing stuff up. 

[rampy]

wii Darts?! they should have come up with and put that in the upcoming wiiplay (darn!)

Wii play will have wii targets (read duck hunt) which imho is much better anyway. 

There's a bit of difference in feel and velocity between throwing a dart and shooting a gun (virtually or otherwise).  Dart games always seemed kinda silly to me with the trackball/etc... I just think it's a novel use of the wiimote if it factors in angle of the wiimote and force of motion forward along where you aim the  thing...

Different strokes, n' all I guess...  the target game should be pretty cool, although I'm not that excited about wiiplay's list of games (although with Wii sports the minigame I was stoked about (boxing) I'm not so hot on but really really enjoy tennis -- so who knows?)

rampy

EDIT--> maybe there WILL be WiiDarts afterall? (rumor)

[shmokes]

Rented GT Pro Series.  It's terrible.  I put it in one time for about ten minutes and never put it back in the Wii.  It controls terribly and the graphics are ridiculously bad.  I'm not complaining about it having Gamecube caliber graphics here.  I'm talking about it having Nintendo 64 caliber graphics.  See attached image if you think that I might be exaggerating.

[somunny]

Personally, I'm not a big fan of cel-shading.  I don't really see a wave of support for the Wii driving games.  Guess there's no use in reinventing the wheel, eh? 

[sphetr2]

I'm talking about it having Nintendo 64 caliber graphics. 

You must've had a pretty nice N64...

Actually, the cars look alright to me. But the environment, as you said, looks to be 8-10 years old.

[shmokes]

You must've had a pretty nice N64...

No . . . seriously.  I'm pretty sure you're memory is just not serving you.  Nintendo 64 caliber is not an exaggeration.  Check out the pics below.  Top one is Burnout 2 for the Gamecube and the bottom one is Top Gear Overdrive for N64.  Which do you think comes closer to the ridiculously bad graphics in GT Pro for the Wii?

[tommy]

If you had read any game review of that game (anywhere) you would have found out that game was total garbage.

[shmokes]

Actually I would have, but my friend stopped to rent games.  He asked me what was good and I told him Super Monkey Ball, Raving Rabids, and Madden were all supposed to be good and he came back with Monkey Ball and GT Pro Series.  Funny thing is he doesn't even tend to like racing games, so I don't know what he was doing.  Anyway, yeah, it's very very bad.

[Samstag]

I really hope someone comes along with a better implementation.  Throwing endless bullseyes is only fun the first 10 or so times.

I only did it once and I was so proud of myself. 

Really?  I suck at real darts, so I figured if I can do it, it's too easy.  Maybe I'll see if I can record a long bullseye run and post it.   

Show off... I hope you put that thing right through the screen.  j/k (sort of)

As promised threatened:   




I never could get a perfect score in "Count up", but I got damn close.  My wife played for the first time last night and hit 7 or 8 bullseyes in the first game.

Want me to ask if she gives lessons?   

[MajorLag]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't it have been faster to go for trippple 20s? You'd have finished one throw earlier.

[Samstag]

Doh!  Didn't I say I suck at real darts?   

[rampy]

we should change the name of this thread to the wiidarts thread

Wario Ware will also have a darts game...



although the mechanics of the SMonkeyBall version seem better... that beeping is soo annoying on the WW version...

[AtomSmasher]

Now that I've finished Zelda, I've been playing Excite Truck (the only other Wii game I got for Christmas).  It is a real fun game, but I don't think theres enough content to warrant a purchase.  In just a few days I've beaten every track there is, now I just need to replay them until I get 'S' rank on the tracks in order to unlock reverse map mode.  Its definately a worthy rental though.

[Howard_Casto]

I wanted to chime in about zelda for a second. Now I LOVE twilight princess so don't take this the wrong way, but......


Whoever made that statement about zelda having 60 hours of gameplay was on crack.  I did a lot of sidequest and beat it in just over 40 hours.  Mind you that is alot, but that makes the game about the size of wind waker, instead of being the largest zelda game yet. 

I think the problem is that developers thought you'd have to get all 20 hearts to beat some of the bosses, and while this is probably true on the gamecube version it definately isn't on the wii.  Most of the boss battles require the use of secondary weapons, which are controlled via pointing the wiimote and thus it makes it rather easy to kill most bosses without even losing an entire heart of health.  I can imagine it'd be a lot harder using hte analog stick on the cg though. 

So long story short zelda is great, but don't expect it to take a long time to beat.  Because it is a zelda game, you pretty much have to play at least 3 hours at a time (you can't save your current position, just your current items, at least not without some trickery) and even though I played more than that I beat it in just over a week while doing some of the more lengthy side-quests like getting the magic armor and finding poe souls. 

The game (not the side quests, just the main story) is probly around 30-35 hours. 

[rampy]

isn't saving your position (at least in the dungeons) what the little ooocco bird thing is about? 

and the stupid camera angle crap is making the lava dungeon way harder than it needs to be. (or rather stupidly fustrating... it's not hard, it's just annoying - initially)

[AtomSmasher]

Whoever made that statement about zelda having 60 hours of gameplay was on crack.  I did a lot of sidequest and beat it in just over 40 hours.  Mind you that is alot, but that makes the game about the size of wind waker, instead of being the largest zelda game yet. 

I mentioned this in another thread a few days ago, but it also took me around 40 hours to beat the game.  As you mentioned, if I had completed all the side quests, gotten all the poes and hearts, then it probably would of taken maybe 10 hours longer, but there was really no reason to do that.  Once I unlocked all the fairy's, I no longer had to worry about dieing.  Once I unlocked them I was always carrying around 2 bottled fairys (they resurrect you with 8 hearts when you die) and a bottle of fairy tears (full heal plus makes you more powerful for a while), so it took a lot to kill me.

It was a great game though.

[tommy]

You can't really argue a time limit to beat the game when it's different for all users. I'm only at the ice dungeon at about 20 hours, I'm not in a big rush and take time to enjoy all the sights along the way.

Also, i do not need to be running through the game just for the sake of it, mostly because i can't see myself playing the game after it's all over. Pace yourself!!

[AtomSmasher]

You can't really argue a time limit to beat the game when it's different for all users. I'm only at the ice dungeon at about 20 hours, I'm not in a big rush and take time to enjoy all the sights along the way.

Also, i do not need to be running through the game just for the sake of it, mostly because i can't see myself playing the game after it's all over. Pace yourself!!

I think thats right around where I was at 20 hours in.  Your on track to beat the game in around 40 hours, so you better slow down even more.

[Howard_Casto]

I don't think anyone was arguing over the time, it's just that it is billed as a 60+ hour game and trust me, you'd have to go reaaaaaaaaally slow and do every single solitary side quest to even near 60 hours. 


Btw I didn't even bother with unlocking the fairys because I seldom died.  When I did die it wasn't because of enemies, rather it was me falling off a cliff due to some of the wonkier camera angles. 

I'd like to complain about the ending a little.   I won't give anything away but I'm convinced that link is gay now (not that there's anything wrong with that) there are far to many pretty girls in the game for him to not at least kiss one of them.  All the boy ever does is give that goofy grin.

[AtomSmasher]

Btw I didn't even bother with unlocking the fairys because I seldom died.  When I did die it wasn't because of enemies, rather it was me falling off a cliff due to some of the wonkier camera angles. 

Same here, I don't think I ever actually used the fairies after I unlocked them, but having a constant supply of fairies tears that gave a power boost was definately useful.  I just randomly came across the cavern of trials (or whatever it was called) later in the game, which let me beat it completely in one shot and unlock all the fairies.

[SithMaster]

All the boy ever does is give that goofy grin.

Because he has no game, yet.  The next sequel will feature link trying to get laid.

How can camera angles still be a problem in nintendo made games after they got it so right with mario 64?

[AlanS17]

All the boy ever does is give that goofy grin.

Because he has no game, yet.  The next sequel will feature link trying to get laid.

How can camera angles still be a problem in nintendo made games after they got it so right with mario 64?

I don't know if it's an issue in the GC version, but it's definitely an issue in the Wii version. There's no second analog stick to control camera angle. You kind of have to take it as they give it to you.

Your only recourse is to do a first-person zoom. When you come out of it, the camera has fixed itself behind Link and you will be viewing the same direction he's actually facing. That's how I'm getting through the lava dungeon right now. I couldn't imagine getting through it any other way.

I noticed this as a short-coming the first time I demo'ed it at GameStop. Oh well. It's really my only complaint thus far. On a side note, the strategy guide seriously sucks. I've been using guides for various games for 15 years and this is easily the worst I've ever used. I'm about to just abandon it completely. (P.S. That statement is not an invitation to start the whole pro/con strategy guide discussion again).

[tommy]

I never really found the camera to be a problem, i think it only seems like a problem because the dungeons are new to us and we really have no idea where we are going to start with.

I find the free look camera is more than enough to find my way and look around in areas i have no idea where to start moving to.

Maybe when some of you get used to the controles and progress more into the game it will be second nature to you.

I don't think you really get used to the controles till about half way through anyway. Not that it's flawed though.

That's how i found it to be.

[Howard_Casto]

I've already beat it man, the camera angles are still an issue. 


And it's not the camera controls that bother me... I can tap z and realign myself quickly, the problem is, like many 3d games the camera changes in mid jump/run.  So you can be perfectly lined up for a jump 5 feet away, and when you get to it the camera suddenly pans left, you are mis aligned and you jump into a pit. 

It's sad that in this day and age the camera contol is still on the n64 level.



Btw

complaint #2 about smb...  It has a huge glitch in it.  You know the green double rail tracks you run across occasionally?  If you are baby 50% of the time you can fall right through the track when trying to jump on!  This wouldn't be a problem except now you are trapped between the floor and the track and you have to restart. 

compalint # 3  about smb.... This isn't in the manual, but when stopped the wii ir sensor is used to "look" around.  This causes all kinds of headaches when trying to wait paintently for a platform to return as it drifts horribly, just like in the mini games.  Trying to compensate causes you to tilt the remote and you go rolling off the edge. 

[tommy]

You can't really argue a time limit to beat the game when it's different for all users. I'm only at the ice dungeon at about 20 hours, I'm not in a big rush and take time to enjoy all the sights along the way.

Also, i do not need to be running through the game just for the sake of it, mostly because i can't see myself playing the game after it's all over. Pace yourself!!

I think thats right around where I was at 20 hours in.  Your on track to beat the game in around 40 hours, so you better slow down even more.

Actually after rechecking my time, i'm at 29 hours at that point.

[tommy]

Double posted