Can you play punchout in a jamma cab?

[kjoel0123]

Anyone ever try or can you play punchout in a jamma cabinet with a nintendo jamma adadpter- maybe use a dk or a popeye jamma adapter?
Thanks

[romperwomb]

Board member MaximumRecoil was able to build a Punch-Out Jamma adapter.  He PM'd me the details, hope he dosn't mind if I repost.

About the JAMMA adapter. I ordered two parts from jammaboards.com:

JAMMA Fingerboard

And:

56 Pin Card Edge Connector (3.96mm/.156 pitch)

The JAMMA fingerboard slides into the JAMMA harness' edge connector. The blue 56 pin card edge connector slides onto the edge of your Punch-Out board set. Now, before you do that you need to make the proper connections between the two parts with some wire and solder. I used some 22 gauge black stranded wire from Radio Shack. I would have rather used color-coded wire but they didn't have any. If I were to do it again I would order some stuff from Bob Roberts first, such as a selection of different colored wire and a Molex-type 56 pin card edge connector rather than the solder eyelet blue style that I got from jammaboards.com. The labeled JAMMA fingerboard from jammaboards.com is very nice though, far more convenient than the unlabeled ones that most places (including Bob Roberts) sells.

About the two different types of 56 pin edge connectors, there is the blue solder eyelet style like I ordered and they certainly work but soldering all those connections to the eyelets is tedious. Then there is the black Molex-type, the same kind that is already on your JAMMA harness, where the wires have crimp or solder on connectors that slide and lock into place from the back of the connector. I think that would be a nicer solution. Bob Roberts sells both types. For the black Molex-type, go here and scroll down to the category Molex edge connector housings with full compliment of split pins.. The correct one is the one labeled 28/56 Jamma for $6. If you scroll down a little more he also has the same blue solder eyelet type that jammaboards.com sells labeled 28/56 SE EC Jamma for $3.25 if you are a big fan of soldering.

Anyway, once you have a 56 pin card edge connector and a labeled JAMMA fingerboard, the rest is fairly easy, you just look at your pinout in your Punch-Out manual and wire the two parts together accordingly. For example, pin 11 on the Punch-Out board is "ground", so you connect one end of a small length of wire to pin 11 on the 56 pin card edge connector that will be going onto your Punch-Out board and then solder the other end into one of the holes on the JAMMA fingerboard labeled "ground". Another example; pin 40 on your Punch-Out board is "up", so connect pin 40 of the card edge connector to the hole labeled "P1-U" (Player 1 - UP) in the controller section on the JAMMA fingerboard.

Now, some of the stuff you won't need to connect, namely +24V and Counter 1 (your coin counter) which uses +24V. This is because a standard switching power supply like is in a JAMMA machine does not have +24V, and since it is only for the coin counter, it is no big deal. Also, you won't be hooking up your video signals (pins 1 through 10 on your Punch-Out board set) or your audio through the JAMMA harness. Because of the unique nature of the dual monitor, dual audio amplifier, dual mono setup of a Punch-Out machine, your JAMMA harness won't accomodate it. So with the video and audio, you wire direct from the 56 pin card edge connector to the monitors and the amplifiers. The audio took me a little while to figure out what was going on in the schematics but then it clicked (with help from this thread).

When I finished making the adapter and plugged it all in (took about 12 hours for everything; most of which was soldering to those solder eyelets in the blue card edge connector), it fired up properly with sound and video on the first shot.

[ChadTower]

Not easily.  Punchout has two monitors.

[kjoel0123]

Thanks romperwomb for the info:

Instead of using 2 monitors cant I use just 1  and eliminate the other monitor?

If so I will make the jamma adapter and get to work on it ASAP, thanks again guys

[ChadTower]

Instead of using 2 monitors cant I use just 1  and eliminate the other monitor?

Then you'd only have half the game.  It would be easier to put Mike Tyson's Punchout in there.

[MaximRecoil]

You'll run into a couple of issues trying to play Punch-Out in a single monitor JAMMA cabinet. When I made a JAMMA adaptor for PO, I had the advantage that the cabinet wired for JAMMA was an actual PO cabinet that had been converted to JAMMA wiring before I got it, but it still had both Nintendo/Sanyo monitors and both sound amps which are mounted to those monitors. I only did it as an interim solution until I could find a real PO wiring harness, which I found about a month later.

The issues you will have are:

1. With only one monitor, while you can play the game, you won't be able to see your score, time limit or the health meters for yourself or your opponent.

2. Unless you have a Nintendo monitor in your JAMMA cabinet, you would have to rig something up to get sound, because the Punch-Out boardset has no integrated amp. Even if you have a Nintendo monitor in your cabinet, you would still need to make a custom shielded audio cable with a connector that will interface with the Nintendo/Sanyo sound amp.

[Dav]

I've done it on a PC10 which has a similar pinout.  What I did was put an analog switch (4066) on the video output and wire it to jamma button 3, then when I wanted the top screen I just pushed the button.  Not sure how useful that would be on a punchout though.

[kjoel0123]

So basically you can use a PC10 board instead with a single monitor? I hate the dual monitors.

[MaximRecoil]

So basically you can use a PC10 board instead with a single monitor? I hate the dual monitors.

They made a single monitor version of the Play-Choice boardset too. However, the closest you will get to Punch-Out with a PC-10 is Mike Tyson's Punch-Out, which is more like a spinoff of arcade Punch-Out than a true port.

Another option is a PC running MAME + a J-Pac. If you have a vertical monitor or a large horizontal monitor, the display won't be too bad, and you won't lose the top monitor's display because MAME combines the two screens in PO into a single tall display.

[davieboynj]

super puchout for the SNES was the best anyways...  IMHO, anyways