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Re: Shameless begging
« Reply #200 on: September 23, 2006, 01:18:28 pm »
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Re: Shameless begging
« Reply #201 on: September 23, 2006, 02:02:34 pm »

Someone needs to invade that guy in the beret.

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Re: Shameless begging
« Reply #202 on: September 23, 2006, 05:10:13 pm »
More girly pics required.

You gotta give the people what they want shmokes.

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Re: Shameless begging
« Reply #203 on: September 23, 2006, 08:37:55 pm »

He looks pretty girly there already.

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Re: Shameless begging
« Reply #204 on: September 23, 2006, 11:45:38 pm »
I'm the one taking the picture.   :-*
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Re: Shameless begging
« Reply #205 on: September 24, 2006, 05:08:45 am »
I'm not sure if it isn't all a joke ($4000 for learning french?), but I decided to make a small contribution of my own. Hope you can accept paypal from a credit card though.
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Re: Shameless begging
« Reply #206 on: September 24, 2006, 03:37:29 pm »
Thanks Saint and patrickl.  It's more than generous.

And by the way, my wife has always wondered what in the hell was wrong with me when it came to my participation in this community, but she's done a complete 180 thanks to the generosity that's come from you guys.  She says to tell you guys she loves you.  Maybe you'll get your wish yet Bones.  :)
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Re: Shameless begging
« Reply #207 on: September 24, 2006, 04:21:47 pm »
Really, it's not much that I ask.

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Re: Shameless begging
« Reply #208 on: September 24, 2006, 04:25:30 pm »
You guys look very young?  How old are you?

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Re: Shameless begging
« Reply #209 on: September 24, 2006, 04:36:26 pm »
One other guy and me are 28.  Most of us are about 24.
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Re: Shameless begging
« Reply #210 on: September 24, 2006, 07:31:11 pm »
Okay . . . I at least got permission for a couple of Halloween pics.  She's not Hellboy . . . that's me  :)
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Re: Shameless begging
« Reply #211 on: September 25, 2006, 12:55:39 pm »
Heelllooooooooooooooooooooo nurse!

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Re: Shameless begging
« Reply #212 on: September 25, 2006, 02:40:30 pm »
Sheesh! The man is trying to get an education. If you don't like what he's doing don't give him any money. Anyone here walked a mile in his shoes? Anyone been him for a week? I haven't, so I think I'll withhold judgement on his choices.
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Re: Shameless begging
« Reply #213 on: September 25, 2006, 02:45:13 pm »
Sheesh! The man is trying to get an education. If you don't like what he's doing don't give him any money. Anyone here walked a mile in his shoes? Anyone been him for a week? I haven't, so I think I'll withhold judgement on his choices.

I suspect a lot of us have been college students and new fathers/husbands.

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Re: Shameless begging
« Reply #214 on: September 25, 2006, 04:06:18 pm »
And by the way, my wife has always wondered what in the hell was wrong with me when it came to my participation in this community, but she's done a complete 180 thanks to the generosity that's come from you guys.  She says to tell you guys she loves you.  Maybe you'll get your wish yet Bones.  :)

Yeah, it involved MONEY. Now that's something any woman can Understand. OH, there's money involved....

What about a tee shirt sales? 

How about "SEND ME TO FRANCE" on the front and on the back "DONATE"


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Re: Shameless begging
« Reply #215 on: September 25, 2006, 04:11:05 pm »

He would do better with putting that on a speedo. 

And changing it to "$5 to put my pants on".

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Re: Shameless begging
« Reply #216 on: September 25, 2006, 04:21:50 pm »
$19!

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Re: Shameless begging
« Reply #217 on: September 25, 2006, 05:39:04 pm »
Anyone here walked a mile in his shoes?

Yes, but he wears size 6 and now my feet hurt.  :angry:

Anyone been him for a week?

Actually, I was cleaning my office at work, and I found this little door behind a filing cabinet. I went in and boom... I was Shmokes. I stayed in there for like a week until someone else went in and then it dumped me on the side of the freeway. It was weird.

BTW Shmokes who were those 5 leatherclad dudes that came over and said "It's Wednesday, I hope you're ready to waddle?"


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Re: Shameless begging
« Reply #218 on: September 25, 2006, 06:52:34 pm »
I don't know their names, but I'll tell you I don't look forward to Wednesdays.

And hey, thanks JollyRogers!  I appreciate it.  I hope I can return the favors to you all at one point.
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Re: Shameless begging
« Reply #219 on: September 25, 2006, 08:10:22 pm »


Actually, I was cleaning my office at work, and I found this little door behind a filing cabinet. I went in and boom... I was Shmokes. I stayed in there for like a week until someone else went in and then it dumped me on the side of the freeway. It was weird.

BTW Shmokes who were those 5 leatherclad dudes that came over and said "It's Wednesday, I hope you're ready to waddle?"

Hysterical. Thanks, I can always use a good chuckle.
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Re: Shameless begging
« Reply #220 on: September 25, 2006, 09:43:32 pm »
Anyone been him for a week?

Actually, I was cleaning my office at work, and I found this little door behind a filing cabinet. I went in and boom... I was Shmokes. I stayed in there for like a week until someone else went in and then it dumped me on the side of the freeway. It was weird.


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« Reply #221 on: September 26, 2006, 12:40:42 am »
It's clearly nothing at all like that.
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Re: Shameless begging
« Reply #222 on: September 26, 2006, 09:59:40 am »
I like the international angle and the honesty. Probably makes me a sucker!

I'll throw something your way now, hope it all works out.

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Re: Shameless begging
« Reply #223 on: September 26, 2006, 10:19:52 am »
Thanks Silver, both for the donation and the compliment.  Y'all have been incredibly generous.
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« Reply #224 on: September 26, 2006, 05:15:52 pm »
I can't say that I agree with you on most any subject, but I respect the way you've handled yourself in this endeavor. Maybe you'll fall so in love with France that you won't want to come back :P ;D Either way, enjoy learning french-speak.

Tossed you a little something at Paypal.

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« Reply #225 on: September 26, 2006, 06:11:54 pm »
Thanks a lot nostrebor.  I have to say,  Best.  Street Name.  Ever.
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« Reply #226 on: September 26, 2006, 08:11:38 pm »
Heelllooooooooooooooooooooo nurse!

Missed that earlier.  Stacy says thanks.
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« Reply #227 on: September 26, 2006, 09:14:35 pm »
Okay, Bones.  FWIW, my wife says that if donations reach $1000 every donor who is interested can have cheesecake pictures that would be sent to post hell in the EE forum.  Except Fredster.

Current total is $195


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« Reply #228 on: September 26, 2006, 10:09:42 pm »
So.....what're we gonna name the thread?  BYOAC-house, or BYOAC-boy?  I'd have felt less like I was sending you something for the purpose of pimping your wife out.  With her consent, of course, but it doesn't make it any less unsavory. 
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« Reply #229 on: September 26, 2006, 11:22:50 pm »
Well, the amount was deliberately set impossibly high -- and high enough that if by some miracle BYOAC were to actually come through with those kind of numbers my wife and I feel like we'd be getting one helluva bargain.  We're not especially modest people when it comes to nudity.  Hell, I've modeled for my univerity's art department "undraped" for just $14 an hour.  And, FWIW, the offer was only extended to every donor "who is interested".

However, if the general consensus is that it is tasteless, or if it's deemed inappropriate for the board, I'll toss the post. 
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Re: Shameless begging
« Reply #230 on: September 26, 2006, 11:33:27 pm »
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  Please answer the following Questions to allow me to determine if I should donate:

1. Do you feel French culture is superior to American Culture?Why?
2. Do you feel Lawyers mostly contribute positively to society?
3. Who paid for you to be on Paternity leave?(most men don't do this because they have to support their family, 2 kids and one on the way)
4. Will your daughter become bilingual if you don't go to France if it is so important?

Just trying to see what my money will be buying. Thanks

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« Reply #231 on: September 26, 2006, 11:53:51 pm »
Shmokes

  Please answer the following Questions to allow me to determine if I should donate:

1. Do you feel French culture is superior to American Culture?Why?
2. Do you feel Lawyers mostly contribute positively to society?
3. Who paid for you to be on Paternity leave?(most men don't do this because they have to support their family, 2 kids and one on the way)
4. Will your daughter become bilingual if you don't go to France if it is so important?

Just trying to see what my money will be buying. Thanks

Shmokes, I'm not certain, but I get the feeling there's an agenda based on the questions asked ;)
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« Reply #232 on: September 27, 2006, 12:30:07 am »
Drew,

     My agenda is simply to see what makes Shmokes tick.  I am obviously on the other end of the political spectrum but that being said, I truly believe in Shmokes right to his opinion.  As another person has already said, he has handled himself extremely respectably thus far in his responses.  My questions are simply to determine if my first impression of Shmokes is correct.  It appears that he is attempting to become a liberal elitist, e.g. Study in France Please send me, My daughter needs to be bilingual and sending me to France will allow this, Becoming a Lawyer, Paternity leave, Its all about Him, etc.  If his answers seem to lead to this end than it is a waste of my money.  If he answers thoughtfully and honestly, you might be surprised at my willingness to donate.

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Re: Shameless begging
« Reply #233 on: September 27, 2006, 01:35:16 am »
Okay, guys, this one's going to be long.  Not that you need my permission, but feel free to skip it.

1. Do you feel French culture is superior to American Culture?Why?

Honestly, I don't know nearly enough about French culture to answer that question, but I would tend to answer that as a negative, by default.  Don't get me wrong, I truly believe that some cultures are superior to others.  Many people, often in the name of political correctness, insist that various cultures are merely different but one cannot be better than another because value systems are different from culture to culture so they cannot be measured on an objective scale.  This is probably true to some extent, but I believe that there are some factors that can be measured.  Rousseau said, "Man is born free, and everywhere is in chains."  I think that freedom is better than servitude and a culture without slavery is better, at least in that respect, than a culture with it.  Many things fall into similar categories, such as universal suffrage, equal protection, free speech, no female genetilia mutilation, freedom from warrantless searches, etc.

With all that said, the differences between French and American culture are not so pronounced as slavery.  I think probably no other country beats America in ridiculous self-confidence and entreprenurial spirit.  I don't think this is merely a product of our current position as the most powerful country in the world, militarily and economically.  I think this is something that's built into the American psyche and dates back to America's earliest days.  I guess a lot of what I'm talking about is the belief in the American Dream.  We also have the greatest, and longest lasting constitution in the world, that sets the standard that almost all others (constitutional goverments, that is) strive to emulate.

France, on the other hand, has a much healthier attitude about sexuality than the United States, in my opinion.  The French would have found the presumably accidental baring of Janet Jackson's breast as comical, where Americans called for blood.  Just like I believe that the Catholic Church's draconian position on the celebacy of priests leads to high rates of sexual deviancy, I think America's insistance on turning sexuality into a taboo creates sexual deviancy.  Our numbers on rape, child molestation and other sex crimes compared to most other countries would at least tend to back this up, if not actually confirm my theory as the cause of our high rates.

I think French cuisine is clearly superior to American cuisine, while American productivity outstrips France.  I think America has problems with arrogance, which would probably put it in an unfavorable light when compared with any country besides France.  I love that tuition at the most prestigious university in France is approximately $150 a year because their higher education system is socialized (unlike America where education is only socialized K through high school), because it ensures that the best, brightest, most qualified students are admitted, rather than those with the richest parents.  But I don't know enough about France to say whether I believe their line separating socialism from capitalism is drawn in the correct place or if it leans too much toward socialism.  (Keep in mind, everyone, that we are no stranger to socialism -- think of lower education, police departments, fire departments.  Some programs would simply not work well under pure capitalism)

So, basically, I just can't say.  And the cultures are really much more alike than different anyway -- both being judeo-christian, western, first-world countries.  Most likely it would be impossible to make a convincing case that either was better overall, so I'll just let the fact that I am personally an American and so hope for America's success over everyone else's, tip the scales in America's favor.

I'll try to keep my other answers much shorter.

2. Do you feel Lawyers mostly contribute positively to society?

This is kind of a difficult question to answer.  I believe that lawyers are at the very least an absolutely necessary evil.  We are a nation of laws, and few people want that to change.  Our laws are also necessarily complex which makes it necessary to have people who specialize in the law.  Lawyers protect individuals from a society that collectively has the power to destroy them in a number of ways including confiscating property, incarcerating them and putting them to death.  The same goes for business lawers who protect people and businesses from entering into ill-advised contracts out of an ignorance in contract law.  And the same VERY often goes for the lawers who do the suing.  Corporations and governments are extremely powerful.  Individuals are no match for them.  Rent the movie North Country, or take a look at Brown v. Board of Education.  When the powerful abuse their position to exploit the weak, lawers are often the only tool the weak have.  Like the police, lawers are easy to hate until you need one. 

I do think our legal system is broken in many ways, though.

3. Who paid for you to be on Paternity leave?(most men don't do this because they have to support their family, 2 kids and one on the way)

I paid for it.  I'm an employee of the state and earn 10 hours of paid vacation leave every month.  I've had my current job for seven years this October and at the time of my daughter's birth had about 300 hours of paid leave available between vacation and comp time (which I get for working overtime and works just like vacation leave).  So I continued getting my regular checks while I was gone.  Incredibly fortunate.

4. Will your daughter become bilingual if you don't go to France if it is so important?

That is certainly my intention regardless, though it'll be much more difficult as French is not spoken in my home; my wife doesn't speak any French.  I've already started reading Roald Dahl to Maddy in French (also for my own practice).  My sister-in-law is from Mexico City and my two nieces have been bi-lingual as long as they've been able to talk.  It kills me to look at the language abilities that those two little girls have, having expended virtually no extra effort, compared with my limited French that I have worked ---my bottom--- off for over the last four years.  If it's at all within your power I think you should do everything you can to give your kid multiple languages early-on, cos god knows picking it up later in life is one of the most difficult tasks you will ever face.




In closing, I'd ask that if you want to debate anything I've said in questions 1 & 2 that you copy and past this into a new thread in the politics forum.  I don't want this thread geetting moved over there by an admin due to it turning political.
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Re: Shameless begging
« Reply #234 on: September 27, 2006, 02:17:42 am »
Drew,

     My agenda is simply to see what makes Shmokes tick.  I am obviously on the other end of the political spectrum but that being said, I truly believe in Shmokes right to his opinion.  As another person has already said, he has handled himself extremely respectably thus far in his responses.  My questions are simply to determine if my first impression of Shmokes is correct.  It appears that he is attempting to become a liberal elitist, e.g. Study in France Please send me, My daughter needs to be bilingual and sending me to France will allow this, Becoming a Lawyer, Paternity leave, Its all about Him, etc.  If his answers seem to lead to this end than it is a waste of my money.  If he answers thoughtfully and honestly, you might be surprised at my willingness to donate.

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Re: Shameless begging
« Reply #235 on: September 27, 2006, 09:25:08 am »
Okay, Bones.  FWIW, my wife says that if donations reach $1000 every donor who is blah blah blah  yakkatta yakkatta..............
Lets cut the crap dude.

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Re: Shameless begging
« Reply #236 on: September 27, 2006, 09:44:41 am »
Hey . . . none of that.
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Re: Shameless begging
« Reply #237 on: September 27, 2006, 09:47:18 am »

I.E. - "contact her directly for information"

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Re: Shameless begging
« Reply #238 on: September 27, 2006, 09:56:45 am »
i.e., don't be an ---uvula---.
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Re: Shameless begging
« Reply #239 on: September 27, 2006, 09:58:36 am »

Rather, pay for one!